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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:The only thing worse than people that whine about proto are people that ***** about M/KB after every single death.
So true I agree 100%, you nailed it I'm a print these words and put it above my tv, thanks I see life through a whole new light, my life is changed forever thanxs
Bullsh*t
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Thurak1 wrote:You "can't" play with a controller at all? Really? I am very curious about this set up where somehow it is literally impossible to use a controller which actually came as part of the original equipment for the console. I am not capable of controlling a character in an FPS with thumbsticks. (It kinda mystifies me anyone is.) I bought the console solely for DUST, solely because it had keyboard and mouse support. Removing keyboard/mouse support would be removing me from the game, as with probably thousands of others. *Again, I don't have actual numbers on this. Believe it or not i actually bought a broken ps3 (because i am cheap and youtube is full of information some bad but different story ) and repaired it so i could play dust. This ps3 is the first console system i have owned since the nintendo 64 i had as a kid. I would say that it took me about an hour to feel comfortable with the controls. I constantly wish the controls were more responsive and that there was a button to have a precision mode to the controller. Otherwise though it works well. Course the controls seem more responsive in GTA5 but they are totally off and when i switch between games i find myself hitting the wrong buttons at the wrong times for a bit. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:24:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote: Nice dance shoes. Now explain how you "Can't" use a controller. By that i mean what physically makes you unable to use a controller.
The sensation of bile heaving into the back of my throat as I get ready to vomit from touching the crappy controller stops me. |
Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:24:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters.
Bullsh*t
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:32:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time.
Just wondering why would you want to use kbm when they don't give you that opinion, then would that be considered whining, Ight I know you won't be the only one, ok u get'n a kbm for this game makes what u said about kbm seem like just bullshit.
Bullsh*t
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:21:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Big Swool wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Big Swool wrote:
4) well I'm not saying it will but if I am better with it, I'd wonder if it does give a edge, I probably won't, but maybe, so your bringing your kbm to Destiny just wondering, not trying to nag
Spend 400$ on a ps4 just for Destiny and 100$ for a venom X converter then another 100$ for the game, though i won't be running the Aim assist that comes with the game, already tried how the assist feels in Blacklight, it throws of my precise aim or when 2 people cross each other, it all of a sudden tracks the guy you don't wanna shoot first. If Destiny would be on PC, idd play it there, got a PC with 4x R9 280X from Asus DirectCU II TOP cards in it, sitting here not doing much FPS games as of late, but sadly its a console only game. Ill be very happy when Legion hits, no more DS3 whiners to content with, i just hope CCP can deal with the cheaters. Ight so Destiny doesn't give you the opinion to kbm, personally I don't see why you'd spend all that for one game, I'd just wait for Legion, I'm not get'n it, ds3 whiners have their reasons, CCP won't really care it's if who's playing can deal with them, I wonder if the creators of MAG are go'n to drop a game on ps4, and does any one still play MAG, I still have the game just haven't pop'd it in for a long time. Just wondering why would you want to use kbm when they don't give you that opinion, then would that be considered whining, Ight I know you won't be the only one, ok u get'n a kbm for this game makes what u said about kbm seem like just bullshit.
4 friends are gonna play it, i was at first not gonna bother with it, but one of em bought a Venom X and while it's not nearly as good as my Razor Mouse & Mechanical Keyboard, it is ok, so i took the plunge, but its an FPS game and its most likely gonna be allot of fun, the PVP will be pretty "meh" because its just 6 vs 6.
I am not gonna pick up a controller for the "few" games ill ever play on console.....i mean this will be my second game and i doubt ill play anything else on it. a single player games can keep me intrested for about 1 hours, unless its mass effect.
So should i reduce my enjoyment of the game by "sucking" at the controller for 6+ months, so you can feel better about yourself or whiners of your kind, or should i play the game with KBM to keep myself entertained, afterall it is my time i am spending on the game right and just Headshot the crap out of you guys?
In the end, after some time ill be as good as i would be with the KBM within the limits of the controller and still beat the crap of most people, so should i really spend all that time to get better at a flawed control method ?
Look i even turn of the aim-assist for you guys.
Sure, its a console, but it's an FPS game first, they should just ban DS3's from shooters.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:33:00 -
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Ight ok you make alittle sense well it's all on u but u can't be mad at them for bitching, that was the reason for by idea but in all see it will hurt this game more. Destiny will be over rated like Titan Fall I think with that lame 6v6.
Bullsh*t
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:52:00 -
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Why do people act like there is some giant learning curve to getting used to a ds3? This console is the first one i have owned in decades and it took me maybe a couple hours to get used to using the ds3 over a keyboard and mouse for games.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:53:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Why do people act like there is some giant learning curve to getting used to a ds3?
Because trying to aim a weapon with a joystick is hard as heck.
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2165
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:56:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay.
this again....
KBM vs DS3 in Dust isn't the same as it would be on a PC because ofthe horrible gimping CCP has done to the KBM controls. KBM was good back in Chromosome but has been **** since.
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.20 08:00:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:I haven't done a fps on a PC, I haven't played on a PC period in years I like controllers that's why I went to with a console, well I can pretty much tell if someone is using a kbm, but to really see I'd like them to try it ,it's just a experiment I'd like to try. Do you think kbm players would still play during that period. I'd like to play them with a controller in there hands and if they did a event with strictly kbm I might go get a set just to try, maybe
You know you can use a controller with a PC. Infact, you can use any controller you want.
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.20 08:03:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. Now I know the argument CCP is a PC company but I'd like CCP to make this a official console for just once before this game does switch to PC, and is there a way to stop these special controllers, I just like a even battle, real world wise, just a thought how many of console members are mouse and keyboard players probably all of them like the CCP players, so I might not my experiment but god willing if ya'll do I'm pretty sure some people might comeback and new people might stay. lol Have you tried MKB? It's harder to use than the DS3. Don't believe me? Look at the leaderboards and find out what the top players play with. Almost entirely made up of DS3 players. Or go get a mouse and keyboard and try and play the game then report back what you find -- short of sniping, forging, and tanking, it's an anchor on your gameplay.
Switched from KBM to controller. The handholding aimassist mode brought my KDR up.
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Defy Gravity
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2014.08.20 08:17:00 -
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Sorry guys but i'm on Big Swool's side for this one. This is a console game not a pc game.... However CCP did include functionality of KB/M on here and I doubt they would remove it. BUT the KB/M people cant b.itch about aim assist people BECAUSE most people that have K/BM abuse the poor strafe mechanics this game has to offer. Uhh... Example... Ermm how do I put it..... Now being an expirienced dust player I can tell when a Kay Bee Emm'er is in the match. You'll notice in a 1v1 that this erm* clone is teleporting left and right making them near impossible to track.. Even with Aim Assist. Theres moi argument.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:59:00 -
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GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote:Atiim wrote:Big Swool wrote:How about we do a experiment and take away the mouse and keyboard for like a month or two just to see how good some these people really are. You say this as if using DS3 is difficult. You say this as if you think that a DS3 is not more difficult than kbm? added via my DS4 controled PS3. Because it's not.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:05:00 -
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I would not like to get dust on my gold plated gaming mouse USB.
Pun intended.
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There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear".
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:35:00 -
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Big Swool wrote:Ight ok you make alittle sense well it's all on u but u can't be mad at them for bitching, that was the reason for by idea but in all see it will hurt this game more. Destiny will be over rated like Titan Fall I think with that lame 6v6.
Can't really hurt this game more by having announced that it will move to PC, where it rightfully should have been, instead they put it on a console that has as much graphical power as a budget video card from 2005.
How could that have backfired!!!
/facepalm
Anyways, KBM has been screwed over on here, if there has been an advantage, it would have been before Uprising, i still remember patch day well...
I went from 30-40/3 to something like 3-6/12 and couldn't hit nuthin at all, i remember having reload fest's and running out of ammo trying to kill 1 guy, i still have the email from a DS3 user about feeling bad to see far they screwed us KBM up the *ss on that day.
They adjusted it to workable levels, but it took em 2 months and even then when i come from PC to Dust i need a few games to adjust to the oddness of dusts aiming mechanics, it all feels extremely off kilter, hell PS4 Blacklight with a Venom X feels better then Dusts "native" kbm support.
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Big Swool
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.25 15:41:00 -
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Yea it got put on life support after that announcement blueberries are probably the only one still spending money on this, this game is really a proto type, and a game recruitment scheme.
I've heard the complaints from both sides and everyone says their controls are flawed really sounds like CCP is the problem lol
Bullsh*t
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:17:00 -
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M/KB is only an advantage when strafing?! A lot of M/KB players use it as a crutch because they lack tactics and positioning skills?! They also lack team work skills, and don't play well in squad so they often get caught with their pants down in cqc, and strafe like hell to get away?!
When playing on controllers you can't strafe that well so you end up having to work in teams, flank, and monitor your surroundings better. That's why most M/KB players are scouts who also run vehicles?! They have a solo PC gamer mentality. Nothing wrong with that, but a word of advice to you guys. Stop running slam into my assault rifle without checking the position out first!
Controller players, especially assaults, stop trying to go head to head on every engagement! Flank the lil bugger!
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dzizur
6 dayz
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:44:00 -
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well I don't give a flying flux anymore, as Rei mentioned, after one of the patches it all went downhill. I used m/kb setup from the begining in this game (also I'm mainly a PC player) and went pretty ok (for a noob in a scout suit back then :P).
After all the changes (changing kb/m support, making AA god-like) I gave a try with the DS3 and have been using it ever since (apart from sniping, though!). I'm very rarely using it now, only when my DS battery is flat and I'm doing logi work.
I've noticed it's very hard to get a good sensitivity when using various weapons (different for shotguning/knives/cqc , sniping , running with a assault rifles).
Apart from that, frames per second in dust are so unstable that sometimes its just a miracle to shoot someone, while with a DS I manage to shoot people behind walls, while reloading (da fuq?) or just while actually missing the target with the reticle. Although those miracles could be explained with lag, I've never ecountered them while using m/kb, but as I said, I've been rarely using it lately.
And strafing with m/kb being faster/better - didn't we go through this some time or another? |
Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.25 20:03:00 -
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I haven't used the KB/M to play since chromosome (well I've tried it after each patch since then but immediately go back to the DS3) so go ahead and remove it as a controller. The only thing the keyboard is good for, is bullshitting with the locals.
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