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BlazeXYZ wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

Hey guys

So with Hotfix Charlie we trialed changing the sniper rifle crosshair. Please leave your feedback on the change in this thread.

Initial impressions point us to people not liking the change other than on the Tactical series of sniper rifles. At this stage, we would be looking to revert to the old crosshair on all sniper rifles other than the Tactical snipers, which would retain the new crosshair.

In my opinion the new crosshair is great. I haven't found any issues with it and I have seen many smiper rifle kills on the kill feed than ever before.

In my opinion the right person to ask about the new crosshair is Nod keras. This guy is OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qva5W-COGC8&list=PLDYupuoGmGBHUsyRK5HYxjFxSS84wP787&index=1

Symbioticforks wrote:

You're changing the dot for the sniper rifle in Hotfix Charlie.

new sniper rifle dot

I would really appreciate it if you could please address some concerns.

It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way as it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy enters the circumference. However this would create a false positive on when to fire. The bullet has not become any larger, and unless they were in the very center of your "new and improved dot" you would miss.

or

It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy is in the direct line of fire. However this would make things worse when it comes to lining up shots on moving targets because an accurate dead center point of reference has been completely removed and replaced by the "guestimation circle of poor aiming" .

Can you please describe how this will function when it comes to..

Moving Targets

Obtaining Head Shots

Head Shots on Moving Targets

Partially Covered Targets

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Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 68	Posted - 2014.08.22 18:16:00 - [61] - Quote The tactical SRs should keep the new reticle. It's made the tactical a rather lethal tool. However, maybe for the normal Sniper Rifles, put that second scope you listed on them? (Not the Plasma Cannon one, but the really small dot.) Or, better yet, add reticle customization! Please? Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please? Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. Lag Compensation Explained Just hit 1y in my corp!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3177	Posted - 2014.08.22 18:32:00 - [62] - Quote nicholas73 wrote: Can we just have an option on which scope we want in the settings? Not really possible, no. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
jace silencerww Inner.Hell 33	Posted - 2014.08.23 22:46:00 - [63] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hey guys So with Hotfix Charlie we trialed changing the sniper rifle crosshair. Please leave your feedback on the change in this thread. Initial impressions point us to people not liking the change other than on the Tactical series of sniper rifles. At this stage, we would be looking to revert to the old crosshair on all sniper rifles other than the Tactical snipers, which would retain the new crosshair. In my opinion the new crosshair is great. I haven't found any issues with it and I have seen many smiper rifle kills on the kill feed than ever before. In my opinion the right person to ask about the new crosshair is Nod keras. This guy is OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qva5W-COGC8&list=PLDYupuoGmGBHUsyRK5HYxjFxSS84wP787&index=1 that was the old sight not the new one in the video. btw here is what is wrong with the new circle one it is the same as the laser rifle Symbioticforks wrote: You're changing the dot for the sniper rifle in Hotfix Charlie. new sniper rifle dot I would really appreciate it if you could please address some concerns. It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way as it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy enters the circumference. However this would create a false positive on when to fire. The bullet has not become any larger, and unless they were in the very center of your "new and improved dot" you would miss. or It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy is in the direct line of fire. However this would make things worse when it comes to lining up shots on moving targets because an accurate dead center point of reference has been completely removed and replaced by the "guestimation circle of poor aiming" . Can you please describe how this will function when it comes to.. Moving Targets Obtaining Head Shots Head Shots on Moving Targets Partially Covered Targets the new one you put up is better just let us try it before and let us see if it is better. just please change the sight back to the old one while we wait on this one please! I love sniping but this present one SUCKS!
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 349	Posted - 2014.08.24 00:44:00 - [64] - Quote Any chance of a clue as to when these new scopes are likely to get put in? Or is it a case of gotta be kept quiet for now? (cough, hotfix delta, cough, final listing, cough..)
Strker Remorse OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 27	Posted - 2014.08.24 03:52:00 - [65] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey guys So with Hotfix Charlie we trialed changing the sniper rifle crosshair. Please leave your feedback on the change in this thread. Initial impressions point us to people not liking the change other than on the Tactical series of sniper rifles. At this stage, we would be looking to revert to the old crosshair on all sniper rifles other than the Tactical snipers, which would retain the new crosshair. UPDATE: So I went and did some more mad science and I came up with these as a third option: [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_On_Target.png[/img] [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_Off_Target.png[/img] Or if you rather less clutter: [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_Wide.png[/img] Thoughts on these as replacement for some or all of the current sniper crosshairs? Prefer the top one with the lines in tight to the dot "That bastards been sitting up in the rocks all morning just waiting for two idiots to line up in his sights."
Strker Remorse OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 27	Posted - 2014.08.24 03:54:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: Like again, it looks good.. Just imagine tracking a target moving on a rooftop.. from left to right.. you line up for a head shot.. but the horizontal lines are partially obscuring your view.. (or imagine "more lines" when you're trying to focus one guy surrounded by his buddies.. think 1 logi 3 heavies) I really don't like clutter. Thanks for the reply. How about offering multiple variations of the guns for sale with each of the reticles? Is this not a possibility? Technically a possibility, but it would seriously clutter up the market. I'm fine with having different crosshair types for the different variants of sniper rifles (as they need to be different guns anyway) but adding different types just for the crosshair is something I'm not a real fan of doing. On another note, how does this look? Like I was saying, I can push out the size a bit for the extra lines [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_Wide.png[/img] extra lines to far out "That bastards been sitting up in the rocks all morning just waiting for two idiots to line up in his sights."
ak tak Gallactic Security Force 0	Posted - 2014.08.25 02:55:00 - [67] - Quote I would actually like the reticule with a little bigger dot, just a bit larger. Sniper Shot Edited for larger dot
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 441	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:01:00 - [68] - Quote Sooo, the thales is classified as a tactical variant? and its going to keep charlie's reticle according to the current plan? Playing RL

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 9180	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:47:00 - [69] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Sooo, the thales is classified as a tactical variant? and its going to keep charlie's reticle according to the current plan? No, the Thales is based off the standard Sniper Rifle. The Balac's Sniper is based off the Tactical variant. CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2177	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:06:00 - [70] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: The Balac's Sniper is based off the Tactical variant. Since when? Everything about the Thale and Balac snipers points to both being based off the normal variant (like the ARs I suppose). If the Balac was based off the tactical variant shouldn't it have a smaller clip and higher RoF (among other things)? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 502	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:27:00 - [71] - Quote The Balac's is not salvageable is it? Because I have never encountered one ingame ever
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2177	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:51:00 - [72] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: The Balac's is not salvageable is it? Because I have never encountered one ingame ever No. It was a reward in the closed beta Tester's Tournament and the Squad Cup earlier this year (and nothing else I believe). Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
jace silencerww Inner.Hell 39	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:18:00 - [73] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: The Balac's Sniper is based off the Tactical variant. Since when? Everything about the Thale and Balac snipers points to both being based off the normal variant (like the ARs I suppose). If the Balac was based off the tactical variant shouldn't it have a smaller clip and higher RoF (among other things)? this is what I got from ccp Thank you very much for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support. This is an Officer's weapon. Please find the specifications for the Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle below: -Damage: 250 HP -Rate of Fire: 50 RPM -Clip Size: 7 -Maximum Ammo: 28 -Reload Time: 4.00 Seconds -Meta level 10 -Slot: Dropsuit Light Weapon -CPU: 51 -PG: 13 so looking at both you can see the differents is the thale does more damage, SAME ROF, less in the clip (5), less ammo 25. same on the other stats. lol it does 21 more damage the the ish sr with 2 more in the clip and 3 extra bullets so lol why would you use it?
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2177	Posted - 2014.08.27 04:30:00 - [74] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: so looking at both you can see the differents is the thale does more damage, SAME ROF, less in the clip (5), less ammo 25. same on the other stats. lol it does 21 more damage the the ish sr with 2 more in the clip and 3 extra bullets so lol why would you use it? I'm well aware of it's stats since I've had the weapon for more than two years now (plus you can also find the stats in other places), and I've told CCP it's terrible compared to the Thales several times in the past two years. That doesn't change the fact that the stats suggests it's based off the normal variant, just like the Thales. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:08:00 - [75] - Quote Logibro, Let's troll the entire Dust playerbase by making the sniper reticle like a Forge Gun's!!!! Symbiotic, I think you're being a little too finicky about using the PLC crosshair. The lines aren't big enough to obscure the view of other targets unless you're trying to push the limits of your range by shooting little specks that hardly even render. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 67	Posted - 2014.08.27 21:45:00 - [76] - Quote Good. Snipers will still need a buff and zoom increase. SPAWN.KILL.DIE.RESPAWN.
Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 279	Posted - 2014.08.30 23:10:00 - [77] - Quote Liking the last one you guys came up with, should be much easier with my charge than the circle, and the tinyness of the dot will help significantly with headshots and equipment. what i think of when charging fg
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone 101	Posted - 2014.09.01 01:05:00 - [78] - Quote +Å like the first one the best Supporter of Legion Supporter of Valkyrie Supporter/Fan of Eve
topo 88 The Anarchy Effect 2	Posted - 2014.09.01 03:13:00 - [79] - Quote hello, the circle is very bad, is imprecise. I like the solution proposed by CCP Logibro. (http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_On_Target.png). Regards.
S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 53	Posted - 2014.09.01 20:56:00 - [80] - Quote There was nothing wrong with the dot size before the change to a circle and I cant remember anyone complaining about it. What was the need to change it. The old dot size was perfect.

Leanna Boghin Paradox Pride 426	Posted - 2014.09.02 09:59:00 - [81] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Thoughts on these as replacement for some or all of the current sniper crosshairs? Really wish we could test this rather than just look at a screen shot. Would really prefer to see both versions in action before making a definate decision. But if i must choose i would have to say the top one would be more efficient with the proposed changes for sniper rifle range in delta (im guessing more people will come out of the redline) so it will give people and easier advantage on lining up their target for a shot. The bottom option just wouldnt be feasible when your strafing and trying to aim and shoot at the same time. Would also like to see this option on the tactical sniper as well as the charged and standard sniper rifle. But like i said would prefer to see this in action for myself before completely deciding on the reticle. I snipe in the redline because i know it pisses you off
Skyline Lonewolf Ancient Exiles. 41	Posted - 2014.09.02 19:52:00 - [82] - Quote http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_On_Target.png[/img I liked this one the best and would be the reticule I'd recommend implementing. The current circle one is giving me false positives on some of my shots. Previously, I could dragscope and headshot people before with the old reticule, but the one from Hotfix Charlie seems to have issues. Destination: Destiny. I see you coming from a mile away. 18 KDR > ReGnYuM Twitter: SkylineExplicit
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1101	Posted - 2014.09.03 00:17:00 - [83] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Pretty! Love that it fixes the circle's "false positive" problem (red crosshairs, missed shot). Can you by chance show us what it looks like at 200+ meters? [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Hotfix/Delta/Sniper_Range.png[/img] I like the horizontal and vertical lines but the wings on the horizontal lines obscure too much. Because, that's why.
Niuvo Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1012	Posted - 2014.09.04 05:40:00 - [84] - Quote I liked the new cross-hairs or rather dot.
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. 429	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:22:00 - [85] - Quote I don't snipe often, but when I do, I like the new crosshiar. Stay thirsty my friends. Twitch & YouTube
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1982	Posted - 2014.09.08 13:30:00 - [86] - Quote How about keeping the new recticle and allowing a shot to hit anywhere inside the circle? This would be an excuse to leave the damage nerf the way it is. Otherwise, if the old recticle is brought back then increase the damage back to how it used to be. Nerf the thales range and zoom though. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Vesta Opalus Kang Lo Holding 23	Posted - 2014.09.08 17:22:00 - [87] - Quote Dont re-engineer the wheel. Reality has already pretty much hashed out the best possible crosshair, make it two thin lines intersecting at the middle of the scope (the third picture in OP is pretty ideal, but maybe add a nice vertical line as well) Also is there any chance we can make it so HUD karats over peoples head render ABOVE their head in stead of in front of it? Im aiming at that head, I need to see it. This happens frequently with people kneeling down for some reason.
AEON VINTOREZ ALLOTEC INC 0	Posted - 2014.09.09 02:05:00 - [88] - Quote I really like the top "cluttered" sight, it is a good compromise for those who like the new circle sight and those who prefer the old dot sight. The new Hotfix Charlie sight took a lot of getting used to and I don't know anyone who prefers it to the old one. It is more affective at close range and moving targets but the rail rifle already does a really good job at that and it has the advantage of being able to be fired from the hip. It would be nice and more realistic if the sniper rifle could be fired from the hip too. The only way to make everyone happy would be to add scopes to the market next client update, it would be a nice touch to be able to customize any proto weapon with a selection of scopes or a hip fire battle sight. It would be nice to be able to fit a dot scope to use on large maps where you need to take on redline snipers, use the current scope for mid range maps and a Rail Rifle/ Combat Rifle scope for urban combat.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1999	Posted - 2014.09.09 11:20:00 - [89] - Quote What use are the "wings"? Just do a good ol' fashion crosshairs like on today's scopes. Would be more useful if the "wings" were close to the dot (about as close as the outside of the circle on the present recticle) so they would act as a "lead" line. I.e. When you lead the target you can use the distance of the line and the dot to hit. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Michael Arck 5479	Posted - 2014.09.10 09:48:00 - [90] - Quote I'm really liking that new reticule (plasma cannon variant)! Nice way to level headshot from shoulder to dome, since I always bring my reticule up from the shoulder base. It's got my vote Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*



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