Wow its still there

Im amazed since you were talking about removing it anyways, is that still on the table?

Also SP dropsuit refund since you screwed up my Gal sent/Cal scout by changing it all again

Perfect example of how stupid this community is. Complains about something before actually logging in and looking, or reading the pages of notes which describe it.

Well done sir.

Me personally , I have killed off most of my Caldari Sentinel fits and I have started using exclusively Gal Sentinels .

Again something Caldari being useless ... Charlie has killed the Caldari Sentinel for me .

I could go on about other things that I have noticed but why ..??.. it's not worth it and if I'm not feeling better by the weekend then I have to say , that I will take a break until Delta and hopefully right after Delta those who choose to can have a SP refund .

I would love to get out of the Caldari heavy ... love the Commando ( my fav suit because I snipe ) but the basic heavies and sentinels are useless for me now .

What have any of you noticed about life after Charlie , that has totally thrown your game off or just things that any of you would change if possible ?

The Advanced and Proto Caldari Sentinel should still be fine. It is only the Standard tier that is useless.

Of course this means you canGÇÖt grind ISK in a Caldari Sentinel suit.

Having neither a low slot nor an equipment slot makes a suit virtually useless, as it has no way to self repair armor.

I will be pushing for a passive armor repair for the Caldari Sentinel in Delta to compensate for the slot deficit. I expect the dramatic drop in the use of the Standard Caldari Sentinel suits which will start today will support my case.

charlie killed shield tanking full stop.

Gallente = armor / Caldari = shield / Amarr = stamina / Minmatar = moveing speed!!!! Y give the races a base type if ur goin 2 make one suit have it all. That's the only problem I have with the update and it should to be fixed. Its not right to the ppl that skilled into one race do 2 the base type. O n I think all the suits should have 2 weapons not just 1

CCP Rattati and Logibro seem to be trying to get each races' bonuses and slot layouts more inline with their Eve counterparts. I like that a lot.

Havent checked it out yet. So are you guys telling me that the fears were warranted? That Caldari/CalSen/shield tanking is once again penalized?

Thats disappointing that yet again certain players who choose to play roles within one race are penalized to compromise for the nile river of tears.

I hope I'm wrong in this assesement.

Havent checked it out yet. So are you guys telling me that the fears were warranted? That Caldari/CalSen/shield tanking is once again penalized?

Thats disappointing that yet again certain players who choose to play roles within one race are penalized to compromise for the nile river of tears.

I hope I'm wrong in this assesement.

CalSent is still useful. Fitting is a bit harder - which was needed.
Just watch out for the pro AmAss with viziam!

Ha Viziam has been giving me nightmares for years. At least that didnt change lol.

Interesting, can you send a screenshot of that?

He's talking about not being able to fit it on... he's still got the sidearm slot... *facepalm*

You can still shield tank although with the higher buffer with armor tanks it's become far more defined that the armor tanks walk about killin' things while the shield tanks have to dodge in and out of cover... but the more slots on suits and the more this becomes evident. At least my Caldari assault can fit the enhanced shield energizer that my Caldari sentinel can no longer fit.

My biggest complaint is that if all suits can naturally regen shields why can't all suits naturally rep armor? Just give Gallente the most passive armor rep, but all suits should have at least 1 armor rep. It's pretty silly that a std caldari sentinel is now garbage being incapable of applying passive rep. It worked okay on the std commando since it's pretty much only good as a sniper so nano repping isn't so bad but the sentinel....

My theory on why shield tanking is generally garbage in comparison to armor is that clone counts are 1 to 1. Higher buffer is better at ensuring you will at least kill one guy while shields you may die first. Compound this with the ever increasing TTK and the possibility that shield tanking had of "ambushing" armor tanks has dropped.

It is essentially the old scout QQ. If you can't kill the target fast enough you being more mobile and ambushing them doesn't matter.

I'm sad that my Amar sentinel, despite having 1 more low slot now has less armour than it did yesterday, my cal assault is still weak my cal scout now pointless - give the minnies our range bonus and remove the cal scout altogether, heck maybe remove all caldari stuff altogether - maybe they might have an easier job if there was one less race to 'balance' around.

The assault buff DID make the assault more survivable, BUT that only slows the scout down by a few seconds before he kills you. 6 months ago with 1.8 ( wow thats a long time since them ) scouts became OP. Idk how but they did along with heavies, and mediums sucked, not because they were UP but because the changes that came with 1.8 somehow killed the role of assaults. So this new assault buff helps when fighting logis, assaults and heavies but doesn't fix the problem of basic scouts murdering Proto assaults with maxed skills.

So charlie is good but the assault buff wasn't the best.

Interesting, can you send a screenshot of that?

Interesting, can you send a screenshot of that?

I hate it a lot. on paper the scouts look balanced but only on paper . still king of scouts is Gall, then a close second Amarr & Caldari and way behind them is Minnie. I have all 4 scouts proto and by far the weakest is Minnie they are the only scouts who have no ewar bonus and lacking pg. I love the nk damage and hack is nice but I would prefer something ewar over the hacking bonus.