Not till they do something about the redline.

What buff are you looking for? Cos your not gonna get a OHK ..

What buff are you looking for? Cos your not gonna get a OHK ..

Assault suit HP is going up, their # of slots are going up which means total possible HP is going wayyy up. What am I suppose to do with a sniper than does 230 damage, horrible hit detection, awful zoom to a point where heads of people 400m away are grains of sand on my 50' TV? Scout's are invisible so can't kill them. Every heavy and their mother has over 2000 ehp. Assaults are going to average 700-900 ehp in Charlie. Amarr assault even more. Scouts already average 400-500. So why do sniper only do 230? Mind you this is a prototype sniper rifle. In charlie, even a thales on a caldari commando won't be able to one hit kill a militia gallante medium. Hell, it can't even one hit kill body shot a scout now. Officer weapon< militia suit?

A headshot with a sniper rifle should be an OHK. Like nearly always.

Personally, I think sniper damage in general is fine, but that the headshot bonus multiplier should be buffed. Then we're rewarding skillful use.

Maybe if all the good sniping points went in the redline, people would step out of it. Also, If snipers were any using within 300m, nobody would camp in the redline. The redline problem occurs just because the sniper is such a bad weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HtqZETx1KE&list=UUlbc3XILbKpyQGjsH9pgOgw

This is sniping in destiny, 2 shots to kill a person, better mechanics, you can stand and shoot and some what quick scope to defend yourself. Snipers in dust are sitting ducks. If you can't kill a person holding still in the redline, you must be a god awful merc.

All I can tell you is go watch somone good, like Forks, if you cant do what he does, usually with a charge and NOT in the redline then you lack skill. Its not the gun, its the gun game.

he's using 5+ mil wroth of sp to kill militia suits. he can't even one shot body shot my militia gallante scout with over 450 ehp.

Aim for the head or take multiple shots.

Quit asking for easy mode.

By the way, light damage mods are being buffed.

Learn to headshot.

gimme some zoom and I will head shot.

Learn to headshot.

he's using 5+ mil wroth of sp to kill militia suits. he can't even one shot body shot my militia gallante scout with over 450 ehp.

Assault suit HP is going up, their # of slots are going up which means total possible HP is going wayyy up. What am I suppose to do with a sniper than does 230 damage, horrible hit detection, awful zoom to a point where heads of people 400m away are grains of sand on my 50' TV? Scout's are invisible so can't kill them. Every heavy and their mother has over 2000 ehp. Assaults are going to average 700-900 ehp in Charlie. Amarr assault even more. Scouts already average 400-500. So why do sniper only do 230? Mind you this is a prototype sniper rifle. In charlie, even a thales on a caldari commando won't be able to one hit kill a militia gallante medium. Hell, it can't even one hit kill body shot a scout now. Officer weapon< militia suit?

(Note: 3 of the top/elite snipers who still play this game are in AE).

dude. just. lol. When was the last time you even logged in? That statement, true many many moons ago, but hasn't been true for a long time.

As part of the 1% elite snipers in this game, having outsniped or head shot every sniper who's claimed to be the best (in Uprising at least) using a Charged SR, not a Thale's, and every sniper in AE who people said to watch out for

I think I'll have more than enough credibility to speak when the time comes

Still, from what little I've seen of Symbiotic, though, I admire his ability to multi-task and deal with multiple incoming threats, be it ADS or tank. He has the situational and environmental awareness required of an elite sniper - i.e. moving, checking his surroundings, then back to perch, not staying in ADS all the time. He's not solely a selfish player who goes strictly for kills. I go for kills, backing up the team, then item destruction

I can see where the concern comes from cause of the rising HP pool yet no increase in SR dmg with almost every suit/class buff that's come out this year. With heavies, then scouts, and now assaults. I have to agree, and can't emphasize enough that head shot multiplier, if anything, should be high enough to OHK almost anything (maybe not heavies - already discussed in a prior post). Anyone who argues otherwise is clinging to some bias they have against snipers or relying too much on their eHP crutch to save them - which render most other modules useless or situational btw. Think about someone taking head shot in real life from a sniper rifle bullet that goes from one side of their head to the other; they won't live to tell about it. Even in a game, it should result in death/clone termination, as it does in most FPS.

I can see where the concern comes from cause of the rising HP pool yet no increase in SR dmg with almost every suit/class buff that's come out this year. With heavies, then scouts, and now assaults. I have to agree, and can't emphasize enough that head shot multiplier, if anything, should be high enough to OHK almost anything (maybe not heavies - already discussed in a prior post). Anyone who argues otherwise is clinging to some bias they have against snipers or relying too much on their eHP crutch to save them - which render most other modules useless or situational btw. Think about someone taking head shot in real life from a sniper rifle bullet that goes from one side of their head to the other; they won't live to tell about it. Even in a game, it should result in death/clone termination, as it does in most FPS.

Everyone who came before who was good in Chromosome either doesn't play the game anymore or has changed their roles because sniping mechanics are severely lacking. You don't see the likes of Sleepy Zan or Gemcutter hop in this game at all cause they can't camp extremely high/be nearly untouchable, run around and quickscope people, or cause they've moved on. The only time I've seen Gem in Uprising, he only had 8 kills, 0 deaths, then never again. eHP has increased significantly since then, map changes were made, and movement mechanics have improved. OHKing with body shots is easy mode to me and that's not what we're asking for, but eHP being a huge crutch, you kind of need some sort of standard for body shot damage as well. i.e. 2 shot medium protos and below, 2-4 shot heavies (as it is now). Otherwise, why have a sniper when everyone's go-to scout, heavy, or assault can do it better? Where's the balance or the need for snipers in that? This is especially significant when it comes to PC play as there is no need for snipers in it atm and any changes t3o the weapon/class/playstyle should be done at the PC level.

Also, not everyone is skilled enough to land solely headshots, especially on mobile targets that move around cover and cloak. Keep that in mind CPM cause up-and-coming snipers or newbies to the game who want to play the class effectively will be more inclined to play something else if this class remains neglected.

Again, overall, let's wait till the discussion on sniping actually matters. The adjustment in scope and the mere mention of there being sniping hotfixes in Delta or beyond means it's coming up. We've had this discussion come up so many times before this past year, over and over with the same arguments and counter-arguments. It's pointless. Not to sound cynical, but just be patient or play something else for now.

As part of the 1% elite snipers in this game, having outsniped or head shot every sniper who's claimed to be the best (in Uprising at least) using a Charged SR, not a Thale's, and every sniper in AE who people said to watch out for, I think I'll have more than enough credibility to speak when the time comes (Note: 3 of the top/elite snipers who still play this game are in AE).

Still, from what little I've seen of Symbiotic, though, I admire his ability to multi-task and deal with multiple incoming threats, be it ADS or tank. He has the situational and environmental awareness required of an elite sniper - i.e. moving, checking his surroundings, then back to perch, not staying in ADS all the time. He's not solely a selfish player who goes strictly for kills. I go for kills, backing up the team, then item destruction , but it comes with the turf when you run this character mainly solo. I haven't seen enough yet to make a judgement. When I can play this game again, I'll invest in a HDPVR, but atm I'm good with other games coming. Trust me, elite snipers take it to another level, in and out of the red, and it's something you'll want to see.

So when all the rifles but the SR got nerfed to increase ttk at the same time these suit buffs happened, we should have nerfed sr too? Go away noob. The community doesn't want it, end of story.

yet there's talk about rebuffing light dmg mods. vicious circle much?