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Soulja Ghostface 2633	Posted - 2014.08.24 04:32:00 - [1] - Quote 500k-700k in isk asset that shoot kisses and drive around the field to be instaganked by rifles. It really is pathetic how people with no turret game, Who don't even deserve to touch the steering wheel of a single dropship or tank, With no sp in vehicles, Never had their wallet kick them in the balls (If they had any), Never massacred dropsuits with a large rail, Never flew a dropship for more then 5 minutes without exploding, Who never saw the sexy red glow of a cannon turret, Who never aimed a turret through the DUST of swarm fire, forges, and grenades Who never kissed their ads or tank goodnight after a long day of not dying and made scrambled eggs in the morning for it, Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2633	Posted - 2014.08.24 04:47:00 - [2] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Exactly, When dealing with tanks...Listen to the real tankers When dealing with ads...Listen to the real ads piilots When dealing with amarr logi... Listen to the real amarr logis When dealing with etc. ...Listen to the real etc. players Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2633	Posted - 2014.08.24 04:52:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: If Vehicle Pilots were the only ones who had influence over how vehicles are balanced, the vehicles would become insanely overpowered and AV weapons would become non-factors against them, due to a large amount of Pilots that feel as if AV weapons should be non-factors against them. Source: Uprising 1.7 - Hotfix Bravo A vehicle pilot or a fotm mlt sica bluedot? You might want to check your sources. Uprising 1.7 happened because ccp didn't listen to THE REAL VEHICLE PILOTS MrShooter01 wrote: My missile tank should have a 10 meter splash radius and do 1000 splash damage per missile Splash radius needs to be looked at but 1000 splash damage is a bit overkill Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2634	Posted - 2014.08.24 05:32:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Exactly, When dealing with tanks...Listen to the real tankers When dealing with ads...Listen to the real ads piilots When dealing with amarr logi... Listen to the real amarr logis When dealing with etc. ...Listen to the real etc. players I wholeheartedly agree. Now for my requests: Increase Swarm Launcher Lock range to 2000m (same range as the old Missile Installation AI). Increase Swarm Launcher Damage to 825/855/875HP per Missile. Increase Swarm Launcher Clip Size to 12 rounds (9 at the Militia tier). Increase Swarm Launcher Air Speed to 250m/s. Decrease Swarm Launcher Lock Time to 0.25s (.5s on Specialist Variants) We're only listening to the "real" Swarmers, so you have no say in this idea's implementation. Also. If you can read, you will notice you do not fall in this criteria Bone Scratcher wrote: No. You're not only wrong, but painfully wrong. You need everyone's opinion. If this were the case, I would say the following: -Give the Amarr sentinel a 25 sprint speed. -Give the HMG more DPS than a rail tank. -Remove the skills to get into heavies from the game, so that only current heavies have fun. See what I mean? What comes to mind when you see the word "Real"? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2635	Posted - 2014.08.24 05:41:00 - [5] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 500k-700k in isk asset that shoot kisses and drive around the field to be instaganked by rifles. It really is pathetic how people with no turret game, Who don't even deserve to touch the steering wheel of a single dropship or tank, With no sp in vehicles, Never had their wallet kick them in the balls (If they had any), Never massacred dropsuits with a large rail, Never flew a dropship for more then 5 minutes without exploding, Who never saw the sexy red glow of a cannon turret, Who never aimed a turret through the DUST of swarm fire, forges, and grenades Who never kissed their ads or tank goodnight after a long day of not dying and made scrambled eggs in the morning for it, Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. Must disagree, vehicles are not just balanced by one side, AV and infantry must have some input. Tankers and dropship pilots must have infantry support to kill av now. Its that simple. That forger or swarmer on the roof must be taken out by your infantry support. You are still used to super tank 1.8 where you could IGNORE av, now they must be dealt with. It really comes down to that. You can no longer ignore AV...... Vehicle wizards giving feedback about vehicles to ccp, AV wizards giving feedback about AV to ccp cpm and devs proccess feedback and create patch. Do you want a tanker telling ccp how much damage your swarm launcher should do? Or better yet somebody who only has mlt swarms? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2635	Posted - 2014.08.24 05:45:00 - [6] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: No. You're not only wrong, but painfully wrong. You need everyone's opinion. If this were the case, I would say the following: -Give the Amarr sentinel a 25 sprint speed. -Give the HMG more DPS than a rail tank. -Remove the skills to get into heavies from the game, so that only current heavies have fun. See what I mean? What comes to mind when you see the word "Real"? Real. Are you suggesting that I am not a real Amarr sentinel user? I'm a proto Amarr sentinel. I have been a sentinel since mid 1.7, which is longer than all of these FOTM guys. important and deserving to be regarded or treated in a serious way- Merriam Websters third definition of real We can all agree real people give real feedback? Quote: -Give the Amarr sentinel a 25 sprint speed. -Give the HMG more DPS than a rail tank. -Remove the skills to get into heavies from the game, so that only current heavies have fun. Is this real feedback? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2635	Posted - 2014.08.24 05:50:00 - [7] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: -Give the Amarr sentinel a 25 sprint speed. -Give the HMG more DPS than a rail tank. -Remove the skills to get into heavies from the game, so that only current heavies have fun. Is this real feedback? If you are really asking whether this is real feedback or not, your judgement/common sense is even lower than I had previously believed. Rhetorical Question If you didn't notice that then your judgement/common sense is even lower than I had previously believed. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2637	Posted - 2014.08.24 06:04:00 - [8] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 500k-700k in isk asset that shoot kisses and drive around the field to be instaganked by rifles. It really is pathetic how infantry that work hard Who don't need to touch the steering wheel of a single dropship or tank, With no sp in things they don't need that have their wallet kick them in the balls Never survived against any vehicle Never flew a dropship for more then 5 minutes without saying "This is boring/ too easy" Who always saw the flash of a cannon tank before getting ganked hard Who struggled to aim a turret through the DUST of eing bombared by a missile ADS Who never kissed their ads or tank goodnight after a long day of being nearly invincible in their bitchfit and made scrambled eggs in the morning for it, Have barely an influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. I agree with you. But jokes aside I don't. Vehicles don't really belong in dust Another infantry player who just wants shoot faces and blap tanks with assualt rifles? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2637	Posted - 2014.08.24 06:05:00 - [9] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Exactly, When dealing with tanks...Listen to the real tankers When dealing with ads...Listen to the real ads piilots When dealing with amarr logi... Listen to the real amarr logis When dealing with etc. ...Listen to the real etc. players So when dealing with AV only listen to av players? Sounds great to me. I am totally ready to have my forge gun have a bonus vs vehicles :) I think it should also have at least a semi homing projectile that is like a magnet. The more metal on the vehicle the more it homes :) Failed Troll Is Failed Also Goodluck getting that past the cpm and community managers Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2637	Posted - 2014.08.24 06:14:00 - [10] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Funny how you just dodged this: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: ...Listen to the real tankers... You wouldn't happen to be referring to yourself? lol... And this: Bone Scratcher wrote: You act like I can sense sarcasm over the internet, which, (again,) leads me to doubt your general common sense. Also, here. Didn't feel like typing it but Notice those question marks? Your forum pvp needs more sp invested to it Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot

Soulja Ghostface 2637	Posted - 2014.08.24 06:22:00 - [11] - Quote Didnt feel like answering but if you hold it over my head. Boom I answered it. Also if you reread some post you can see I usead a LOT of question marks. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2641	Posted - 2014.08.24 14:54:00 - [12] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Only people who do both, because otherwise we just get the "It killed me, so it's OP! even though I was running around in the open with no av to back me up" arguement. Doesn't take that much to bring in a cheap vehicle with a militia turret & still have a chance vs other more expensive vehicles, I do it occasionally and well, sometimes tanks run in fear of my Soma with basic missile turret (yeah I know it's not militia and requires points, but god damn rails/blasters are boring & much easier to use.) Vehicles wizards give feedback Av wizards gives feedback Cpm and devs proccess feedback and create patch. Is this too complex for you to understand? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 15:58:00 - [13] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: MrShooter01 wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Yes op is absolutely right My missile tank should have a 10 meter splash radius and do 1000 splash damage per missile As an occasional tank driver I know whats best for you foot plebs. You input is not necessary or desired, and is wrong anyways. also swarms should not lock onto my vehicles because lockons take 0 skill and I totally would not be whining about them if they were dumbfire and killed me anyways like forges (which should also be nerfed) If you do not have 20m+ sp in vehicle skills your opinion is irrelevant and you deserve to be stomped by me Umm... hmm... so, since infantry has all the say in how vehicles should be, can we vehicle pilots have all the say in how infantry should be? You see how stupid that is? If you have no experience in said role, I don't see why you should have any say in how it should be. I'm vehicle pilot and AV player and I find AV role to be ridiculously easy and OP, but I still shamelessly murder vehicles and I don't think AV needs any buff or nerf. Maybe buff, like 100% more dmg to all AV weaponry. I'm being serious, most AV players don't know what the hell they are doing so they need this aid. And then those who are already good at AV wouldn't be any more of a threat because they can already do their job just fine. Have fun getting the cpm to voice this for you. You are listened to, But have no INFLUENECES on changes as it should be. Swarms buffed by 100% lol Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:24:00 - [14] - Quote Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:05:00 - [15] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Saying Atiim did not meat the criteria was me trolling (Or at least attempting 2) I ain't falling back on anything lol. What needed to be said has already been said. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:14:00 - [16] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Too many quotes for me to quote that. (Darn quote limit) I can't troll? @ Atiim On a more serious note, I hope you have fun getting the cpm to voice that for you. Wanting swarms with those stats only shows how you are not a real AVer. @Atiim @Benjamin Cisko I legitly loled You weren't trying to troll. You simply realized how stupid this was, and decided to fall back to that as an excuse. Saying Atiim did not meat the criteria was me trolling (Or at least attempting 2) I ain't falling back on anything lol. Oh, okay then. In that case, you aren't really a tanker, either. I have ran with you, and you use militia tanks 24/7. You aren't even good at it, and normally come in last place in the squad when we run with you. (Granted that was a long time ago,) and yet you still called yourself a, "real tanker.' You may be better now, but you set militia as the requirement to be a real tanker long ago. Do you really want those people changing the game? 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:25:00 - [17] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, Quote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Bro,This is wayy too funny False quotes are lame. I never compared myself to the one called "Devadander" only mlt tanks, I've been running falchions since uprising 1.3 I always got in the pcs when I was online for 1 because I was you guys best tanker at the time. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:26:00 - [18] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win. If you want to die, Be my guest Moms basement? A little too generic try again? Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:29:00 - [19] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 2013-11-06 00:53:00 You really need to rethink how much sp I could of gained from then to now. And back then I only used mlt to save money as they were very expensive and loosing one meant I was bleeding isk for at least some hours of playing. Howerver I always got top points in the squad. Failed troll is a fail Did I deny that you could have improved between now and then? Nope. But before, you specifically told us that you only have militia tanks. You also told us that blueberry tankers that whine and cry on the forums need to shut up, because, memory wrote: They aren't even real tankers, like me, or Devadander. Putting yourself next to Devadander? In a militia tank? Sheesh. EDIT: Oh, and no. We specifically excluded you from PCs because we wanted a more qualified tanker. Bro,This is wayy too funny False quotes are lame. I never compared myself to the one called "Devadander" only mlt tanks, I've been running falchions since uprising 1.3 That's the problem. No one else runs a militia object, and claims to be, "legit," Ever seen a militia gun in a PC? Bro, I always bought my best ion cannons to pc's where have you been. False accusaastions are lame Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:31:00 - [20] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja 1v1 me I'll slay you out in front of your mom who I'm sure lives upstairs (get it? cause you live in your mom's basement) Tank vs Tank, you can use whatever you want. SPOILER: I'm going to win. If you want to die, Be my guest If I wanted to die I'd name my character Soulja and accept a 1v1 from my self. Because I'm going to win. You have convinced me you have never faced a particle cannon before. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot

Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:34:00 - [21] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: I'll join in, too! Proto missile launcher! I haven't touched my tanks since before 1.7, when they weren't super OP. (It's no fun when you are OP!) I do, however, have 3 mil sunk into turrets, 4.5 mil sunk into vehicle upgrades, and one mil into vehicle operation, (which does nothing for tanks, really.) Your in luck, The servers are currently not availiable EDIT: If that's all the sp you have in vehicles you need to step your game up Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:45:00 - [22] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. so only tankers should be listened to when CCP is making tank changes? lol Uprising 1.7 Tankers only asked for AV to be balanced against us, mlt tankers wanted tanks buffed, CCP listened and created 1.7 Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:47:00 - [23] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If I wanted to die I'd name my character Soulja and accept a 1v1 from my self. Because I'm going to win. You have convinced me you have never faced a particle cannon before. I've been in more PCs than you have pubs. I've 3 v 1 tankers from top corps and drove away with my turret smoking. I had 1v6 tanks in a dom and ended the battle without my shields ever dropping Save e-peen stroking for the war room plz Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:50:00 - [24] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: 500k-700k in isk asset that shoot kisses and drive around the field to be instaganked by rifles. It really is pathetic how people with no turret game, Who don't even deserve to touch the steering wheel of a single dropship or tank, With no sp in vehicles, Never had their wallet kick them in the balls (If they had any), Never massacred dropsuits with a large rail, Never flew a dropship for more then 5 minutes without exploding, Who never saw the sexy red glow of a cannon turret, Who never aimed a turret through the DUST of swarm fire, forges, and grenades Who never kissed their ads or tank goodnight after a long day of not dying and made scrambled eggs in the morning for it, Have more than 0% of influence in what the devs do with any vehicular changes. I like tanks where they're at now the problem I have with these weenie pilots is them being able to hop out with their burst hmg while i'm trying to use AV That is what is supposed to happen, Tanks are merely an extension of the player, When the player used that to benefit the team he becomes what the community calls a force multiplier. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:58:00 - [25] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: If I wanted to die I'd name my character Soulja and accept a 1v1 from my self. Because I'm going to win. You have convinced me you have never faced a particle cannon before. I've been in more PCs than you have pubs. I've 3 v 1 tankers from top corps and drove away with my turret smoking. I had 1v6 tanks in a dom and ended the battle without my shields ever dropping Save e-peen stroking for the war room plz 1 v 6 militia tanks is soo easy, I thought I wouldn't even mention the 1 v 16 I had in pubs, pubs are laughable, just like your mom's face. The fact that you must resort to rage shots over feats to compensate for your lack of forum pvp is laughable Just like your life ^^(Coudn't resist) Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface 2642	Posted - 2014.08.24 18:16:00 - [26] - Quote I'm done here, Nothing but derailed convos. (c me in-game for that nonsense) Quote: inability to think tactically outside of the motherships range Yes the team quota and all that other stuff prevents 1 v 16. I however wanted to throw a jab at the berries. Bring These Back Tanker Turned Ads Pilot
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2680	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:10:00 - [27] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: 1.7 was literally the worst update I have been around for. I am not a closed beta vet or anything, but I joined end 1.1-beginning 1.2. To say that you should only listen to one party in a debate is wrong on multiple levels. In addition to listening to the users of said object, their counterparts must also be involved in the debate. For example, take an open-minded vehicle operator like Judge Rhadamanthus, and also bring a swarmer whose interest is in a fair game, not a one-sided game. Many people want their designated role to be OP. A few want fairness. The challenge is finding the latter. Forgot to include that in the OP The whole point of this thread is for the people who want COD 514. Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2680	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:20:00 - [28] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: As a tanker, OP is wrong. Both sides need to have input because both sides affect each other. AV/V balance is a two way street. Soulja Ghostface wrote: Vehicle wizards giving feedback about vehicles to ccp, AV wizards giving feedback about AV to ccp cpm and devs proccess feedback and create patch. What was that about both sides? Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2694	Posted - 2014.08.30 18:09:00 - [29] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: Soulja, it's great that you are attempting to help improve the game. Some of your ideas are okay. With that being said, this one isn't. It's not that we personally dislike you. It's that this is a bad idea. So stop pushing it. You're being too stubborn to be of any help on this thread. Everyone has a bad idea from time to time. The difference between them and you is that they know when to drop it. Stop fighting so stubbornly on this thread, and come up with something decent. I already read through the thread and took note of some good points and moved on, Something decent? Right now i'm trying to keep vehicles in OMS (Support needed) and helping the effort of getting rid of this build of vehicles. Quote: So stop pushing it Already did that. Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !