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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:54:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:Controller is for Dropship and m/kb is for infantry i do fine as logi with m/kb
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:55:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem.
Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion.
So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's
no one buys dust..
i'm not a KBM or PC player but your whine and ad homs are doing nothing to salvage your thread.. stop blaming KBM or the players who use it on your own failure.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult.
How does taking away a control scheme that we are used to and replacing it with one we never used, gets you to gauge how good we actually are? If you give a DS3 user a KBM setup, they do not instantly increase in skill you know.
I would suggest you look up a flash game to test your reaction speed as most people sit around 0.23-0.27ms on average anyone with a 0.15ms average will still own you when they get used to the controller.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:39:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Big Swool wrote:Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem.
Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion.
So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's no one buys dust.. i'm not a KBM or PC player but your whine and ad homs are doing nothing to salvage your thread.. stop blaming KBM or the players who use it on your own failure.
We'll I wasn't whining if you read everything that was read was typed you would of got the point. Just something I'd want to see.
Bullsh*t
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:49:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Atiim wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. How does taking away a control scheme that we are used to and replacing it with one we never used, gets you to gauge how good we actually are? If you give a DS3 user a KBM setup, they do not instantly increase in skill you know. I would suggest you look up a flash game to test your reaction speed as most people sit around 0.23-0.27ms on average anyone with a 0.15ms average will still own you when they get used to the controller. I don't see any reason to get better with a DS3, its a flawed control for FPS games, why bother getting better with it ? I'm not suggesting that anyone should be forced to use DS3 over KB/M, nor am I suggesting that KB/M is superior to DS3 (it's actually not unless your Sniping or FGing).
You're argument should be placed against the OP.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:51:00 -
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Ight Rei yea I pretty much know kbm players don't play with controller I want to see if there is a difference in the game if you take that setup out for a short amount of time, I guess it depends on who you ask if it makes them better, I don't have problem with reaction, we'll if everyone had the ds3 then we'd all have the same flaw.
Bullsh*t
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:25:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay.
lol
Have you tried MKB?
It's harder to use than the DS3.
Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players.
Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:32:00 -
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What about if CCP makes Dust 514 a PC game so we can see how good this Console kiddies truly are ?...Just the mouse and keyboard ... no aimbots and crap like that.... oh... wait... they already doing that.... |
Patrlck 56
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:48:00 -
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I've used a controller for so long that I can't do **** with a mouse and keyboard anymore. :'( |
aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:56:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. PS3 recognizes mouse and keyboard as a valid in put method. PCs recognize controllers as a valid input method. Mouse and keyboard does not get aim assist. Im not sure exactly what your gripe is? Do you think consoles dont use mouse and keyboards? They didnt back on like Atari, but ever since, the first nintendos and things like the POWER GLOVE, there have been alternative input methods.
Would your restrictions also apply to Move controllers? What about people who are handicapped? Are theynot supposed to use their needed input method to participate? Heres a clue you need to get. Its not the enemy controller that is the problem, its yours and the thumbs connected to it. Get a rep tool and do what no skill does best, support.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:58:00 -
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Leadfoot ok I bet
Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen.
Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles.
Bullsh*t
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:08:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. PS3 recognizes mouse and keyboard as a valid in put method. PCs recognize controllers as a valid input method. Mouse and keyboard does not get aim assist. Im not sure exactly what your gripe is? Do you think consoles dont use mouse and keyboards? They didnt back on like Atari, but ever since, the first nintendos and things like the POWER GLOVE, there have been alternative input methods. Would your restrictions also apply to Move controllers? What about people who are handicapped? Are theynot supposed to use their needed input method to participate? Heres a clue you need to get. Its not the enemy controller that is the problem, its yours and the thumbs connected to it. Get a rep tool and do what no skill does best, support.
No gripe, I know some consoles do, mostly people coming from PC games, I don't hear of people that have strictly a console using a kbm, why does everyone assume that because someone speaks against kbm that oh they must be garbage, I hear people complain about kbm and so I want to see if there would be a change in the way people play.
Bullsh*t
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:10:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. lol Have you tried MKB? It's harder to use than the DS3. Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players. Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find -- short of sniping, forging, and tanking, it's an anchor on your gameplay.
I played halo competitively for a few years. I can tell you mouse and kb are easier, once you learn them. I played on pc and used kb m exclusively. Aim without aim assist does have a more refined value and enables more detailed aiming even on much smaller, screens. Here is a video I made back in the day of some competitive Halo on pc. Forgive the montage but notice the precision of the aim. This game had 0 aim assist. Halo 1 pc montage.
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:12:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Leadfoot ok I bet
Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen.
Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles. I dont use a keyboard mouse and I do decent in this game. Its not really even an issue.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:20:00 -
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in a game with as bad kit detection as this then M/KB has a clear advantage over a DS3 currently
with a keyboard you can run forward using 'W' and sidestep left/right by tapping 'A'/'D' while still running forward full speed, something thats impossible with analogues on the DS3. other than that though if you're a console gamer who has never used a M/KB continuously (like myself) then you wont benefit from using it, just as someone who is so used to M/KB on PC may struggle to adapt to a controller. if i ever snipe i have a blutooth mouse i use and with the new amarr assault i may use it to perch on a roof with my laser and cut heavies down with the still brokenly OP viziam
i just want to know if controller support will be as eagerly implemented in Legion on PC as M/KB was on ps3 for DUST?
Rolling with the punches
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:25:00 -
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Well I hear some people complain, sometimes I die with someone doing the side to side sh*t fast as hell and not missing a shot and people say it's the kbm so I'd want to see if that's really it I've tried it it's slow when I do with a scout or any other suit. Just want to see if that true, instead of taking someone's word saying that's bullshit that's not it, so we can shut down the conspiracy theory, and see if it's true, half the time when I die it's due to someone doing that, just want to try it.
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:31:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right? and you do understand some if not most of this games best ppl use k/m and **** ppl |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:40:00 -
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Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514.
Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.*
*No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:45:00 -
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So I guess the theory is true, well it's not like y'all bought the game, but they will drop the other half for PC
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:53:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514.
Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.*
*No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You think 50% of Dust is kb m? Id say less than 500.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/
Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:55:00 -
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I concur
Bullsh*t
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:59:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:I wanted to help, but there is so much illiteracy in this thread that I'm just going to walk away while you people get caught up on your homework.
Read a ******* book, you ******* mental midgets. How stupid do you feel not knowing how to spell small, simple words? I mean, this is **** that I had under control by third grade. Some of the words that you morons misspell is appalling. If I have to keep living in this world with you mother ******* sucking up all of the good air, then I'm just going to have to start telling you people about yourselves.
God damn, I hope I don't live too much longer.
Don't worry dude, you're so old you're guaranteed not to live much longer... ;)
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:53:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Leadfoot ok I bet
Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen.
Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles.
If they would shut KBM down, there would be no change in how much you get owned...
ive played with (squad cup) and against the best people on this game and most of these guys use a controller and i was struggling to keep my own with my "albeit" slightly bad version of KBM here
Though, its impressive what some of them can do with it, but if they have say 6-8 years of experience with it, you can't get that in a month or 2.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:55:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right? and you do understand some if not most of this games best ppl use k/m and **** ppl
Most KBM players exited on Uprisings arrival, most of the best guys on here use a controller, get your facts straight.
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"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:29:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Leadfoot ok I bet
Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen.
Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles.
Mouse and keyboard is all about reflexes and muscle memory.. is a completely different way of playing. The only reason why you can compete against it is because CCP have "nerfed" the mouse, so you console kiddies can have a chance. But in the PC...that will be a different story. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:39:00 -
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Any advantage in a shooter, no matter the origin, would be fairly and finally handled by K/D(r) matchmaking.
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game.
Beh!
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.15 04:02:00 -
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Ok here we go again, hes got to be sad bringing up kbm, well I brought this up when I had got on earlier and people say they see the difference, and better capabilities, but it seem that everyone is making the switch, see'n alot of dancing in each others face side to side, side to side it's pretty funny when you see them dance offs on a fps. I guess I'm a go buy a kbm to see if its true, I catch on pretty quickly so it wont be that hard, now if start being great as y'all awesome players. And it just so happens the squad cup winner is a kbm user, well how about they try it out when Legion drop since most of y'all will be leaving.
Bullsh*t
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.08.15 08:19:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Ok here we go again, hes got to be sad bringing up kbm, well I brought this up when I had got on earlier and people say they see the difference, and better capabilities, but it seem that everyone is making the switch, see'n alot of dancing in each others face side to side, side to side it's pretty funny when you see them dance offs on a fps. I guess I'm a go buy a kbm to see if its true, I catch on pretty quickly so it wont be that hard, now if start being great as y'all awesome players. And it just so happens the squad cup winner is a kbm user, well how about they try it out when Legion drop since most of y'all will be leaving.
1) My entire Squad Cup team where DS3 users, i was the only exception. 2) When legion drops, this game will most likely be shut down 3) Ill be playing Destiny on PS4 until Legion comes out 4) If you are not a good player with a DS3, changing to KBM will not make you much better
It might make mediocre players a tiny bit better, its like players with bad reaction & aim using a heavy suit with 2k ehp to compensate for their lack of reaction speed & near unlimited spray & pray capability so they can now better kill other mediocre players in none heave suits, they will still die against good players and wonder why they die ....
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.08.15 08:23:00 -
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I can use both comfortably and k/bm is super bad in Dust. It kind of works for Heavies I guess?
That said, k/bm is stupid in PC games too. 1:1 mouse control is terrible. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:01:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:As if not everyone can use a mouse and keyboard. If you're gonna be hardheaded, don't blame everyone else who takes advantage of the right tool for the right job.
Damn hammers! Everyone use a screwdriver to nail those nails! Whaaaa! I can't use a mouse / keyboard in my current set up. |
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