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RayRay James wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

Kam Elto wrote:

If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it.

Unless its a turret, in which case : use away. No risk, great gain. Also while I imagine that trope seems fresh and cool to you it fails in every way in regards to creating a fun and fair game. If you wanted to look like you do not understand the game, its future or it's players then your comment did you proud. If you wanted to look pithy and clever, then you failed on a scale that would not fit onto the Tranquility server, even if we wiped it clean to make space for all of your fail and then compressed it using the best zip software known to man.

Judge, the "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose" mantra is as old as EVE.

That being said, I dislike the redline cannons now as well because of the HP buff, but I actually don't know if I consider your description of the Manus Peak railgun. It's withing the 200M range so it should be a viable weapon, just like a forge gun can shoot it back. Only now, that forge gun can't just stand in the open and plink away.

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Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 787	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:54:00 - [1] - Quote Take the installatons out of the redline. Now that you buffed the sht out of installations, please take them out of a place that encourages camping. They are hard as sht to kill. Please oh please remove them from the redline. Redline railgun is just the worst. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3006	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:56:00 - [2] - Quote The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no.
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 787	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:57:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. Bro, do you even ADS? *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2796	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. Nope. Got reduced from 2000m to I think 250m.
NAV HIV The Generals Anime Empire. 1948	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:06:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. Didn't they reduce the range on missile turrets ?! Turrets should be on the field.... not for campers to camp from redline.. We have Sentinels + Thales scrubs for that...
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2796	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:10:00 - [6] - Quote How exactly is a turret in a redline considered 'camping'?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1085	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:49:00 - [7] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Take the installatons out of the redline. Now that you buffed the sht out of installations, please take them out of a place that encourages camping. They are hard as sht to kill. Please oh please remove them from the redline. Redline railgun is just the worst. I actually herd your voice shaking while you were whining . This must be some nice kush that I just got . Maybe I need to take a break , I'm seeing and hearing $h!t . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:57:00 - [8] - Quote Do something about the installations. I dont ads to fight installatiions every match, its getting too repetitive.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3290	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:06:00 - [9] - Quote Why? If your ADS is being shot down by automated turrets your too close to the redline. If your ADS is being shot down by manned turrets your too close to the redline. The question is why are you less than 250m from their redline? They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 437	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:07:00 - [10] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Take the installatons out of the redline. Now that you buffed the sht out of installations, please take them out of a place that encourages camping. They are hard as sht to kill. Please oh please remove them from the redline. Redline railgun is just the worst. stay out of the redline in your ADS. problem solved.

Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 789	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:20:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Why? If your ADS is being shot down by automated turrets your too close to the redline. If your ADS is being shot down by manned turrets your too close to the redline. The question is why are you less than 250m from their redline? why am I being show down from installations within the redline? Why are they in the redline? Objectives are being covered by redline turrets. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3010	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:20:00 - [12] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. Nope. Got reduced from 2000m to I think 250m. Was that a change in Charlie? I didn't read the notes on this one. "Either way, no."
Deacon Obvious Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 57	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:21:00 - [13] - Quote I have had no problems with the new installation turrets that a little bit of cover, and a full stock of swarm ammo can't handle.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:21:00 - [14] - Quote Look at the bridge map, those installations on the hill will reach an ads no matter what at least move them a little further in the map. So they can at least be assaulted.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3327	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:25:00 - [15] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Why? If your ADS is being shot down by automated turrets your too close to the redline. If your ADS is being shot down by manned turrets your too close to the redline. The question is why are you less than 250m from their redline? why am I being show down from installations within the redline? Why are they in the redline? Objectives are being covered by redline turrets. To prevent redlined teams from being further bombarded by ADS and tank spam. My Minja school
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2706	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:26:00 - [16] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. How about Manus peak Domination for a start? Redline rail installation with 2.5 times the hp of a tank. 300m range, Free to use, can destroy 600k ISK vehicles, 220k ISK suits; 186m from the domination objective. How is that not BS of the highest order? Email Me [email protected] Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 789	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:29:00 - [17] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. How about Manus peak Domination for a start? Redline rail installation with 2.5 times the hp of a tank. 300m range, Free to use, can destroy 600k ISK vehicles, 220k ISK suits; 186m from the domination objective. How is that not BS of the highest order? Also, it takes 25 XT-1 missiles to kill an installation now. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 438	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:34:00 - [18] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. How about Manus peak Domination for a start? Redline rail installation with 2.5 times the hp of a tank. 300m range, Elevated position, Free to use, can destroy 600k ISK vehicles, 220k ISK suits; 186m from the domination objective. How is that not BS of the highest order? If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2706	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:39:00 - [19] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it. Unless its a turret, in which case : use away. No risk, great gain. Also while I imagine that trope seems fresh and cool to you it fails in every way in regards to creating a fun and fair game. If you wanted to look like you do not understand the game, its future or it's players then your comment did you proud. If you wanted to look pithy and clever, then you failed on a scale that would not fit onto the Tranquility server, even if we wiped it clean to make space for all of your fail and then compressed it using the best zip software known to man. Email Me [email protected] Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2800	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:41:00 - [20] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Kam Elto wrote: If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it. Unless its a turret, in which case : use away. No risk, great gain. Also while I imagine that trope seems fresh and cool to you it fails in every way in regards to creating a fun and fair game. If you wanted to look like you do not understand the game, its future or it's players then your comment did you proud. If you wanted to look pithy and clever, then you failed on a scale that would not fit onto the Tranquility server, even if we wiped it clean to make space for all of your fail and then compressed it using the best zip software known to man. Polite as always I see

Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2706	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:47:00 - [21] - Quote Sometimes Pokey we all have to poke back. Email Me [email protected] Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2800	Posted - 2014.08.14 19:06:00 - [22] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Sometimes Pokey we all have to poke back. Just as long as you don't let it get too out of hand
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3290	Posted - 2014.08.14 19:15:00 - [23] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Joel II X wrote: The only redline turret that's overkill is the Missile since it has infinite range. Either way, no. How about Manus peak Domination for a start? Redline rail installation with 2.5 times the hp of a tank. 300m range, Elevated position, Free to use, can destroy 600k ISK vehicles, 220k ISK suits; 186m from the domination objective. How is that not BS of the highest order? Kill the operator, he is kinda stationery. An automated turret is no threat, a manned turret is a free kill. If anything I'd say that redline turrets should be made invincible altogether. Until we can call in our own installatons, removing turrets from the redline is just going to end up, with vehicles running rampant in our redlines. Prehaps the problem with the Manus Peak is not the location of the installations but with position of both teams redlines and the posistion of the console, it's one of the worse domination maps, period. The NULL cannon should be in the middle of the 2 sockets, with the redlines much futher back. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2800	Posted - 2014.08.14 19:18:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Kill the operator, he is kinda stationery. An automated turret is no threat, a manned turret is a free kill. Well to be fair, you can't readily kill an operator who is using a turret in the redline. I think installations in the redline are a good countermeasure to keep enemies away from the redline. I think the issue here is more so that the exact placement of said installations are problematic in same cases. So we should look more at where in the redline they should be placed, and not so much getting rid of them completely.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3291	Posted - 2014.08.14 19:31:00 - [25] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Kill the operator, he is kinda stationery. An automated turret is no threat, a manned turret is a free kill. Well to be fair, you can't readily kill an operator who is using a turret in the redline. I think installations in the redline are a good countermeasure to keep enemies away from the redline. I think the issue here is more so that the exact placement of said installations are problematic in same cases. So we should look more at where in the redline they should be placed, and not so much getting rid of them completely. Afterburner! I'll agree to that, I like these turret buffs, both as Infantry, AV and a Pilot, it be a shame if it was all undone because a few dropship pilots are bitter they can't kill people in the redlines. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 405	Posted - 2014.08.14 19:53:00 - [26] - Quote Remove red line turrets and introduce a bullet barrier. Copypasta incoming! Here's how it would work: 1. Make the red line an invisible wall to the enemy team that they cannot pass through or fire through. 2. Make the red line impossible to fire through for its own team. 3. Take out the maps where the red line is right next to the objective or move the objectives that are too close further from the red line. 4. ?????? 5. Profit! Inb4: But what about if they are popping in and out of their red line firing at the players! This is the reason for step 3. But how will we keep them contained in their red line? You won't that's part of the problem. If you need to trap the enemy team in their spawn in order to win you don't deserve to win. As to how you would rationalize this for lore purposes. The MCC emits a force field there you go.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 349	Posted - 2014.08.14 20:03:00 - [27] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Kam Elto wrote: If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it. Unless its a turret, in which case : use away. No risk, great gain. Also while I imagine that trope seems fresh and cool to you it fails in every way in regards to creating a fun and fair game. If you wanted to look like you do not understand the game, its future or it's players then your comment did you proud. If you wanted to look pithy and clever, then you failed on a scale that would not fit onto the Tranquility server, even if we wiped it clean to make space for all of your fail and then compressed it using the best zip software known to man. Judge, the "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose" mantra is as old as EVE. That being said, I dislike the redline cannons now as well because of the HP buff, but I actually don't know if I consider your description of the Manus Peak railgun. It's withing the 200M range so it should be a viable weapon, just like a forge gun can shoot it back. Only now, that forge gun can't just stand in the open and plink away.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14693	Posted - 2014.08.14 20:09:00 - [28] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Kam Elto wrote: If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it. Unless its a turret, in which case : use away. No risk, great gain. Also while I imagine that trope seems fresh and cool to you it fails in every way in regards to creating a fun and fair game. If you wanted to look like you do not understand the game, its future or it's players then your comment did you proud. If you wanted to look pithy and clever, then you failed on a scale that would not fit onto the Tranquility server, even if we wiped it clean to make space for all of your fail and then compressed it using the best zip software known to man. Judge, the "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose" mantra is as old as EVE. That being said, I dislike the redline cannons now as well because of the HP buff, but I actually don't know if I consider your description of the Manus Peak railgun. It's withing the 200M range so it should be a viable weapon, just like a forge gun can shoot it back. Only now, that forge gun can't just stand in the open and plink away. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm fairly certain forge gunners don't have over double the HP of a tank, with no need to reload.... Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1032	Posted - 2014.08.14 20:14:00 - [29] - Quote Okay, let's keep redline railgun installations... but give the redline ones 1500 armor and 1000 shield.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2802	Posted - 2014.08.14 20:15:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm fairly certain forge gunners don't have over double the HP of a tank, with no need to reload.... They really should be required to reload. A turret is a turret, regardless if its sitting on an HAV or a installation platform.



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