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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2014.08.13 13:20:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay.
An even battle does not excist, once you get rid of KBM, youl want to get rid of teams, then when you get rid of teams, proto equipment has to go, everyones EHP needs to be the same and everyone eventually will be using 1 and the same gun, vehicles are removed and then vantage points are removed, eventually SP is gone so that when its just you 1 vs 1 in a boxed room get your ass handed to you because he is sitting at a desk with a 1ms gaming monitor and you are hanging in a couch 4m away from your TV screen that has too much input lag....
Its always gonna be something to whine about...
Just get better at FPS games or find another game genre to play, noone is keeping you from spending 100$ on a kbm setup when the rest of us had to buy a 250$ console to play 1 game, we just happened to have our KBM setup already.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 11:40:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:Big Swool wrote:Ok Mikey your saying there is no difference right, then just trying it out shouldn't be a problem.
Mregomies ok thanks for the quote on kb/m but your missing my point, oh and I know where this subject is go'n lol, I wonder would you have bought it if was a true console game and didn't have the opinion for kb/m probably not you would of been on here telling them to give you that opinion.
So I'm guessing everyone who commented is a kb/m player and mostly just plays PC's True. I'm old PC player (from counter strike 1.5 --> CS:source) and I can't shoot or even move with controller. Best thing in consolegames is that everybody has a same hardware and framerates.
Best thing in my mind is the peace of mind you get that the other guy is not playing with a wallhack/aimbit combo, i can live with they having aim assist and i am sorry that most people on consoles are using an inefficient control method, but lately on PC it just aint much fun.
Its just too obvious sometimes on PC fps games, beat a guy like he doesnt excist, next day you come across the same guy and can't land a bullet on him before he headshots you while you get the drop on him from behind.
Or they pm you to ask what aimbot i r using, they want to get the same one....at some point 70% of the playerbase in War Z was using aimbots & wallhacks...guy clips through the wall, headshots me and my 5 friends before we can react...
Stuff like that aint happening on consoles, its sad but playing FPS games on the pc, its sad but bad people tend to run cheats instead of trying to get better.
The reason we KBM guys are here is because Dust 514 got promoted to allow for native KBM players to play, if they had not promoted that, we would not be here, besides, native control got canned when Uprising Hit, we are all playing with a virtual DS3 overlay in front of our KBM, so we get ****** twice....no aim assist, no native KBM support....all KBM players are playing with crutches, balls nailed to the floor and hands chopped off. Bad kbm players on dust are still just as bad.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 12:03:00 -
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If they cant contain cheaters on Dust Legion, it will cause the game to be ruined, imagine losing proto-suit after proto-suit in isk against a bunch of cheaters.
I am not sure why they didnt opt for a PS4 option, maybe because of Destiny..i dunno
PS: Even in the end of War Z, all 5 of my friends where using Wallhacks & Aimbots, they said it was needed to play the game, i quit that day and 5 days later they all got banned, bought a new account and /repeat.
Thats 5 friends that were so b*tthurt from the cheaters that they were converted to one...ill never understand.
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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:49:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:I wanted to help, but there is so much illiteracy in this thread that I'm just going to walk away while you people get caught up on your homework.
Read a ******* book, you ******* mental midgets. How stupid do you feel not knowing how to spell small, simple words? I mean, this is **** that I had under control by third grade. Some of the words that you morons misspell is appalling. If I have to keep living in this world with you mother ******* sucking up all of the good air, then I'm just going to have to start telling you people about yourselves.
God damn, I hope I don't live too much longer.
Its awesome that you can spell 100% correctly....but some of us do not care about that on a forum.
Besides, better spelling don't make you better at an FPS game.
RYN0CER0S wrote:Big Swool wrote:You must be a editor for you local newspaper, sorry not using the proper writing didn't mean to offend, I'm a double check next time, so next time it doesn't take so long for a *** like yourself to long to catch on to what's being typed I'm a **** by choice. You and all of these other idiots are stupid by default. Who do you think feels better about their situation? If you want to extend a conversation with somebody that may have the intelligence to assist you, I'd suggest trying to look like you wouldn't be a waste of efforts. It's simple ******* spelling. Not grammar or punctuation. I'm talking about some remedial skills here, so I understand your feelings being hurt, but you have the power to fix it.
aaaand i still dont care that you excist...
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult.
How does taking away a control scheme that we are used to and replacing it with one we never used, gets you to gauge how good we actually are? If you give a DS3 user a KBM setup, they do not instantly increase in skill you know.
I would suggest you look up a flash game to test your reaction speed as most people sit around 0.23-0.27ms on average anyone with a 0.15ms average will still own you when they get used to the controller.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:53:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Leadfoot ok I bet
Panther CCP will make it PC, Legion,I guess your game would go straight to sh*t if they tried it, I don't use a aimbot, they can stop that at the same time lets see what will happen.
Boy just wanting to see how the battle might change with a temporary shutdown to see if there is difference is get'n lonely lol, guess I'm the only true console gamer that gets on the forums. Me vs Eve players lol They don't have to shut it down for your PC battles.
If they would shut KBM down, there would be no change in how much you get owned...
ive played with (squad cup) and against the best people on this game and most of these guys use a controller and i was struggling to keep my own with my "albeit" slightly bad version of KBM here
Though, its impressive what some of them can do with it, but if they have say 6-8 years of experience with it, you can't get that in a month or 2.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:55:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:You do realize that KBM is not even effective in Dust as opposed to a regular PC game, right? and you do understand some if not most of this games best ppl use k/m and **** ppl
Most KBM players exited on Uprisings arrival, most of the best guys on here use a controller, get your facts straight.
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Posted - 2014.08.15 08:19:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Ok here we go again, hes got to be sad bringing up kbm, well I brought this up when I had got on earlier and people say they see the difference, and better capabilities, but it seem that everyone is making the switch, see'n alot of dancing in each others face side to side, side to side it's pretty funny when you see them dance offs on a fps. I guess I'm a go buy a kbm to see if its true, I catch on pretty quickly so it wont be that hard, now if start being great as y'all awesome players. And it just so happens the squad cup winner is a kbm user, well how about they try it out when Legion drop since most of y'all will be leaving.
1) My entire Squad Cup team where DS3 users, i was the only exception. 2) When legion drops, this game will most likely be shut down 3) Ill be playing Destiny on PS4 until Legion comes out 4) If you are not a good player with a DS3, changing to KBM will not make you much better
It might make mediocre players a tiny bit better, its like players with bad reaction & aim using a heavy suit with 2k ehp to compensate for their lack of reaction speed & near unlimited spray & pray capability so they can now better kill other mediocre players in none heave suits, they will still die against good players and wonder why they die ....
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Posted - 2014.08.16 09:09:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first.
If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game.
Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters.
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:21:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Big Swool wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time. Just wondering why would you want to use kbm when they don't give you that opinion, then would that be considered whining, Ight I know you won't be the only one, ok u get'n a kbm for this game makes what u said about kbm seem like just bullshit.
4 friends are gonna play it, i was at first not gonna bother with it, but one of em bought a Venom X and while it's not nearly as good as my Razor Mouse & Mechanical Keyboard, it is ok, so i took the plunge, but its an FPS game and its most likely gonna be allot of fun, the PVP will be pretty "meh" because its just 6 vs 6.
I am not gonna pick up a controller for the "few" games ill ever play on console.....i mean this will be my second game and i doubt ill play anything else on it. a single player games can keep me intrested for about 1 hours, unless its mass effect.
So should i reduce my enjoyment of the game by "sucking" at the controller for 6+ months, so you can feel better about yourself or whiners of your kind, or should i play the game with KBM to keep myself entertained, afterall it is my time i am spending on the game right and just Headshot the crap out of you guys?
In the end, after some time ill be as good as i would be with the KBM within the limits of the controller and still beat the crap of most people, so should i really spend all that time to get better at a flawed control method ?
Look i even turn of the aim-assist for you guys.
Sure, its a console, but it's an FPS game first, they should just ban DS3's from shooters.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:35:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Ight ok you make alittle sense well it's all on u but u can't be mad at them for bitching, that was the reason for by idea but in all see it will hurt this game more. Destiny will be over rated like Titan Fall I think with that lame 6v6.
Can't really hurt this game more by having announced that it will move to PC, where it rightfully should have been, instead they put it on a console that has as much graphical power as a budget video card from 2005.
How could that have backfired!!!
/facepalm
Anyways, KBM has been screwed over on here, if there has been an advantage, it would have been before Uprising, i still remember patch day well...
I went from 30-40/3 to something like 3-6/12 and couldn't hit nuthin at all, i remember having reload fest's and running out of ammo trying to kill 1 guy, i still have the email from a DS3 user about feeling bad to see far they screwed us KBM up the *ss on that day.
They adjusted it to workable levels, but it took em 2 months and even then when i come from PC to Dust i need a few games to adjust to the oddness of dusts aiming mechanics, it all feels extremely off kilter, hell PS4 Blacklight with a Venom X feels better then Dusts "native" kbm support.
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