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Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.13 11:24:00 - [1] - Quote How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. Bullsh*t
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 324	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:02:00 - [2] - Quote As if not everyone can use a mouse and keyboard. If you're gonna be hardheaded, don't blame everyone else who takes advantage of the right tool for the right job. Damn hammers! Everyone use a screwdriver to nail those nails! Whaaaa! THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 230	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:04:00 - [3] - Quote Controller is for Dropship and m/kb is for infantry Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
V1RONXSS AL0NE Inc. 15	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:17:00 - [4] - Quote Never bothered me to try out kb/m, maybe cose i have only leptops at home ;) But there sportbro's who takes the game as competition and things like "better kdr" is a goal, so dont see here anything wrong. USE CORRECT FIT, DON'T BE STUPID
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1678	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:20:00 - [5] - Quote Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. An even battle does not excist, once you get rid of KBM, youl want to get rid of teams, then when you get rid of teams, proto equipment has to go, everyones EHP needs to be the same and everyone eventually will be using 1 and the same gun, vehicles are removed and then vantage points are removed, eventually SP is gone so that when its just you 1 vs 1 in a boxed room get your ass handed to you because he is sitting at a desk with a 1ms gaming monitor and you are hanging in a couch 4m away from your TV screen that has too much input lag.... Its always gonna be something to whine about... Just get better at FPS games or find another game genre to play, noone is keeping you from spending 100$ on a kbm setup when the rest of us had to buy a 250$ console to play 1 game, we just happened to have our KBM setup already. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 10:43:00 - [6] - Quote #2 I'm not be'n hard headed just want to try something out, guess you wouldn't play during that time period #3 ok. #4 I see your a PC player with all them laptops, just guessing #5 yea a even battle meaning real life like something you can really touch, no get'n rid of all that is just a something you'd want if they got rid of your precisous kb/m, sitting that close to your monitor you must have some hugh glasses by now, my tv is big enough trust me reaction time isn't a problem, I like this fps till it goes to PC I bought a console not a PC so I won't do that, no one made you go buy a console for one game should maybe you should kept the battle in space Like I said just a experiment because it's on a console and not forever, for the time be'n the PC player could be do'n battle in space, then the nightmare could be over and they can bring back the kb/m. Must of struck a nerve #touchysubject Bullsh*t
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 437	Posted - 2014.08.14 10:46:00 - [7] - Quote You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right?
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 230	Posted - 2014.08.14 10:48:00 - [8] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. An even battle does not excist, once you get rid of KBM, youl want to get rid of teams, then when you get rid of teams, proto equipment has to go, everyones EHP needs to be the same and everyone eventually will be using 1 and the same gun, vehicles are removed and then vantage points are removed, eventually SP is gone so that when its just you 1 vs 1 in a boxed room get your ass handed to you because he is sitting at a desk with a 1ms gaming monitor and you are hanging in a couch 4m away from your TV screen that has too much input lag.... Its always gonna be something to whine about... Just get better at FPS games or find another game genre to play, noone is keeping you from spending 100$ on a kbm setup when the rest of us had to buy a 250$ console to play 1 game, we just happened to have our KBM setup already. My M/kb set cost only 35$ basic USB mouse + Basic Logitech kb. And I did buy new PS3 only for DUST514 Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:17:00 - [9] - Quote Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's Bullsh*t
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 230	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:24:00 - [10] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's True. I'm old PC player (from counter strike 1.5 --> CS:source) and I can't shoot or even move with controller. Best thing in consolegames is that everybody has a same hardware and framerates. Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:29:00 - [11] - Quote Ight koo I get that ,all wanted to do is try it out just to see if there is a difference in the game play Bullsh*t
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1678	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:40:00 - [12] - Quote Mregomies wrote: Big Swool wrote: Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's True. I'm old PC player (from counter strike 1.5 --> CS:source) and I can't shoot or even move with controller. Best thing in consolegames is that everybody has a same hardware and framerates. Best thing in my mind is the peace of mind you get that the other guy is not playing with a wallhack/aimbit combo, i can live with they having aim assist and i am sorry that most people on consoles are using an inefficient control method, but lately on PC it just aint much fun. Its just too obvious sometimes on PC fps games, beat a guy like he doesnt excist, next day you come across the same guy and can't land a bullet on him before he headshots you while you get the drop on him from behind. Or they pm you to ask what aimbot i r using, they want to get the same one....at some point 70% of the playerbase in War Z was using aimbots & wallhacks...guy clips through the wall, headshots me and my 5 friends before we can react... Stuff like that aint happening on consoles, its sad but playing FPS games on the pc, its sad but bad people tend to run cheats instead of trying to get better. The reason we KBM guys are here is because Dust 514 got promoted to allow for native KBM players to play, if they had not promoted that, we would not be here, besides, native control got canned when Uprising Hit, we are all playing with a virtual DS3 overlay in front of our KBM, so we get ****** twice....no aim assist, no native KBM support....all KBM players are playing with crutches, balls nailed to the floor and hands chopped off. Bad kbm players on dust are still just as bad. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3004	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:41:00 - [13] - Quote Mregomies wrote: Controller is for Dropship and m/kb is for infantry I hated using KB/M for infantry. KB/M are strictly for tanks.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 11:53:00 - [14] - Quote We'll Rei I agree with the cheat sht I just don't get how it fun, it's just something I would want to try and then I wouldn't comment on it anymore if there is really no difference and all the other players who use controllers couldn't say sht anymore either. I really like this game for the social that's what mainly got me and I was thinking of go'n PC when this one goes PC but that's just a thought. Bullsh*t
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1679	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:03:00 - [15] - Quote If they cant contain cheaters on Dust Legion, it will cause the game to be ruined, imagine losing proto-suit after proto-suit in isk against a bunch of cheaters. I am not sure why they didnt opt for a PS4 option, maybe because of Destiny..i dunno PS: Even in the end of War Z, all 5 of my friends where using Wallhacks & Aimbots, they said it was needed to play the game, i quit that day and 5 days later they all got banned, bought a new account and /repeat. Thats 5 friends that were so b*tthurt from the cheaters that they were converted to one...ill never understand. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 230	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:11:00 - [16] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: If they cant contain cheaters on Dust Legion, it will cause the game to be ruined, imagine losing proto-suit after proto-suit in isk against a bunch of cheaters. I am not sure why they didnt opt for a PS4 option, maybe because of Destiny..i dunno PS: Even in the end of War Z, all 5 of my friends where using Wallhacks & Aimbots, they said it was needed to play the game, i quit that day and 5 days later they all got banned, bought a new account and /repeat. Thats 5 friends that were so b*tthurt from the cheaters that they were converted to one...ill never understand. I was an Admin in one popular CS server and it was so sad to see how people wanted to ruin the game so badly by using cheats. I hope Legion won't turn that... because I must buy new PC for that game... Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:16:00 - [17] - Quote Yea that should be at the top of the list as priority #1, I've been wait'n on that, ps4 would open up more opinions for the game, but I believe it will stay on ps3 till Legion drops, I took a look at Legion it looks just like Dust but with better graphics and more map detail. Bullsh*t
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:22:00 - [18] - Quote Ok tell me this I don't see why they keep messing with the weapons, I'd like to see more maps and different types of battle objectives, I might have to start a new topic?? Bullsh*t
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 439	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:54:00 - [19] - Quote Not a PC player. The KBM on Dust is no way is the same as a PC game where you can run KBM exclusively and see the same advantages from a pc game to this console game. Most KBM users of Dust use it only in certain aspects, such as piloting a tank or sniping.
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 439	Posted - 2014.08.14 12:59:00 - [20] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Mregomies wrote: Big Swool wrote: Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's True. I'm old PC player (from counter strike 1.5 --> CS:source) and I can't shoot or even move with controller. Best thing in consolegames is that everybody has a same hardware and framerates. Best thing in my mind is the peace of mind you get that the other guy is not playing with a wallhack/aimbit combo, i can live with they having aim assist and i am sorry that most people on consoles are using an inefficient control method, but lately on PC it just aint much fun. Its just too obvious sometimes on PC fps games, beat a guy like he doesnt excist, next day you come across the same guy and can't land a bullet on him before he headshots you while you get the drop on him from behind. Or they pm you to ask what aimbot i r using, they want to get the same one....at some point 70% of the playerbase in War Z was using aimbots & wallhacks...guy clips through the wall, headshots me and my 5 friends before we can react... Stuff like that aint happening on consoles, its sad but playing FPS games on the pc, its sad but bad people tend to run cheats instead of trying to get better. The reason we KBM guys are here is because Dust 514 got promoted to allow for native KBM players to play, if they had not promoted that, we would not be here, besides, native control got canned when Uprising Hit, we are all playing with a virtual DS3 overlay in front of our KBM, so we get ****** twice....no aim assist, no native KBM support....all KBM players are playing with crutches, balls nailed to the floor and hands chopped off. Bad kbm players on dust are still just as bad. This. Hits the nail on the head in detail.

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:14:00 - [21] - Quote I haven't done a fps on a PC, I haven't played on a PC period in years I like controllers that's why I went to with a console, well I can pretty much tell if someone is using a kbm, but to really see I'd like them to try it ,it's just a experiment I'd like to try. Do you think kbm players would still play during that period. I'd like to play them with a controller in there hands and if they did a event with strictly kbm I might go get a set just to try, maybe Bullsh*t
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:32:00 - [22] - Quote I had seen the post Rei made I know why kbm players are here mostly CCP promoted it a PC company, and most of the kbm players came from Eve, so CCP if your reading come on just one time before you drop Legion. Ya know ya kinda owe us one Bullsh*t
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1112	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:33:00 - [23] - Quote I wanted to help, but there is so much illiteracy in this thread that I'm just going to walk away while you people get caught up on your homework. Read a ***** book, you *** mental midgets. How stupid do you feel not knowing how to spell small, simple words? I mean, this is that I had under control by third grade. Some of the words that you morons misspell is appalling. If I have to keep living in this world with you mother *** sucking up all of the good air, then I'm just going to have to start telling you people about yourselves. God damn, I hope I don't live too much longer. I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that is hilarious.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 13:41:00 - [24] - Quote You must be a editor for you local newspaper, sorry not using the proper writing didn't mean to offend, I'm a double check next time, so next time it doesn't take so long for a *** like yourself to long to catch on to what's being typed Bullsh*t
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1114	Posted - 2014.08.14 14:20:00 - [25] - Quote Big Swool wrote: You must be a editor for you local newspaper, sorry not using the proper writing didn't mean to offend, I'm a double check next time, so next time it doesn't take so long for a * like yourself to long to catch on to what's being typed I'm a by choice. You and all of these other idiots are stupid by default. Who do you think feels better about their situation? If you want to extend a conversation with somebody that may have the intelligence to assist you, I'd suggest trying to look like you wouldn't be a waste of efforts. It's simple *** spelling. Not grammar or punctuation. I'm talking about some remedial skills here, so I understand your feelings being hurt, but you have the power to fix it. I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that is hilarious.
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 2	Posted - 2014.08.14 14:51:00 - [26] - Quote Mregomies wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: If they cant contain cheaters on Dust Legion, it will cause the game to be ruined, imagine losing proto-suit after proto-suit in isk against a bunch of cheaters. I am not sure why they didnt opt for a PS4 option, maybe because of Destiny..i dunno PS: Even in the end of War Z, all 5 of my friends where using Wallhacks & Aimbots, they said it was needed to play the game, i quit that day and 5 days later they all got banned, bought a new account and /repeat. Thats 5 friends that were so b*tthurt from the cheaters that they were converted to one...ill never understand. I was an Admin in one popular CS server and it was so sad to see how people wanted to ruin the game so badly by using cheats. I hope Legion won't turn that... because I must buy new PC for that game... You'll need a STEAM MACHINE, CCP is incapable of correcting their horribad network latency issues and the fuktarded match making-they need Uncle Gabe's help with both, as well as, an anti cheat solution and software distribution network. FIX YOUR LATENCY CCP!
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11408	Posted - 2014.08.14 14:59:00 - [27] - Quote Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 2	Posted - 2014.08.14 15:17:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. You say this as if you think that a DS3 is not more difficult than kbm? added via my DS4 controled PS3.
captainIreland Mcalpines Fusiliers Covert Intervention 29	Posted - 2014.08.14 15:31:00 - [29] - Quote And that's why scouts are op because of there strafe speed goes well with k&m. That's probably why it hard to balance stuff in this game because of the two control setup I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1681	Posted - 2014.08.14 15:49:00 - [30] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: I wanted to help, but there is so much illiteracy in this thread that I'm just going to walk away while you people get caught up on your homework. Read a ***** book, you *** mental midgets. How stupid do you feel not knowing how to spell small, simple words? I mean, this is that I had under control by third grade. Some of the words that you morons misspell is appalling. If I have to keep living in this world with you mother *** sucking up all of the good air, then I'm just going to have to start telling you people about yourselves. God damn, I hope I don't live too much longer. Its awesome that you can spell 100% correctly....but some of us do not care about that on a forum. Besides, better spelling don't make you better at an FPS game. RYN0CER0S wrote: Big Swool wrote: You must be a editor for you local newspaper, sorry not using the proper writing didn't mean to offend, I'm a double check next time, so next time it doesn't take so long for a * like yourself to long to catch on to what's being typed I'm a ** by choice. You and all of these other idiots are stupid by default. Who do you think feels better about their situation? If you want to extend a conversation with somebody that may have the intelligence to assist you, I'd suggest trying to look like you wouldn't be a waste of efforts. It's simple ***** spelling. Not grammar or punctuation. I'm talking about some remedial skills here, so I understand your feelings being hurt, but you have the power to fix it. aaaand i still dont care that you excist... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 482	Posted - 2014.08.14 15:54:00 - [31] - Quote Mregomies wrote: Controller is for Dropship and m/kb is for infantry i do fine as logi with m/kb [LogiBro in Training] channel: BP SQUAD
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1161	Posted - 2014.08.14 15:55:00 - [32] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's no one buys dust.. i'm not a KBM or PC player but your whine and ad homs are doing nothing to salvage your thread.. stop blaming KBM or the players who use it on your own failure. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1681	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:05:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. How does taking away a control scheme that we are used to and replacing it with one we never used, gets you to gauge how good we actually are? If you give a DS3 user a KBM setup, they do not instantly increase in skill you know. I would suggest you look up a flash game to test your reaction speed as most people sit around 0.23-0.27ms on average anyone with a 0.15ms average will still own you when they get used to the controller. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:39:00 - [34] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Big Swool wrote: Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem. Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion. So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's no one buys dust.. i'm not a KBM or PC player but your whine and ad homs are doing nothing to salvage your thread.. stop blaming KBM or the players who use it on your own failure. We'll I wasn't whining if you read everything that was read was typed you would of got the point. Just something I'd want to see. Bullsh*t
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11413	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:49:00 - [35] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Atiim wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. How does taking away a control scheme that we are used to and replacing it with one we never used, gets you to gauge how good we actually are? If you give a DS3 user a KBM setup, they do not instantly increase in skill you know. I would suggest you look up a flash game to test your reaction speed as most people sit around 0.23-0.27ms on average anyone with a 0.15ms average will still own you when they get used to the controller. I don't see any reason to get better with a DS3, its a flawed control for FPS games, why bother getting better with it ? I'm not suggesting that anyone should be forced to use DS3 over KB/M, nor am I suggesting that KB/M is superior to DS3 (it's actually not unless your Sniping or FGing). You're argument should be placed against the OP. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 16:51:00 - [36] - Quote Ight Rei yea I pretty much know kbm players don't play with controller I want to see if there is a difference in the game if you take that setup out for a short amount of time, I guess it depends on who you ask if it makes them better, I don't have problem with reaction, we'll if everyone had the ds3 then we'd all have the same flaw. Bullsh*t
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1296	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:25:00 - [37] - Quote Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. lol Have you tried MKB? It's harder to use than the DS3. Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players. Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:32:00 - [38] - Quote What about if CCP makes Dust 514 a PC game so we can see how good this Console kiddies truly are ?...Just the mouse and keyboard ... no aimbots and crap like that.... oh... wait... they already doing that....
Patrlck 56 425	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:48:00 - [39] - Quote I've used a controller for so long that I can't do **** with a mouse and keyboard anymore. :'(
aaaasdff ertgfdd 216	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:56:00 - [40] - Quote Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. PS3 recognizes mouse and keyboard as a valid in put method. PCs recognize controllers as a valid input method. Mouse and keyboard does not get aim assist. Im not sure exactly what your gripe is? Do you think consoles dont use mouse and keyboards? They didnt back on like Atari, but ever since, the first nintendos and things like the POWER GLOVE, there have been alternative input methods. Would your restrictions also apply to Move controllers? What about people who are handicapped? Are theynot supposed to use their needed input method to participate? Heres a clue you need to get. Its not the enemy controller that is the problem, its yours and the thumbs connected to it. Get a rep tool and do what no skill does best, support. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 17:58:00 - [41] - Quote Leadfoot ok I bet Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sht if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen. Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles. Bullsht
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:08:00 - [42] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. PS3 recognizes mouse and keyboard as a valid in put method. PCs recognize controllers as a valid input method. Mouse and keyboard does not get aim assist. Im not sure exactly what your gripe is? Do you think consoles dont use mouse and keyboards? They didnt back on like Atari, but ever since, the first nintendos and things like the POWER GLOVE, there have been alternative input methods. Would your restrictions also apply to Move controllers? What about people who are handicapped? Are theynot supposed to use their needed input method to participate? Heres a clue you need to get. Its not the enemy controller that is the problem, its yours and the thumbs connected to it. Get a rep tool and do what no skill does best, support. No gripe, I know some consoles do, mostly people coming from PC games, I don't hear of people that have strictly a console using a kbm, why does everyone assume that because someone speaks against kbm that oh they must be garbage, I hear people complain about kbm and so I want to see if there would be a change in the way people play. Bullsh*t
aaaasdff ertgfdd 217	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:10:00 - [43] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. lol Have you tried MKB? It's harder to use than the DS3. Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players. Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find -- short of sniping, forging, and tanking, it's an anchor on your gameplay. I played halo competitively for a few years. I can tell you mouse and kb are easier, once you learn them. I played on pc and used kb m exclusively. Aim without aim assist does have a more refined value and enables more detailed aiming even on much smaller, screens. Here is a video I made back in the day of some competitive Halo on pc. Forgive the montage but notice the precision of the aim. This game had 0 aim assist. Halo 1 pc montage. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
aaaasdff ertgfdd 217	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:12:00 - [44] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Leadfoot ok I bet Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen. Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles. I dont use a keyboard mouse and I do decent in this game. Its not really even an issue. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 679	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:20:00 - [45] - Quote in a game with as bad kit detection as this then M/KB has a clear advantage over a DS3 currently with a keyboard you can run forward using 'W' and sidestep left/right by tapping 'A'/'D' while still running forward full speed, something thats impossible with analogues on the DS3. other than that though if you're a console gamer who has never used a M/KB continuously (like myself) then you wont benefit from using it, just as someone who is so used to M/KB on PC may struggle to adapt to a controller. if i ever snipe i have a blutooth mouse i use and with the new amarr assault i may use it to perch on a roof with my laser and cut heavies down with the still brokenly OP viziam i just want to know if controller support will be as eagerly implemented in Legion on PC as M/KB was on ps3 for DUST? Rolling with the punches
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:25:00 - [46] - Quote Well I hear some people complain, sometimes I die with someone doing the side to side sht fast as hell and not missing a shot and people say it's the kbm so I'd want to see if that's really it I've tried it it's slow when I do with a scout or any other suit. Just want to see if that true, instead of taking someone's word saying that's bullshit that's not it, so we can shut down the conspiracy theory, and see if it's true, half the time when I die it's due to someone doing that, just want to try it. Bullsht
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 205	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:31:00 - [47] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right? and you do understand some if not most of this games best ppl use k/m and **** ppl
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3053	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:40:00 - [48] - Quote Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514. Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.* *No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:45:00 - [49] - Quote So I guess the theory is true, well it's not like y'all bought the game, but they will drop the other half for PC Bullsh*t
aaaasdff ertgfdd 217	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:53:00 - [50] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514. Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.* *No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You think 50% of Dust is kb m? Id say less than 500. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:55:00 - [51] - Quote I concur Bullsh*t
Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 132	Posted - 2014.08.14 18:59:00 - [52] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: I wanted to help, but there is so much illiteracy in this thread that I'm just going to walk away while you people get caught up on your homework. Read a ***** book, you *** mental midgets. How stupid do you feel not knowing how to spell small, simple words? I mean, this is that I had under control by third grade. Some of the words that you morons misspell is appalling. If I have to keep living in this world with you mother ***** sucking up all of the good air, then I'm just going to have to start telling you people about yourselves. God damn, I hope I don't live too much longer. Don't worry dude, you're so old you're guaranteed not to live much longer... ;) How do you kill that which has no life?
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1683	Posted - 2014.08.14 21:53:00 - [53] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Leadfoot ok I bet Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen. Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles. If they would shut KBM down, there would be no change in how much you get owned... ive played with (squad cup) and against the best people on this game and most of these guys use a controller and i was struggling to keep my own with my "albeit" slightly bad version of KBM here Though, its impressive what some of them can do with it, but if they have say 6-8 years of experience with it, you can't get that in a month or 2. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1683	Posted - 2014.08.14 21:55:00 - [54] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right? and you do understand some if not most of this games best ppl use k/m and **** ppl Most KBM players exited on Uprisings arrival, most of the best guys on here use a controller, get your facts straight. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.14 22:29:00 - [55] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Leadfoot ok I bet Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen. Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles. Mouse and keyboard is all about reflexes and muscle memory.. is a completely different way of playing. The only reason why you can compete against it is because CCP have "nerfed" the mouse, so you console kiddies can have a chance. But in the PC...that will be a different story.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2455	Posted - 2014.08.14 22:39:00 - [56] - Quote Any advantage in a shooter, no matter the origin, would be fairly and finally handled by K/D(r) matchmaking. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Beh!
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 04:02:00 - [57] - Quote Ok here we go again, hes got to be sad bringing up kbm, well I brought this up when I had got on earlier and people say they see the difference, and better capabilities, but it seem that everyone is making the switch, see'n alot of dancing in each others face side to side, side to side it's pretty funny when you see them dance offs on a fps. I guess I'm a go buy a kbm to see if its true, I catch on pretty quickly so it wont be that hard, now if start being great as y'all awesome players. And it just so happens the squad cup winner is a kbm user, well how about they try it out when Legion drop since most of y'all will be leaving. Bullsh*t
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1683	Posted - 2014.08.15 08:19:00 - [58] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Ok here we go again, hes got to be sad bringing up kbm, well I brought this up when I had got on earlier and people say they see the difference, and better capabilities, but it seem that everyone is making the switch, see'n alot of dancing in each others face side to side, side to side it's pretty funny when you see them dance offs on a fps. I guess I'm a go buy a kbm to see if its true, I catch on pretty quickly so it wont be that hard, now if start being great as y'all awesome players. And it just so happens the squad cup winner is a kbm user, well how about they try it out when Legion drop since most of y'all will be leaving. 1) My entire Squad Cup team where DS3 users, i was the only exception. 2) When legion drops, this game will most likely be shut down 3) Ill be playing Destiny on PS4 until Legion comes out 4) If you are not a good player with a DS3, changing to KBM will not make you much better It might make mediocre players a tiny bit better, its like players with bad reaction & aim using a heavy suit with 2k ehp to compensate for their lack of reaction speed & near unlimited spray & pray capability so they can now better kill other mediocre players in none heave suits, they will still die against good players and wonder why they die .... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Jotun Izalaru Goonfeet 216	Posted - 2014.08.15 08:23:00 - [59] - Quote I can use both comfortably and k/bm is super bad in Dust. It kind of works for Heavies I guess? That said, k/bm is stupid in PC games too. 1:1 mouse control is terrible.
Thurak1 Psygod9 919	Posted - 2014.08.15 09:01:00 - [60] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: As if not everyone can use a mouse and keyboard. If you're gonna be hardheaded, don't blame everyone else who takes advantage of the right tool for the right job. Damn hammers! Everyone use a screwdriver to nail those nails! Whaaaa! I can't use a mouse / keyboard in my current set up.

Thurak1 Psygod9 919	Posted - 2014.08.15 09:08:00 - [61] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514. Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.* *No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller. Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 10:38:00 - [62] - Quote 1) My entire Squad Cup team where DS3 users, i was the only exception. 2) When legion drops, this game will most likely be shut down 3) Ill be playing Destiny on PS4 until Legion comes out 4) If you are not a good player with a DS3, changing to KBM will not make you much better It might make mediocre players a tiny bit better, its like players with bad reaction & aim using a heavy suit with 2k ehp to compensate for their lack of reaction speed & near unlimited spray & pray capability so they can now better kill other mediocre players in none heave suits, they will still die against good players and wonder why they die ....[/quote] 1) ok 2) true 3) sounds like you'll be have'n fun 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Ok the point is kinda get'n lost, it's just a opportunity to see if it does have a edge, instead of using the same old excuse saying people who think their is are just sad players, this would put it to rest. Bullsh*t
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 10:43:00 - [63] - Quote That was Rei Shepard's quote if your not up on the discussion Bullsh*t
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2061	Posted - 2014.08.15 10:50:00 - [64] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514. Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.* *No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller. Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement. It's very simple. Some of us don't play console shooters. We play shooters on PC. Consoles are for games our satanboxes can't run because there is no PC release. And bluntly most of those aren't worth buying the console for. So what happened is: We download DUST 514 and go to the controls to figure out where all the mapping is. We do a double-take and go HOT DAMN! THIS GAME HAS FAMILIAR INTERFACE! We promptly set the controller aside for Orbital bombardments, and hook up our precious KB/M and never think about trying to learn how to use the ten-butan, dual-stick having abomination, and giggle while you complain about how unfair KB/M is when it's efficacy has been nerfed below the DS3 because people whined. And since we have no desire to cater to the way other people think the world should work, we make the sub-optimal solution work well. And we then farm you for Warpoints. Leading to more NERF KB/M threads for the trillionth time as we bask in our own autistic E-Peen glory.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 10:58:00 - [65] - Quote Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol Bullsh*t
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:14:00 - [66] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot...
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:25:00 - [67] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Big Swool wrote: Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot... Ah..!.. yeah.. i remember now... MAG. Wasn't that the main reason why you nerfed the mouse ? .. to get all that MAG players ? So.. how many you have now ? 7,000 ? 10000 new players ?
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:28:00 - [68] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Big Swool wrote: Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot... Ah..!.. yeah.. i remember now... MAG. Wasn't that the main reason why you nerfed the mouse ? .. to get all that MAG players ? So.. how many you have now ? 7,000 ? 10000 new players ? 364 players online ?.... damn.. i guess that didn't work as planed, huh ?
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:29:00 - [69] - Quote Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion Bullsh*t
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2063	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:30:00 - [70] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Big Swool wrote: Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot... OOPS! GAIZ GAIZ THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE THE GAME FOR YOU... We made it better... please don't leave... Yes, Nerfing the M/KB worked SO very well. Let's repeat the fiasco immediately SURELY THINGS CAN ONLY IMPROVE IF WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING THE EXACT SAME WAY AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS!!!

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2063	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:33:00 - [71] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion it would be better if they used DUST as a mechanics testbed for Legion and TOLD US they were making it into a test bed for legion. What? You want us to take this new weapon and kill each other with it to see if it's viable in Legion? That's a horrible thing, I would never do that to my good friend Arkena..." ZAP ..."Hey that was kinda cool. Let's do it again."
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:33:00 - [72] - Quote I wish the battles were big as MAG's, that was fun Bullsh*t
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2063	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:36:00 - [73] - Quote Big Swool wrote: I wish the battles were big as MAG's, that was fun I wish the battles Were bigger than a squad of infantry with an attached LMG team kicking each other until one falls over.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:41:00 - [74] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion Well.. i'm sure is a reason why they aren't porting the game to PC, and instead they are making a new game call "Legion". Hopefully they planing to start everything from scratch, and then send Dust 514 to the Recycle Bin.. and then empty the Recycle Bin...
VikingKong iBUN Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 127	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:46:00 - [75] - Quote I cant play FPS for ** using KB/M, I'm pressing all the wrong buttons constantly and I always have to stop and think about which key does what, but DS3 just feels right to me. I can totally understand that a lot of people feel the opposite way, so it is best for both options to be available. Which method of user input you decide to use is your choice, it's a matter of opinion. Please *** about one of the countless problems with this game rather than a feature put in place to help the game cater to more than one audience.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:53:00 - [76] - Quote Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sht they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sht, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Bullsh*t
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2065	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:53:00 - [77] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: I cant play FPS for ** using KB/M, I'm pressing all the wrong buttons constantly and I always have to stop and think about which key does what, but DS3 just feels right to me. I can totally understand that a lot of people feel the opposite way, so it is best for both options to be available. Which method of user input you decide to use is your choice, it's a matter of opinion. Please *** about one of the countless problems with this game rather than a feature put in place to help the game cater to more than one audience. Learning a new control interface for gaming takes about a month of dedicated practice. If most games operated off a D-Pad or a flight sim joystick I'd be hell on wheels. I had to learn KB/M about 12 years ago because neither interface was cutting it. I've learned to used console controllers (Modern ones) since, but I detest them. The layout and controls are counterintuitive to me.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:58:00 - [78] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sht they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sht, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 12:00:00 - [79] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Big Swool wrote: Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sht they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sht, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge. Lmao guess I did total mind fux Bullsh*t
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 12:07:00 - [80] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Big Swool wrote: Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sht they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sht, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge. Lmao guess I did total mind fux Rise of Legion .. huh ? Me thinks you knew already....

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 12:14:00 - [81] - Quote I'm fux'n some minds today lol Bullsh*t
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.15 12:25:00 - [82] - Quote Ok so my experiment would probably crush this game more than it already has, but console controller players hey I tried, the topic did get some people's blood pumping, got a feeling I better watch my back on the battle I may be someones main target, I'll be the guy running a Dragonfly fit w/ a Glu tac, most of the time, so don't go side to side on me to much I only have 18 bullets lol Bullsh*t
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3067	Posted - 2014.08.15 15:01:00 - [83] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.15 15:31:00 - [84] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Thurak1 wrote: You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. I actually shock that people still can play with the "Virtual Joystick" simulator that CCP calls "Mouse Support".... I had patience for a while, but eventually i just couldn't play any more...i don't know how you guys do it.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2079	Posted - 2014.08.15 15:34:00 - [85] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Thurak1 wrote: You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. I actually shock that people still can play with the "Virtual Joystick" simulator that CCP calls "Mouse Support".... I had patience for a while, but eventually i just couldn't play any more...i don't know how you guys do it. Being a masochist helps a lot.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1683	Posted - 2014.08.16 09:09:00 - [86] - Quote Big Swool wrote: 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
im squishy Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.08.16 09:19:00 - [87] - Quote Mregomies wrote: My M/kb set cost only 35$ basic USB mouse + Basic Logitech kb. And I did buy new PS3 only for DUST514 my kbm cost $0 (i dont use them on dust) and my PS3 cost $60 brand new when i purchased it 5 years ago. And Dust too buggy to play with or without kbm.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.16 18:54:00 - [88] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Big Swool wrote: 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time. Bullsh*t
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4272	Posted - 2014.08.16 19:04:00 - [89] - Quote The only thing worse than people that whine about proto are people that *** about M/KB after every single death. Level 4 Forum Warrior** Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Thurak1 Psygod9 926	Posted - 2014.08.16 19:07:00 - [90] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514. Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.* *No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller. Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement. It's very simple. Some of us don't play console shooters. We play shooters on PC. Consoles are for games our satanboxes can't run because there is no PC release. And bluntly most of those aren't worth buying the console for. So what happened is: We download DUST 514 and go to the controls to figure out where all the mapping is. We do a double-take and go HOT DAMN! THIS GAME HAS FAMILIAR INTERFACE! We promptly set the controller aside for Orbital bombardments, and hook up our precious KB/M and never think about trying to learn how to use the ten-butan, dual-stick having abomination, and giggle while you complain about how unfair KB/M is when it's efficacy has been nerfed below the DS3 because people whined. And since we have no desire to cater to the way other people think the world should work, we make the sub-optimal solution work well. And we then farm you for Warpoints. Leading to more NERF KB/M threads for the trillionth time as we bask in our own autistic E-Peen glory. Nice dance shoes. Now explain how you "Can't" use a controller. By that i mean what physically makes you unable to use a controller.

Big Swool RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.08.16 19:10:00 - [91] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: The only thing worse than people that whine about proto are people that ***** about M/KB after every single death. So true I agree 100%, you nailed it I'm a print these words and put it above my tv, thanks I see life through a whole new light, my life is changed forever thanxs Bullsh*t
Thurak1 Psygod9 927	Posted - 2014.08.16 19:18:00 - [92] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Thurak1 wrote: You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. Believe it or not i actually bought a broken ps3 (because i am cheap and youtube is full of information some bad but different story ) and repaired it so i could play dust. This ps3 is the first console system i have owned since the nintendo 64 i had as a kid. I would say that it took me about an hour to feel comfortable with the controls. I constantly wish the controls were more responsive and that there was a button to have a precision mode to the controller. Otherwise though it works well. Course the controls seem more responsive in GTA5 but they are totally off and when i switch between games i find myself hitting the wrong buttons at the wrong times for a bit.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2171	Posted - 2014.08.16 22:24:00 - [93] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Nice dance shoes. Now explain how you "Can't" use a controller. By that i mean what physically makes you unable to use a controller. The sensation of bile heaving into the back of my throat as I get ready to vomit from touching the crappy controller stops me.
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2014.08.18 00:24:00 - [94] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Big Swool wrote: 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Bullsh*t
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2014.08.18 00:32:00 - [95] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Big Swool wrote: 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time. Just wondering why would you want to use kbm when they don't give you that opinion, then would that be considered whining, Ight I know you won't be the only one, ok u get'n a kbm for this game makes what u said about kbm seem like just bullshit. Bullsh*t
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1688	Posted - 2014.08.19 15:21:00 - [96] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Big Swool wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Big Swool wrote: 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time. Just wondering why would you want to use kbm when they don't give you that opinion, then would that be considered whining, Ight I know you won't be the only one, ok u get'n a kbm for this game makes what u said about kbm seem like just bullshit. 4 friends are gonna play it, i was at first not gonna bother with it, but one of em bought a Venom X and while it's not nearly as good as my Razor Mouse & Mechanical Keyboard, it is ok, so i took the plunge, but its an FPS game and its most likely gonna be allot of fun, the PVP will be pretty "meh" because its just 6 vs 6. I am not gonna pick up a controller for the "few" games ill ever play on console.....i mean this will be my second game and i doubt ill play anything else on it. a single player games can keep me intrested for about 1 hours, unless its mass effect. So should i reduce my enjoyment of the game by "sucking" at the controller for 6+ months, so you can feel better about yourself or whiners of your kind, or should i play the game with KBM to keep myself entertained, afterall it is my time i am spending on the game right and just Headshot the crap out of you guys? In the end, after some time ill be as good as i would be with the KBM within the limits of the controller and still beat the crap of most people, so should i really spend all that time to get better at a flawed control method ? Look i even turn of the aim-assist for you guys. Sure, its a console, but it's an FPS game first, they should just ban DS3's from shooters. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:33:00 - [97] - Quote Ight ok you make alittle sense well it's all on u but u can't be mad at them for bitching, that was the reason for by idea but in all see it will hurt this game more. Destiny will be over rated like Titan Fall I think with that lame 6v6. Bullsh*t
Thurak1 Psygod9 938	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:52:00 - [98] - Quote Why do people act like there is some giant learning curve to getting used to a ds3? This console is the first one i have owned in decades and it took me maybe a couple hours to get used to using the ds3 over a keyboard and mouse for games.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3157	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:53:00 - [99] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Why do people act like there is some giant learning curve to getting used to a ds3? Because trying to aim a weapon with a joystick is hard as heck. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2165	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:56:00 - [100] - Quote Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. this again.... KBM vs DS3 in Dust isn't the same as it would be on a PC because ofthe horrible gimping CCP has done to the KBM controls. KBM was good back in Chromosome but has been **** since. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!

Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2165	Posted - 2014.08.20 08:00:00 - [101] - Quote Big Swool wrote: I haven't done a fps on a PC, I haven't played on a PC period in years I like controllers that's why I went to with a console, well I can pretty much tell if someone is using a kbm, but to really see I'd like them to try it ,it's just a experiment I'd like to try. Do you think kbm players would still play during that period. I'd like to play them with a controller in there hands and if they did a event with strictly kbm I might go get a set just to try, maybe You know you can use a controller with a PC. Infact, you can use any controller you want. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2165	Posted - 2014.08.20 08:03:00 - [102] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. lol Have you tried MKB? It's harder to use than the DS3. Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players. Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find -- short of sniping, forging, and tanking, it's an anchor on your gameplay. Switched from KBM to controller. The handholding aimassist mode brought my KDR up. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Defy Gravity G.L.O.R.Y 494	Posted - 2014.08.20 08:17:00 - [103] - Quote Sorry guys but i'm on Big Swool's side for this one. This is a console game not a pc game.... However CCP did include functionality of KB/M on here and I doubt they would remove it. BUT the KB/M people cant b.itch about aim assist people BECAUSE most people that have K/BM abuse the poor strafe mechanics this game has to offer. Uhh... Example... Ermm how do I put it..... Now being an expirienced dust player I can tell when a Kay Bee Emm'er is in the match. You'll notice in a 1v1 that this erm* clone is teleporting left and right making them near impossible to track.. Even with Aim Assist. Theres moi argument. All of your questions will be answered Here
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11531	Posted - 2014.08.20 12:59:00 - [104] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: Atiim wrote: Big Swool wrote: How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. You say this as if you think that a DS3 is not more difficult than kbm? added via my DS4 controled PS3. Because it's not. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5251	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:05:00 - [105] - Quote I would not like to get dust on my gold plated gaming mouse USB. Pun intended. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1692	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:35:00 - [106] - Quote Big Swool wrote: Ight ok you make alittle sense well it's all on u but u can't be mad at them for bitching, that was the reason for by idea but in all see it will hurt this game more. Destiny will be over rated like Titan Fall I think with that lame 6v6. Can't really hurt this game more by having announced that it will move to PC, where it rightfully should have been, instead they put it on a console that has as much graphical power as a budget video card from 2005. How could that have backfired!!! /facepalm Anyways, KBM has been screwed over on here, if there has been an advantage, it would have been before Uprising, i still remember patch day well... I went from 30-40/3 to something like 3-6/12 and couldn't hit nuthin at all, i remember having reload fest's and running out of ammo trying to kill 1 guy, i still have the email from a DS3 user about feeling bad to see far they screwed us KBM up the *ss on that day. They adjusted it to workable levels, but it took em 2 months and even then when i come from PC to Dust i need a few games to adjust to the oddness of dusts aiming mechanics, it all feels extremely off kilter, hell PS4 Blacklight with a Venom X feels better then Dusts "native" kbm support. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Big Swool RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2014.08.25 15:41:00 - [107] - Quote Yea it got put on life support after that announcement blueberries are probably the only one still spending money on this, this game is really a proto type, and a game recruitment scheme. I've heard the complaints from both sides and everyone says their controls are flawed really sounds like CCP is the problem lol Bullsh*t
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 262	Posted - 2014.08.25 18:17:00 - [108] - Quote M/KB is only an advantage when strafing?! A lot of M/KB players use it as a crutch because they lack tactics and positioning skills?! They also lack team work skills, and don't play well in squad so they often get caught with their pants down in cqc, and strafe like hell to get away?! When playing on controllers you can't strafe that well so you end up having to work in teams, flank, and monitor your surroundings better. That's why most M/KB players are scouts who also run vehicles?! They have a solo PC gamer mentality. Nothing wrong with that, but a word of advice to you guys. Stop running slam into my assault rifle without checking the position out first! Controller players, especially assaults, stop trying to go head to head on every engagement! Flank the lil bugger! "Anybody order chaos?"
dzizur 6 dayz 85	Posted - 2014.08.25 18:44:00 - [109] - Quote well I don't give a flying flux anymore, as Rei mentioned, after one of the patches it all went downhill. I used m/kb setup from the begining in this game (also I'm mainly a PC player) and went pretty ok (for a noob in a scout suit back then :P). After all the changes (changing kb/m support, making AA god-like) I gave a try with the DS3 and have been using it ever since (apart from sniping, though!). I'm very rarely using it now, only when my DS battery is flat and I'm doing logi work. I've noticed it's very hard to get a good sensitivity when using various weapons (different for shotguning/knives/cqc , sniping , running with a assault rifles). Apart from that, frames per second in dust are so unstable that sometimes its just a miracle to shoot someone, while with a DS I manage to shoot people behind walls, while reloading (da fuq?) or just while actually missing the target with the reticle. Although those miracles could be explained with lag, I've never ecountered them while using m/kb, but as I said, I've been rarely using it lately. And strafing with m/kb being faster/better - didn't we go through this some time or another?
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1297	Posted - 2014.08.25 20:03:00 - [110] - Quote I haven't used the KB/M to play since chromosome (well I've tried it after each patch since then but immediately go back to the DS3) so go ahead and remove it as a controller. The only thing the keyboard is good for, is bullshitting with the locals. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Kill Scotty



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