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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:08:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514.
Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.*
*No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller.
Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement. |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:38:00 -
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1) My entire Squad Cup team where DS3 users, i was the only exception. 2) When legion drops, this game will most likely be shut down 3) Ill be playing Destiny on PS4 until Legion comes out 4) If you are not a good player with a DS3, changing to KBM will not make you much better
It might make mediocre players a tiny bit better, its like players with bad reaction & aim using a heavy suit with 2k ehp to compensate for their lack of reaction speed & near unlimited spray & pray capability so they can now better kill other mediocre players in none heave suits, they will still die against good players and wonder why they die ....[/quote]
1) ok 2) true 3) sounds like you'll be have'n fun 4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Ok the point is kinda get'n lost, it's just a opportunity to see if it does have a edge, instead of using the same old excuse saying people who think their is are just sad players, this would put it to rest.
Bullsh*t
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:43:00 -
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That was Rei Shepard's quote if your not up on the discussion
Bullsh*t
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2061
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:50:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514.
Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.*
*No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller. Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement.
It's very simple. Some of us don't play console shooters. We play shooters on PC. Consoles are for games our satanboxes can't run because there is no PC release. And bluntly most of those aren't worth buying the console for.
So what happened is: We download DUST 514 and go to the controls to figure out where all the mapping is. We do a double-take and go HOT DAMN! THIS GAME HAS FAMILIAR INTERFACE! We promptly set the controller aside for Orbital bombardments, and hook up our precious KB/M and never think about trying to learn how to use the ten-butan, dual-stick having abomination, and giggle while you complain about how unfair KB/M is when it's efficacy has been nerfed below the DS3 because people whined.
And since we have no desire to cater to the way other people think the world should work, we make the sub-optimal solution work well. And we then farm you for Warpoints. Leading to more NERF KB/M threads for the trillionth time as we bask in our own autistic E-Peen glory. |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:58:00 -
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Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol
Bullsh*t
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:14:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol
They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that....
Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot... |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:25:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Big Swool wrote:Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot...
Ah..!.. yeah.. i remember now... MAG.
Wasn't that the main reason why you nerfed the mouse ? .. to get all that MAG players ? So.. how many you have now ? 7,000 ? 10000 new players ? |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:28:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Big Swool wrote:Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot... Ah..!.. yeah.. i remember now... MAG. Wasn't that the main reason why you nerfed the mouse ? .. to get all that MAG players ? So.. how many you have now ? 7,000 ? 10000 new players ?
364 players online ?.... damn.. i guess that didn't work as planed, huh ? |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:29:00 -
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Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion
Bullsh*t
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2063
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:30:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Big Swool wrote:Same old excuse again, no one said nerf it, or get rid of it permanently, but ok, I'll say what you want me to kbm is OP lol They lost over half the player-base last time they nerfed the mouse...with the "This is a Console Game" excuse. They thought that it will be more people playing if they did that.... Anyway... how is that working for you CCP ? Got all that 1000's of players from that other game ?... what is the name?... i forgot...
OOPS!
GAIZ GAIZ THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE THE GAME FOR YOU...
We made it better...
please don't leave...
Yes, Nerfing the M/KB worked SO very well.
Let's repeat the fiasco immediately SURELY THINGS CAN ONLY IMPROVE IF WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING THE EXACT SAME WAY AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS!!! |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2063
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:33:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion
it would be better if they used DUST as a mechanics testbed for Legion and TOLD US they were making it into a test bed for legion.
What? You want us to take this new weapon and kill each other with it to see if it's viable in Legion? That's a horrible thing, I would never do that to my good friend Arkena..." *ZAP* ..."Hey that was kinda cool. Let's do it again." |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:33:00 -
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I wish the battles were big as MAG's, that was fun
Bullsh*t
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2063
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:36:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:I wish the battles were big as MAG's, that was fun
I wish the battles Were bigger than a squad of infantry with an attached LMG team kicking each other until one falls over. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:41:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Those players just went back into space, there in a better place now, I'm a burn a candle for them later. Well the game doesn't get the best reviews from critics, and other games come out. Then they dropped the Legion bomb and their went more people and more critics. I do for the most part enjoy the game personally. But I find they are to focused on the wrong thing. Ok I want to do a experiment this game is a experiment it's pretty much a rough draft for Legion
Well.. i'm sure is a reason why they aren't porting the game to PC, and instead they are making a new game call "Legion". Hopefully they planing to start everything from scratch, and then send Dust 514 to the Recycle Bin.. and then empty the Recycle Bin... |
VikingKong iBUN
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:46:00 -
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I cant play FPS for **** using KB/M, I'm pressing all the wrong buttons constantly and I always have to stop and think about which key does what, but DS3 just feels right to me. I can totally understand that a lot of people feel the opposite way, so it is best for both options to be available. Which method of user input you decide to use is your choice, it's a matter of opinion. Please ***** about one of the countless problems with this game rather than a feature put in place to help the game cater to more than one audience. |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:53:00 -
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Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sh*t they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sh*t, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)???
Bullsh*t
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2065
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:53:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:I cant play FPS for **** using KB/M, I'm pressing all the wrong buttons constantly and I always have to stop and think about which key does what, but DS3 just feels right to me. I can totally understand that a lot of people feel the opposite way, so it is best for both options to be available. Which method of user input you decide to use is your choice, it's a matter of opinion. Please ***** about one of the countless problems with this game rather than a feature put in place to help the game cater to more than one audience.
Learning a new control interface for gaming takes about a month of dedicated practice. If most games operated off a D-Pad or a flight sim joystick I'd be hell on wheels. I had to learn KB/M about 12 years ago because neither interface was cutting it.
I've learned to used console controllers (Modern ones) since, but I detest them. The layout and controls are counterintuitive to me. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:58:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sh*t they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sh*t, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)???
Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:00:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Big Swool wrote:Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sh*t they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sh*t, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge. Lmao guess I did total mind fux
Bullsh*t
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:07:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Big Swool wrote:Yea most likely, but you think the player base will grow when they make the switch or pretty much have the same people from Eve, they made Dust514 to fund Legion and try and recruit people to PC, that's only reason I see they would switch to PC, that's why I'd want to try my idea, sh*t they about to lose even more players when Destiny drops then when BF and MW drop their sh*t, Legion I think will drop with that new Eve game comes out, maybe. And was it a coincidence that the Legion bomb was dropped in May 2014 (5/14)??? Damn... did you just crack the 514 mystery ? Dusted in 5 / 14... and from the ashes of the Phoenix Legion will emerge. Lmao guess I did total mind fux
Rise of Legion .. huh ? Me thinks you knew already.... |
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:14:00 -
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I'm fux'n some minds today lol
Bullsh*t
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:25:00 -
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Ok so my experiment would probably crush this game more than it already has, but console controller players hey I tried, the topic did get some people's blood pumping, got a feeling I better watch my back on the battle I may be someones main target, I'll be the guy running a Dragonfly fit w/ a Glu tac, most of the time, so don't go side to side on me to much I only have 18 bullets lol
Bullsh*t
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3067
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:01:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console.
I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.)
I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1212
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:31:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Thurak1 wrote:You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this.
I actually shock that people still can play with the "Virtual Joystick" simulator that CCP calls "Mouse Support"....
I had patience for a while, but eventually i just couldn't play any more...i don't know how you guys do it. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2079
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:34:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thurak1 wrote:You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. I actually shock that people still can play with the "Virtual Joystick" simulator that CCP calls "Mouse Support".... I had patience for a while, but eventually i just couldn't play any more...i don't know how you guys do it.
Being a masochist helps a lot. |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1683
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Posted - 2014.08.16 09:09:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first.
If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game.
Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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im squishy
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.08.16 09:19:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:My M/kb set cost only 35$ basic USB mouse + Basic Logitech kb. And I did buy new PS3 only for DUST514 my kbm cost $0 (i dont use them on dust) and my PS3 cost $60 brand new when i purchased it 5 years ago. And Dust too buggy to play with or without kbm. |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:54:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters.
Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time.
Bullsh*t
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4272
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:04:00 -
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The only thing worse than people that whine about proto are people that ***** about M/KB after every single death.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Thurak1
Psygod9
926
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:07:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Thurak1 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Since Legion is coming and hence balancing for controllers are a waste of time and effort... I'll pass on desire to just remove controller support from DUST 514.
Seriously, like half the game plays with keyboard and mouse. In my case, I can't actually play with a controller at all. CCP isn't going to drop half it's players to make you happy. It's not happening, get over it.*
*No actual statistics were in this post, I don't know those numbers. You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. How is it even possible to have the dedicated space required for a keyboard and mouse and not be possible to use a controller. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't most keyboards significantly larger than a controller? Clearly if you have room for a keyboard you have room if you moved the keyboard to rest both hands on said surface and comfortably hold a controller. Maybe your statement is more a reflection of how low your opinion is of the player base thinking that we would just blindly buy such a statement. It's very simple. Some of us don't play console shooters. We play shooters on PC. Consoles are for games our satanboxes can't run because there is no PC release. And bluntly most of those aren't worth buying the console for. So what happened is: We download DUST 514 and go to the controls to figure out where all the mapping is. We do a double-take and go HOT DAMN! THIS GAME HAS FAMILIAR INTERFACE! We promptly set the controller aside for Orbital bombardments, and hook up our precious KB/M and never think about trying to learn how to use the ten-butan, dual-stick having abomination, and giggle while you complain about how unfair KB/M is when it's efficacy has been nerfed below the DS3 because people whined. And since we have no desire to cater to the way other people think the world should work, we make the sub-optimal solution work well. And we then farm you for Warpoints. Leading to more NERF KB/M threads for the trillionth time as we bask in our own autistic E-Peen glory. Nice dance shoes. Now explain how you "Can't" use a controller. By that i mean what physically makes you unable to use a controller. |
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