DUST Search - What do you think about Charlie ???

NAV HIV wrote:

CCP catering to a special class of cry babies, who complain about everything every build... They choose Suit "X " and then they get annihilated by Suit "Y" user .... Then they come to the forums and Cry about Suit "Y" for the rest of the Build... Then CCP caters to their tears and then gives Suit "X" the Stats and Layout of Suit "Y"....

But the thing here is that, Suit "Y" user specced into Suit "Y" after reading the description, the same as Suit "X" user... But CCP just changes the roles of that suit to cater to the cry babies... Without any SP refund to Suit "Y" user... Not even a "Hey guys we are sorry, for writing the wrong description on the label, please HTFU"

SP IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN SOMETHING, CHOICES YOU MAKE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEAN SOMETHING...

But that's not the case though... Now it's becoming like COD where everyone has everything... Hell, i have everything i need, i doesn't affect me if CCP changed all my suits lol or weapons... But if a players First proto suit was a Cal scout or a Gal heavy ?! how are they supposed to survive now ?!

CCP please stop catering to cry babies...

On another note, My assault suit is better than most Heavies, My Heavy feel like "Hammer of Thor"... My Cal Scout is fun and tricky to use, but it's still better than Amar Scouts and min Scouts... Calmando is still the same, but Light damage modifier made it more interesting.... But it's still the same ugly Baby blue + Pistachio green color... Please change it to a Mean looking suit... Gal Scout is very invisible and still the better suit for the Shotgun lol

You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.


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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1058	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:47:00 - [1] - Quote Me personally , I have killed off most of my Caldari Sentinel fits and I have started using exclusively Gal Sentinels . Again something Caldari being useless ... Charlie has killed the Caldari Sentinel for me . I could go on about other things that I have noticed but why ..??.. it's not worth it and if I'm not feeling better by the weekend then I have to say , that I will take a break until Delta and hopefully right after Delta those who choose to can have a SP refund . I would love to get out of the Caldari heavy ... love the Commando ( my fav suit because I snipe ) but the basic heavies and sentinels are useless for me now . What have any of you noticed about life after Charlie , that has totally thrown your game off or just things that any of you would change if possible ? You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1059	Posted - 2014.08.13 14:03:00 - [2] - Quote TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: Just killed a tank with standard Nova knives... You should have recorded that one . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1059	Posted - 2014.08.13 14:25:00 - [3] - Quote Bethhy wrote: 7 months of shield and armor imbalances in suits.. And it still gets worse. The simple fact that they made it 50x worse in one patch makes all their hard work moot. Pretty much this explains Hotfix Charlie Hopefully by the end of the alphabet it will be alright for those of you who are planning on playing legion . I can agree with your statement . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1062	Posted - 2014.08.13 16:28:00 - [4] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: charlie killed shield tanking full stop. Indeed . Only those who play that style could relate though so that means that many won't be able to understand . I do because I play that game and I do agree . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1062	Posted - 2014.08.13 16:31:00 - [5] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: overall I'm liking it. Still confused by the decision to up damage mods power given the reasons to reduce them in the first place. I really didn't like the old days. Then again if they are stacking damage mods it means less shields for my CR to chew through, so I guess swings and roundabouts That also makes those who contest you with SCR's , RR 's and CR's much more stronger as well so they might have the upper hand . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1065	Posted - 2014.08.13 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: The Advanced and Proto Caldari Sentinel should still be fine. It is only the Standard tier that is useless. Of course this means you canGÇÖt grind ISK in a Caldari Sentinel suit. Having neither a low slot nor an equipment slot makes a suit virtually useless, as it has no way to self repair armor. I will be pushing for a passive armor repair for the Caldari Sentinel in Delta to compensate for the slot deficit. I expect the dramatic drop in the use of the Standard Caldari Sentinel suits which will start today will support my case. Just don't disappoint , now do you ? I'm glad that you see what others including myself .. are talking about . I will post on your thread with any info that I can to help ... I just can't see myself using the Cal Sent for anything other than a forge now so that's a disappointment but like I said , I did skill in Gal Sent so that should not be too much of a problem . Make that thread and those who use or had used now , the Cal Sent .. will come and support you I'm sure . I'm for all things Caldari but I just can see myself wasting the SP's just to try something out , if it has no battlefield importance to me I just won't attempt to use it . I for one would just like the Caldari roles to have better bonuses , besides the scouts which are the best performers in the game as far as Caldari roles are concerned ... to me . They should have switched the plasma resistance bonus with projectile but I don't see too many that would back that change but I believe that would help the Cal Sent to be a force on the battlefield and keep them in line with the rest of the Sent's and not the worst and to me that's where they stand right now . Thanks for your input Fox ... you are always welcome . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1065	Posted - 2014.08.13 19:47:00 - [7] - Quote [quote=CCP Rattati] How are the new sights on sniper rifles suppose to work ? Are we suppose to line up the target inside the dot or what ? I do that and still can't register a hit and when I hit someone , I don't know how or what to do to repeat that process . It's kind of confusing . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1070	Posted - 2014.08.14 00:34:00 - [8] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: You can still shield tank although with the higher buffer with armor tanks it's become far more defined that the armor tanks walk about killin' things while the shield tanks have to dodge in and out of cover... but the more slots on suits and the more this becomes evident. At least my Caldari assault can fit the enhanced shield energizer that my Caldari sentinel can no longer fit. My biggest complaint is that if all suits can naturally regen shields why can't all suits naturally rep armor? Just give Gallente the most passive armor rep, but all suits should have at least 1 armor rep. It's pretty silly that a std caldari sentinel is now garbage being incapable of applying passive rep. It worked okay on the std commando since it's pretty much only good as a sniper so nano repping isn't so bad but the sentinel.... My theory on why shield tanking is generally garbage in comparison to armor is that clone counts are 1 to 1. Higher buffer is better at ensuring you will at least kill one guy while shields you may die first. Compound this with the ever increasing TTK and the possibility that shield tanking had of "ambushing" armor tanks has dropped. It is essentially the old scout QQ. If you can't kill the target fast enough you being more mobile and ambushing them doesn't matter. I just had to like what you said because it's true . I think you were being too diplomatic in your statement but it just shows that you choose to take the higher ground . I can't understand why most just don't see it , I just can't believe it's from lack of knowledge because most of these players have alts and play with different styles but when you speak about shield tanking ... most just don't get it ... they want to talk like they do and when someone has an opinion like yourself , or myself because I'm more incline to agree from experience ... they would be quick to say that we have it all wrong but most of these same people are armor tankers mostly . I totally agree with what is said about the Cal Sent and it's just sad about how changes can totally render one's work and SP investments moot . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1070	Posted - 2014.08.14 00:37:00 - [9] - Quote m621 zma wrote: I'm sad that my Amar sentinel, despite having 1 more low slot now has less armour than it did yesterday, my cal assault is still weak my cal scout now pointless - give the minnies our range bonus and remove the cal scout altogether, heck maybe remove all caldari stuff altogether - maybe they might have an easier job if there was one less race to 'balance' around. That's how I feel as well because they just can't seem to get it right . AMEN ... brother . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1077	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:44:00 - [10] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: CCP catering to a special class of cry babies, who complain about everything every build... They choose Suit "X " and then they get annihilated by Suit "Y" user .... Then they come to the forums and Cry about Suit "Y" for the rest of the Build... Then CCP caters to their tears and then gives Suit "X" the Stats and Layout of Suit "Y".... But the thing here is that, Suit "Y" user specced into Suit "Y" after reading the description, the same as Suit "X" user... But CCP just changes the roles of that suit to cater to the cry babies... Without any SP refund to Suit "Y" user... Not even a "Hey guys we are sorry, for writing the wrong description on the label, please HTFU" SP IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN SOMETHING, CHOICES YOU MAKE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEAN SOMETHING... But that's not the case though... Now it's becoming like COD where everyone has everything... Hell, i have everything i need, i doesn't affect me if CCP changed all my suits lol or weapons... But if a players First proto suit was a Cal scout or a Gal heavy ?! how are they supposed to survive now ?! CCP please stop catering to cry babies... On another note, My assault suit is better than most Heavies, My Heavy feel like "Hammer of Thor"... My Cal Scout is fun and tricky to use, but it's still better than Amar Scouts and min Scouts... Calmando is still the same, but Light damage modifier made it more interesting.... But it's still the same ugly Baby blue + Pistachio green color... Please change it to a Mean looking suit... Gal Scout is very invisible and still the better suit for the Shotgun lol ^^^^ is how a lot of people in the community feels . Well put sir , very well put . We know that your trying to balance things out CCP and we truly appreciate your efforts but you just can't keep changing directions after you have set us on a path and then all of a sudden , you have a few who don't care for the direction that we are going in ... you people read , you see the suggestions but you look at numbers and don't really think about the in-game effects until being in-game . Now you want to complain ... what the community needs to do is begin to go threw all pre arranged adjustments with a fine tooth comb an stop looking at just the stats , start to figure out what will be the effects of said changes and how they will effect the overall game play and more than that , how it will effect each individual role so we don't have to keep going threw this constant change of direction . Every change made should benefit all involved and not just a particular race or role but instead , most just think about their personal gain . Very well put sir and it's part of the reason why we go threw these constant changes in directions . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1078	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:59:00 - [11] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Your smart ass attitude wont win you any points. You are not funny and we dont appreciate you trolling us in a game that most of us have put good money into. My suggestion to you is to start listening to the players that actually PLAY the game and stop being trolling ** tard. Because if you keep pissing off your player base your precious company you work for is going to go bankrupt. And ban me if you want for speaking the truth i really dont give a at this point. At least i got the balls (for a woman) to call you guys on your stupid ass bullshit you pull. BTW your Hotfix Charlie didnt fix a thing. Try actually working on bugs instead of "fixing" stuff that doesnt need fixing. I for one am tired of being stuck on rocks , on walls ( Has a scout just SG the $h!t out of me yesterday for instance because I became stuck to a wall while trying to evade ) , game lagging during gun exchanges , having trouble traversing the terrain and becoming stuck in crevices . These issues are some of the things that can cause one to just become frustrated and stop playing . We know it's a game and things happen but these are some of the issues that have plagued this game since I started playing and I'm coming up on my year anniversary , also I'm sure these things didn't just appear out of thin air and were here before I came to New Eden . We're on C so hopefully by F some of these issues can be resolved . The community needs a SP refund for those who file a ticket when Delta drops , this will also solve some problems and breath a " new life " into the game for most and frankly after the infantry changes , just needs to happen to right some of the changes that are being made . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.**
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1078	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:03:00 - [12] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Some thoughts: * My standard Caldari Sentinel is completely useless. Not being able to repair ~40% of your entire health pool gimps it.. * Minmatar Assaults finally don't suck. I can finally take that skill above level 1 and not feel like I wasted SP. * Shields still seem a bit underpowered, despite my caldari/minmatar assaults now being able to stack more. * Burst HMG feels bad, and is no longer something I will ever use in its current state. * Absurdly high HP ceiling for armour sentinels is still obnoxious (looking at you, Amarrian filth) * Orbital spam reduction is sexy. Not bad... but the things that are in dire need of addressing are becoming more and more obvious with each hotfix. (Scotty, tier disparity, holes in content) Agreed and well put . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1078	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:05:00 - [13] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sniper Rifle Cross Hair is terrible Power creep is obvious in an attempt for balance. Agreed and needs to be revised . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1084	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:36:00 - [14] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: They aren't giving a RESPEC because of the Logi and Sidearm changes come Delta. Once they change those bonuses and what not as I posted in feedback and discussion, then there will be no excuse. Just wait for another month or so, then we can tear down the ceiling :) I like the sound of that . On a side note , are the skills changes applying because skills says radius and I should have 30% more right ..??.. and I have level 4 on my personal so even without a mod and I'm not saying that I don't have one on but I do have a fit where I use a scanner as well , no cloak , use a A-86 .. now I know that's not much but when I use that I feel like I just can't see as well as I should , now I understand about dampened scouts .. I just skilled into level 3 of the SG .. have the same in NK ( I could talk about scouting another time because I am interested ) but you know that they just actually applied a lot of bonuses that should have been and actually fixing a lot of problems with bonuses not applying but I just feel like something's missing and I understand that I don't have a lot in my tree , not maxed but a lot hovering . I hope that they check that but I understand that it's still early and it's only at C but that's if there actually planning on fixing those problems or will the same happen in legion ? All the bonuses should apply by now and we shouldn't revisit this problem any time soon .. that's paramount . Shouldn't even be talked about . I see a lot of what's listed with incorrect stats . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1085	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:58:00 - [15] - Quote Demandred Moores wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: charlie killed shield tanking full stop. How so? My mko assault is beast and my cal sct is still a monster. My amarsentinel is beast also only thing that seems titally broken is the cal sentinel. Don't get me started on the Cal Sent , I hope that they change their bonus to 3% shield resistance to laser weapons and 2% to projectile weapons , even more so after these current changes . There bonuses need to be changed because their ineffective and with no low slot at basic , come on .. CCP you act like they were the Gal Sent or the Amarr even , no offence to all but they need something even more now because you rendered SP's moot , everyone doesn't run Proto because most can't .. they don't have the SP's to . You see all these people talking about prototype this and that but I can't relate to suit talk because I have weapons and I tried to focus on my core because that's mandatory . I put a lot into vehicles as well . Got screwed on that but that's another story . At least vehicles are usable , the basic Cal Sent isn't .. no reps . Basic like the beginning of making a character , they should have it in the FW market because that's where it truly belongs . Speaking of that , I still can't understand why swarms are in the FW market for Caldari but they don't have the bonus on the Commando suits ? You could replace those with the Cal Sent in the FW market or FG's because they don't have the bonus so why have them in the market for Caldari . Hell , you could take CR's out of the FW market , it's the most widely used gun and if people don't have it by now it's their fault , skill into it dammit . It just doesn't make sense to me . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1085	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:16:00 - [16] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Lunatic Kota wrote: This Hotfix is **. CCP decides to take away out decisions the. Tell us they still have consequences. Go yourself CCP. I'm serious. You guys change whatever you want because 3 *** scrubs *. I'm sick of this . "No respecs will be given." Explain why..... Seriously give us a couple of lines as to why this is? Because you guys don't have the man power I'm assuming. Or you're literally attempting to run people off. GG it's working. >Implying manpower is necessary to initiate code that already exists (They respecced out of Beta.) No they don't want to give respecs because they never gave Eve respecs. Most the players bashing respecs are doing so because of the rhetoric, that Eve doesn't get respecs. Eve =/= Dust. I could understand if Dust actually impacted Eve and the games were truly integrated as promised but they aren't, so we need to stop with this "But Eve!" bullshit, it's literally childish. Punishing your consumers that you want to give a damn about your products every time YOU change is not good business practice. Not only that but your already taking away something that they had interest in and yes , you don't have the numbers that you might like CCP but that's partly your fault threw listening to the wrong people in the community .. the whiners or CPM , don't know but they were wrong and it showed during FF but that's neither here nor there , also not fixing a lot of tedious minuet problems that became a focal point threw lack of attention . It use to bother but now it doesn't matter . As far as Dust goes , when delta drops is all I care about and I'm not ashamed to admit it . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.**
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1085	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:26:00 - [17] - Quote Tychus that edit was deep brother . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.