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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 89	Posted - 2014.08.24 08:07:00 - [31] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Well duh no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
taxi bastard uptown456 220	Posted - 2014.08.24 08:16:00 - [32] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: 500k-700k in isk asset that shoot kisses and drive around the field to be instaganked by rifles. It really is pathetic how people with no turret game, Who don't even deserve to touch the steering wheel of a single dropship or tank, With no sp in vehicles, Never had their wallet kick them in the balls (If they had any), Never massacred dropsuits with a large rail, Never flew a dropship for more then 5 minutes without exploding, Who never saw the sexy red glow of a cannon turret, Who never aimed a turret through the DUST of swarm fire, forges, and grenades Who never kissed their ads or tank goodnight after a long day of not dying and made scrambled eggs in the morning for it, Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. i fear the OP is using front line forum warrior fits in PC match after just graduating from academy. my advice would be to biomass yourself and hone your trolling skills before you leave acadamy and at least unlock a basic trolling suit.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3361	Posted - 2014.08.24 08:52:00 - [33] - Quote What most people are reffering to here in response to your statement is a 'slippery slope'. You afterall here to win a game, so sure you may give a few mild buffs that might be needed (personally I think a fitting power buff is with reasonable limits). But tankers will, slowly but surely, suggest increasingly powerful buffs and after a period of time the buffs stack up and you suddenly have tanks rolling round with 10,000 and 50% passive damage resistance to AV weaponry. In order to achieve balance, the opinion of more than he who pulls the trigger is required. Every person be they victim or perpetrator has a right ot give their opinion and back it up with reasonable evidence. You'll never hear a RR user admit he has too much damage for his range You'll never hear an ScR user admit his ROF is too high You'll never hear a BCR user admit his damage profile is unbalanced Your attitude however from your OP, also goes to show why shouldn't listen just to tankers, your attitude towards non-pilot players is worse tha Spkr and Taki. If you wish to truly balance your playstyle you need input from the playstyles that are both countered by it amd counter to it. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1115	Posted - 2014.08.24 12:17:00 - [34] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: . Swarms should not lock onto my vehicles because lockons take 0 skill and I totally would not be whining about them if they were dumbfire and killed me anyways like forges (which should also be nerfed) If you do not have 20m+ sp in vehicle skills your opinion is irrelevant and you deserve to be stomped by me ^^^ Your joking right ? Swarms take " no skill " ??? Surely your joking , right ? How many players have 20 million SP's ..??.. and even more so have that much in vehicles ??? You see after FF .. many left the game , terminated their main character and just stopped playing . Maybe they came back and started over , maybe CCP was nice enough to allow them access to their previous character but a lot of players just don't have the SP's of those who previously played . Vehicles were broken even after the changes and is still a " work in progress " , so only the elite of the community should have a voice ??? I have SP's in anti-vehicle and vehicles as well . CCP should be able to tell who's ... who by now , so they should know when someone is speaking from experience and when someone has their personal agenda in order and they are trying to kill a role or mechanic in game . CCP should ask more questions of those who make blanket statements , much like you just did . That's their fault and the fault of those who just sit by and watch their role or an item that they use get made useless by the skill less whiners in the community . Every voice should be considered , should they be listened to ..??... NO . Many in the community , just don't want to see anyone have any fun and only want what they choose to do to stand out and that's just the truth . Those are the players who should be pointed out and exposed . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 1008	Posted - 2014.08.24 13:09:00 - [35] - Quote I agree. This should also go for AV. tankers should have no input on it what-so-ever. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 818	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:25:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: If Vehicle Pilots were the only ones who had influence over how vehicles are balanced, the vehicles would become insanely overpowered and AV weapons would become non-factors against them, due to a large amount of Pilots that feel as if AV weapons should be non-factors against them. Source: Uprising 1.7 - Hotfix Bravo If only AV users had influence, how would AV be balanced? You don't know jack about vehicles. All you give a sht about is your swarms and how they can't kill my shield tanked Python in two volleys. The only time you ever pull out your vehicle is when versing fresh out the academy newbs and still probably get your ass handed to you by militia swarms or crash into buildings. Your two months of experience in piloting is no where near as many of the real vehicle users. I have proto swarms and have Proto forgegun. I have no trouble at all taking out any vehicle. 3 shots for my ishukone will anything dead. 3 swarms from my wiki swarm launcher and It sends the tanks and dropships flying away with enough health to a point where if I had a sniper I could kill them. Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 342	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:29:00 - [37] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Only people who do both, because otherwise we just get the "It killed me, so it's OP! even though I was running around in the open with no av to back me up" arguement. Doesn't take that much to bring in a cheap vehicle with a militia turret & still have a chance vs other more expensive vehicles, I do it occasionally and well, sometimes tanks run in fear of my Soma with basic missile turret (yeah I know it's not militia and requires points, but god damn rails/blasters are boring & much easier to use.)
Soulja Ghostface 2641	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:54:00 - [38] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Only people who do both, because otherwise we just get the "It killed me, so it's OP! even though I was running around in the open with no av to back me up" arguement. Doesn't take that much to bring in a cheap vehicle with a militia turret & still have a chance vs other more expensive vehicles, I do it occasionally and well, sometimes tanks run in fear of my Soma with basic missile turret (yeah I know it's not militia and requires points, but god damn rails/blasters are boring & much easier to use.) Vehicles wizards give feedback Av wizards gives feedback Cpm and devs proccess feedback and create patch. Is this too complex for you to understand? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 960	Posted - 2014.08.24 15:50:00 - [39] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Yes op is absolutely right My missile tank should have a 10 meter splash radius and do 1000 splash damage per missile As an occasional tank driver I know whats best for you foot plebs. You input is not necessary or desired, and is wrong anyways. also swarms should not lock onto my vehicles because lockons take 0 skill and I totally would not be whining about them if they were dumbfire and killed me anyways like forges (which should also be nerfed) If you do not have 20m+ sp in vehicle skills your opinion is irrelevant and you deserve to be stomped by me Umm... hmm... so, since infantry has all the say in how vehicles should be, can we vehicle pilots have all the say in how infantry should be? You see how stupid that is? If you have no experience in said role, I don't see why you should have any say in how it should be. I'm vehicle pilot and AV player and I find AV role to be ridiculously easy and OP, but I still shamelessly murder vehicles and I don't think AV needs any buff or nerf. Maybe buff, like 100% more dmg to all AV weaponry. I'm being serious, most AV players don't know what the hell they are doing so they need this aid. And then those who are already good at AV wouldn't be any more of a threat because they can already do their job just fine.
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 15:58:00 - [40] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: MrShooter01 wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Yes op is absolutely right My missile tank should have a 10 meter splash radius and do 1000 splash damage per missile As an occasional tank driver I know whats best for you foot plebs. You input is not necessary or desired, and is wrong anyways. also swarms should not lock onto my vehicles because lockons take 0 skill and I totally would not be whining about them if they were dumbfire and killed me anyways like forges (which should also be nerfed) If you do not have 20m+ sp in vehicle skills your opinion is irrelevant and you deserve to be stomped by me Umm... hmm... so, since infantry has all the say in how vehicles should be, can we vehicle pilots have all the say in how infantry should be? You see how stupid that is? If you have no experience in said role, I don't see why you should have any say in how it should be. I'm vehicle pilot and AV player and I find AV role to be ridiculously easy and OP, but I still shamelessly murder vehicles and I don't think AV needs any buff or nerf. Maybe buff, like 100% more dmg to all AV weaponry. I'm being serious, most AV players don't know what the hell they are doing so they need this aid. And then those who are already good at AV wouldn't be any more of a threat because they can already do their job just fine. Have fun getting the cpm to voice this for you. You are listened to, But have no INFLUENECES on changes as it should be. Swarms buffed by 100% lol Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot

Atiim 11611	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:15:00 - [41] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Atiim wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Exactly, When dealing with tanks...Listen to the real tankers When dealing with ads...Listen to the real ads piilots When dealing with amarr logi... Listen to the real amarr logis When dealing with etc. ...Listen to the real etc. players I wholeheartedly agree. Now for my requests: Increase Swarm Launcher Lock range to 2000m (same range as the old Missile Installation AI). Increase Swarm Launcher Damage to 825/855/875HP per Missile. Increase Swarm Launcher Clip Size to 12 rounds (9 at the Militia tier). Increase Swarm Launcher Air Speed to 250m/s. Decrease Swarm Launcher Lock Time to 0.25s (.5s on Specialist Variants) We're only listening to the "real" Swarmers, so you have no say in this idea's implementation. Also. If you can read, you will notice you do not fall in this criteria I've read your posts within this thread, and your logic is that only users of an Item should be allowed to determine how said item is balanced, so with me being a dedicated SL user, I do meet this criteria. Saying otherwise is a double-standard. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3003	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:17:00 - [42] - Quote It's the apocalypse I actually agree with what Atiim has to say Tanker/Logi/Assault
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 342	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:23:00 - [43] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Only people who do both, because otherwise we just get the "It killed me, so it's OP! even though I was running around in the open with no av to back me up" arguement. Doesn't take that much to bring in a cheap vehicle with a militia turret & still have a chance vs other more expensive vehicles, I do it occasionally and well, sometimes tanks run in fear of my Soma with basic missile turret (yeah I know it's not militia and requires points, but god damn rails/blasters are boring & much easier to use.) Vehicles wizards give feedback Av wizards gives feedback Cpm and devs proccess feedback and create patch. Is this too complex for you to understand? The fact that there are no 'wizards' in this game does make it a little hard to understand, but I get the gist... And I disagree, if you only do one role and not the other roles it effects, you have no idea what you're on about and should be ignored...
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:24:00 - [44] - Quote Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2490	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:33:00 - [45] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: It's the apocalypse I actually agree with what Atiim has to say Oh god no! I actually agreed too!! It's the end of the world! I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 77	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:03:00 - [46] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:05:00 - [47] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Saying Atiim did not meat the criteria was me trolling (Or at least attempting 2) I ain't falling back on anything lol. What needed to be said has already been said. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 77	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:07:00 - [48] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Saying Atiim did not meat the criteria was me trolling (Or at least attempting 2) I ain't falling back on anything lol. Oh, okay then. In that case, you aren't really a tanker, either. I have ran with you, and you use militia tanks 24/7. You aren't even good at it, and normally come in last place in the squad when we run with you. (Granted that was a long time ago,) and yet you still called yourself a, "real tanker.' Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 254	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:09:00 - [49] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Yes op is absolutely right My missile tank should have a 10 meter splash radius and do 1000 splash damage per missile As an occasional tank driver I know whats best for you foot plebs. You input is not necessary or desired, and is wrong anyways. also swarms should not lock onto my vehicles because lockons take 0 skill and I totally would not be whining about them if they were dumbfire and killed me anyways like forges (which should also be nerfed) If you do not have 20m+ sp in vehicle skills your opinion is irrelevant and you deserve to be stomped by me And you Sir Scrub should stop crying for the only things that can kill a tank to be nerfed, as if just because youhave a tank yur not supposed to be killed. Scrubs STFU OR GTFO
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:14:00 - [50] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Saying Atiim did not meat the criteria was me trolling (Or at least attempting 2) I ain't falling back on anything lol. Oh, okay then. In that case, you aren't really a tanker, either. I have ran with you, and you use militia tanks 24/7. You aren't even good at it, and normally come in last place in the squad when we run with you. (Granted that was a long time ago,) and yet you still called yourself a, "real tanker.' You may be better now, but you set militia as the requirement to be a real tanker long ago. Do you really want those people changing the game? 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot

Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 81	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:19:00 - [51] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, Quote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1129	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:22:00 - [52] - Quote Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win.
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 81	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:24:00 - [53] - Quote I would even join you guys. I have my proto missile launchers that can kill just about any tank in one burst when combined with a damage mod >:D Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:25:00 - [54] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, Quote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Bro,This is wayy too funny False quotes are lame. I never compared myself to the one called "Devadander" only mlt tanks, I've been running falchions since uprising 1.3 I always got in the pcs when I was online for 1 because I was you guys best tanker at the time. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:26:00 - [55] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win. If you want to die, Be my guest Moms basement? A little too generic try again? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 81	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:26:00 - [56] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, memory wrote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Bro,This is wayy too funny False quotes are lame. I never compared myself to the one called "Devadander" only mlt tanks, I've been running falchions since uprising 1.3 That's the problem. No one else runs a militia object, and claims to be, "legit," Ever seen a militia gun in a PC? Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1129	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:28:00 - [57] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win. If you want to die, Be my guest If I wanted to die I'd name my character Soulja and accept a 1v1 from my self. Because I'm going to win.
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:29:00 - [58] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, memory wrote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Bro,This is wayy too funny False quotes are lame. I never compared myself to the one called "Devadander" only mlt tanks, I've been running falchions since uprising 1.3 That's the problem. No one else runs a militia object, and claims to be, "legit," Ever seen a militia gun in a PC? Bro, I always bought my best ion cannons to pc's where have you been. False accusaastions are lame Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:31:00 - [59] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win. If you want to die, Be my guest If I wanted to die I'd name my character Soulja and accept a 1v1 from my self. Because I'm going to win. You have convinced me you have never faced a particle cannon before. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 82	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:31:00 - [60] - Quote I'll join in, too! Proto missile launcher! I haven't touched my tanks since before 1.7, when they weren't super OP. (It's no fun when you are OP!) I do, however, have 3 mil sunk into turrets, 4.5 mil sunk into vehicle upgrades, and one mil into vehicle operation, (which does nothing for tanks, really.) Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!



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