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Kovinis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.08.14 09:11:00 -
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Here we go again. Everything is happening again. before FanFest 2014 where were dead silence from devs and CPM and BAM! - Dust is dead, we were working on new project. After that we got all back, with full devs and CPM support... for a while. Where our promised progression dev blog? And other dev blogs to Legion? Awesome news? Bad news? Any news?
And now they are again in silence. What are they doing? They are still working 5 days in a week. It's a business - they have to. But the question is on what they are working? Dust? Legion? New project? Incarna?
Did Project Legion did not got green light?
And the other question - WHEN they will tell us on what project they are working. If CCP is working again on infamous NDA, at least maybe you can tell us when NDA is lifting off, and you can tell us on what you were working?
I hope it will not be FanFest 2015 and the message be "Legion is in the past, we are working on a new project"
I support EVE Legion, but the message was very badly delivered...
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Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
337
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Posted - 2014.08.14 09:48:00 -
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http://youtu.be/qIMvntC6pBc?t=10s
Just look at that, and let your troubles melt away...
Following Stanley, to ADVENTURE! (Courtesy of The Adventure LineGäó)
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medomai grey
WarRavens Final Resolution.
891
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Posted - 2014.08.14 10:21:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:http://youtu.be/qIMvntC6pBc?t=10s
Just look at that, and let your troubles melt away... How can anything be so cute?
Back to the main topic. Everyone is wondering what the hell is going on with Legion. DEVs were unsilenced and discussed Legion freely. Now they are silent again. One cannot help but speculate something has gone awry.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3273
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Posted - 2014.08.14 11:21:00 -
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I think the projects dead in the water, the dont have the funds or the staff to pull of an exchangeing shooter, sadly they missed the window. Odds are all resources are being thrown into valk. Thats a non risk win.
Legion will have to fight with rainbow six, destiny, and devision they just wont get anywhere in that kind of market
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3049
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:29:00 -
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I would like to issue you some complimentary tin foil.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Banjo Robertson
Evzones
259
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Posted - 2014.08.15 02:46:00 -
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It would be nice to hear from anyone who is working on legion how the progress is coming along, whether they have already gotten the green light, or how close to making a presentation for green light approval they are. |
DaReaperPW
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.15 06:16:00 -
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Its been just over a month since the last actual real update. A month... take a mild chill pill.
IF legion is dead, which i doubt, you will prolly know around eve vegas, in 2 months.
TBH they are prolly working on something, they got quite at fan fest cause they were working on something. But honestly, chill. You want to know how many updates Valk has made about there actual progress since fan fest? 0. A dev talks on the forums but no real updates. Relax a bit. They will inform when they are ready, just go back to playing dust or whatever other game you play in the mean time.
And IF its dead then meh. point is you can;t do anything about it so why worry? |
steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3273
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:26:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I would like to issue you some complimentary tin foil. You are aware that the cpm have zero creditably after what youre former peers did so snarky comments will just further fule mistrust and strengthen the feeling that you're a joke and just free cheerleaders
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3067
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:52:00 -
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By what they "did", I assume you mean their legally-mandated jobs, right? And while they omitted, as they were required to, as far as I know, they didn't outright lie.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4044
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:20:00 -
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I expect the Green Light announcement will be used to gain as much publicity and hype as possible. If we are lucky the announcement will come at EVE Vegas, but we might have to wait for Fanfest.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Ghural
Pradox One Proficiency V.
299
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Posted - 2014.08.16 09:52:00 -
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Oooh a tinfoil hat thread. Can I play too?
/me puts on tinfoil
I predict that Legion has not been greenlit. CCP after viewing the "OMG TAKE ALL MY MONIES" nerd fest surrounding Star Citizn have decided to make Legion a part of the EVE client.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4050
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Posted - 2014.08.16 11:48:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Oooh a tinfoil hat thread. Can I play too?
/me puts on tinfoil
I predict that Legion has not been greenlit. CCP after viewing the "OMG TAKE ALL MY MONIES" nerd fest surrounding Star Citizn have decided to make Legion a part of the EVE client.
Keys to open the door will start at $500 EVE runs on my Mac. That would be a lot less expensive for me than having to buy a gaming PC.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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emm kay
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:52:00 -
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The reason that they are silent is most likely because corprate has told them not to leak anything before the green light, as it would be a HUGE hit to their fanbase if they kept a blog and then one day it was like "whoop upper management cancelled this project, sorry".
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You called, sir?
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
934
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:50:00 -
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The tin foil is so very, very real.
Likely we haven't heard anything about Legion for awhile because of a double whammy of:
(1) CCP dissolved their Dust specific community department and let go some of our best community managers in the process. This was a business decision, but basically the only community manager from whom I get the vibe that he really cares about Dust is...Logibro. For the last while Logibro has probably been very busy making arrangements for the CPM elections, and likely has time absorbed by Eve-related tasks as well.
The only other community rep I ever see posting Dust related stuff is Falcon, and it always seems like he's doing that out obligation rather than desire.
(2) They legit don't have that much to say. As mentioned, CCP just let go quite a few staff members. They announced who remained out of the community team because we'd be able to figure that out anyways. The development team? Not so much. There's no way of knowing how many devs Shanghai lost, and no way that CCP are going to release those numbers to us. The CPM probably know, so that's interesting. In this interview, before the layoffs, Atli said that Shanghai had approximately 60 developers. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/03/project-legion-eve-online-preview-interview/ . That number has probably shrunk. That means there are fewer people producing news that can be delivered to the community, fewer people to facilitate delivering that news, and probably more work per person to do internally.
Legion is the most back-burner of back-burner projects out of CCP's New Eden games. Valkyrie has buzz, it could be their next money spinner. Eve is potentially a bit stagnant at the moment, but it's nowhere near dead. Legion? Legion is a dream in a few people's heads- an attempt to salvage sunk costs from ruining Dust with bad decisions for two straight years. Don't be surprised if news is extremely slow about Legion until Valkyrie gets into people's hands.
That being said, the tin-foil about them not making it is absurd. If that were the case, they wouldn't have obligated themselves to flying 7 CPM members to China for practically no return on that value for CCP.
Have a pony
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Ghural
Pradox One Proficiency V.
299
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:33:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that CCP is no under no obligation to fly the CPM members anywhere.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:21:00 -
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Ghural wrote:I'm pretty sure that CCP is no under no obligation to fly the CPM members anywhere.
Except to madness .
You're right, their under no explicit obligation as far as I'm aware. I don't think they agree to a contract with the CxM members despite there being an NDA involved. That being said, there's no way they're going to sign up a CPM, put resources into holding elections, take their volunteer hours, deal with interacting with them, and then they're going to pull a Lannister and not fly them out to Shanghai in several months.
For a company in a slump like CCP, it's not okay to do things like that. Any more significant PR blunders that end up being public-facing (such as screwing over the people involved in one of their most-cited PR points) just aren't tenable at the moment.
I now sell tin foil wholesale. We even do installation for your whole house.
Have a pony
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Hector Carson
Hellz Gate of Awakening
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:18:00 -
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I don't even know why there making another game like Dust why not finish what they started, this game has potential, it just needs to be taken care of like a puppy or it will die off, don't start another project before you get the first one done. I'm also kind of glad Legion didn't work out maybe they can go back to focusing on this game. |
Hawk-eye Occultus
ARKOMBlNE
342
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:39:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:I don't even know why there making another game like Dust why not finish what they started, this game has potential, it just needs to be taken care of like a puppy or it will die off, don't start another project before you get the first one done. I'm also kind of glad Legion didn't work out maybe they can go back to focusing on this game.
PS3 itself is dying, DUST is optimized for the PS3, so that code is going to be nasty for other things, ergo you must salvage your assets and get with the times.
I also like how you refer to the failure of legion in the past tense, just wait for Vegas, then you will know. They can't not talk about it.
Following Stanley, to ADVENTURE! (Courtesy of The Adventure LineGäó)
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Spectre-M
The Generals Anime Empire.
724
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:17:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I would like to issue you some complimentary tin foil.
You're worse than Jenza. Congratulations on being a substancless lackey, the community will never trust you.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4701
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Posted - 2014.08.18 06:31:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I expect the Green Light announcement will be used to gain as much publicity and hype as possible. If we are lucky the announcement will come at EVE Vegas, but we might have to wait for Fanfest.
It will most definitely be used to generate hype. Mostly because CCP doesn't actually do anything legitimate to generate hype. |
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TooL 10000dayz
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:34:00 -
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legion cancelled ?
Use the blood of your enemies to cool off your imperial rifle - Lost field manual
Amarr FW enthusiast :D
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3533
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:45:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I would like to issue you some complimentary tin foil. You're worse than Jenza. Congratulations on being a substancless lackey, the community will never trust you. /me Passes the rage torch to Soraya
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
111
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Posted - 2014.08.18 20:45:00 -
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cant seem to find my tin foil
Absorb what is useful,
discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3535
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:10:00 -
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote:cant seem to find my tin foil Borrow Pyrex's. He always has plenty to spare.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3132
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:12:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Spectre-M wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I would like to issue you some complimentary tin foil. You're worse than Jenza. Congratulations on being a substancless lackey, the community will never trust you. /me Passes the rage torch to Soraya /takes the torch
I'll pass this on to CPM2 when it's time. Thanks.
Okay, but seriously, there's no substance to suggestions that Legion has been cancelled. They are very busy, doing things. I'd like to see more out of them, but there's not much I can say on that yet.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:32:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote: Okay, but seriously, there's no substance to suggestions that Legion has been cancelled. They are very busy, doing things. I'd like to see more out of them, but there's not much I can say on that yet.
Are they laser focused on it?
(only kidding)
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9092
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:19:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Soraya Xel wrote: Okay, but seriously, there's no substance to suggestions that Legion has been cancelled. They are very busy, doing things. I'd like to see more out of them, but there's not much I can say on that yet.
Are they laser focused on it? (only kidding)
Do they need more *psssh*?
LOL, sorry. I just wanted to join in on the jokes.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9092
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:22:00 -
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My Dream, My Melody
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
416
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:17:00 -
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ummm, I assume, and this is a wild guess, but that since it was a early project, and that we've given them tons of feedback so far, that they are gathering all of it up, and working on it? |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3150
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:53:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Are they laser focused on it?
Whatever CCP is up to, I always assume they are laser-focused on it. :)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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