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Skyline Lonewolf
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:36:00 -
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I can see where the concern comes from cause of the rising HP pool yet no increase in SR dmg with almost every suit/class buff that's come out this year. With heavies, then scouts, and now assaults. I have to agree, and can't emphasize enough that head shot multiplier, if anything, should be high enough to OHK almost anything (maybe not heavies - already discussed in a prior post). Anyone who argues otherwise is clinging to some bias they have against snipers or relying too much on their eHP crutch to save them - which render most other modules useless or situational btw. Think about someone taking head shot in real life from a sniper rifle bullet that goes from one side of their head to the other; they won't live to tell about it. Even in a game, it should result in death/clone termination, as it does in most FPS.
Everyone who came before who was good in Chromosome either doesn't play the game anymore or has changed their roles because sniping mechanics are severely lacking. You don't see the likes of Sleepy Zan or Gemcutter hop in this game at all cause they can't camp extremely high/be nearly untouchable, run around and quickscope people, or cause they've moved on. The only time I've seen Gem in Uprising, he only had 8 kills, 0 deaths, then never again. eHP has increased significantly since then, map changes were made, and movement mechanics have improved. OHKing with body shots is easy mode to me and that's not what we're asking for, but eHP being a huge crutch, you kind of need some sort of standard for body shot damage as well. i.e. 2 shot medium protos and below, 2-4 shot heavies (as it is now). Otherwise, why have a sniper when everyone's go-to scout, heavy, or assault can do it better? Where's the balance or the need for snipers in that? This is especially significant when it comes to PC play as there is no need for snipers in it atm and any changes to the weapon/class/playstyle should be done at the PC level.
Again, overall, let's wait till the discussion on sniping actually matters. The adjustment in scope and the mere mention of there being sniping hotfixes in Delta or beyond means it's coming up. We've had this discussion come up so many times before this past year, over and over with the same arguments and counter-arguments. It's pointless. Not to sound cynical, but just be patient or play something else for now.
As part of the 1% elite snipers in this game, having outsniped or head shot every sniper who's claimed to be the best (in Uprising at least) using a Charged SR, not a Thale's, and every sniper in AE who people said to watch out for, I think I'll have more than enough credibility to speak when the time comes (Note: 3 of the top/elite snipers who still play this game are in AE).
Still, from what little I've seen of Symbiotic, though, I admire his ability to multi-task and deal with multiple incoming threats, be it ADS or tank. He has the situational and environmental awareness required of an elite sniper - i.e. moving, checking his surroundings, then back to perch, not staying in ADS all the time. He's not solely a selfish player who goes strictly for kills. I go for kills, backing up the team, then item destruction  , but it comes with the turf when you run this character mainly solo. When I can play this game again, I'll invest in a HDPVR, but atm I'm good with other games coming. Trust me, elite snipers take it to another level, in and out of the red, and it's something you'll want to see.
Destination: Destiny. I see you coming from a mile away. 18 KDR > ReGnYuM
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Skyline Lonewolf
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:39:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Skyline Lonewolf wrote:(Note: 3 of the top/elite snipers who still play this game are in AE).  dude. just. lol. When was the last time you even logged in? That statement, true many many moons ago, but hasn't been true for a long time.
lol okay alt who is not Appia anymore, care to correct me? i've no idea where people have gone. also, i don't log on because some display setting of mine makes it so all games i play display in super speed, on or offline, even with default settings on my HDTVs, monitors, and consoles. my last option is to try and see if it's a HDMI fix as it happens with the Monster brand cords i have. even so DUST has lost it's lust for the time being.
Destination: Destiny. I see you coming from a mile away. 18 KDR > ReGnYuM
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Skyline Lonewolf
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:41:00 -
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[quote=Snake Sellors]
. unless you know every sniper in dust and their capabilities how do you know if you have killed all of the best ones?
well the thing is it depends. cause on this character i've strictly played doms and some skirmish cause that's where you'll find snipers most of the time. People want those pushing objectives or at least covering them in each of these game modes. The pool is limited as much as the population here is in dust, even more so when you factor in region, pub or pc. I edited that post saying I haven't seen enough to tell about Symbiotic. I was just saying in terms of attributes cause I haven't seen a extremely high kill count game yet. Shot selection and countering was on point, but his follow up shots could use some work. Some people you don't even get to see because of gamemode preference as well. There's people who are forum famous but aren't that good in game. Some who are pubstars and others who are PC. im mainly a pubstar, i'll admit, but my last PC i had 17 kills and 1 death (from a teammate btw who was being a **** with RE's) sniping next to 2 snipers who had 8 kills a piece sniping for ***** and giggles lol. Would've easily pulled a 30+ bomb if this wasn't the case.
. being able to headshot an elite sniper doesn't mean your better than them (unless you mean you get them every time)
I check the list at the beginning of the game to see who im up against. get them almost everytime. Use vehicles as cover and hunt them down from a perch. They usually don't have high kill games when they're being hunted. JOHN1979 is an exception though from O.H. He kills and he's good at hiding.
. outsniping, again this could also be circumstantial, a good sniper after the opposite side is red lined, is unlikely to get any whereas his counterpart on the opposing team will get plenty. (unless you mean you were in squad with them for an extended period and out performed them consistently) - agree, circumstantial. usually against, but i've had a few where i've been squaded with them before. sniping's not the same for them in Uprising.
.1% elite snipers? do you mean 1% of snipers qualify as elite? or out of all dust players 1% are elite snipers? or was it just plucked from the air as a way too say they are few and far between?
out of all dust snipers that i've met, there's only 1% that's elite. there's too few of them that are actually useful that give the rest a bad rep. i.e. high kill count, kills marked targets/targets that put team mates in danger, clears out objectives alone or with support fire, has situational and environmental awareness around them to survive incoming flak, goes mobile when necessary, has multiple perches at his/her disposal, countersnipes, etc. any that possess all of those skills are elite in my book.
Have you heared of me? am i in this "elite"? do you know what my average playstyle or scores are?
i've heard of the famous people: Sleepy Zan, Gemcutter, Storm Shelton, JOHN1979, Radar, fragmentedhackslash, Symbioticforks, Poonmunch, JungianRND, Tyrrus Vacca(sp), Appia Vibbia, jadesilencerwolf, then some old AE guys, etc. but most of them I haven't seen in action, merely legends. that's the thing about sniping in Uprising. unless ppl play with you, have seen you on the other side of the scope, or see videos of you playing, you don't get any credit.
I haven't heard of you, only from these forums, and maybe you do fit the bill, but I wouldn't know unless we saw each other or you had footage. that's the thing though. pics or it didn't happen. people even have asked me "who are you?" such as Faquira Bluetta from FA (at the time) and I'd outslay his whole squad (25 kills in full squad), 37 when I was in a full squad with TP (no OB), or when I cloned Espeon's squad lol. Everyone was looking for me right before the Victory screen flashed. It's the amazing feats you do solo or in squad that you wish you'd caught on camera. but you couldn't.
Destination: Destiny. I see you coming from a mile away. 18 KDR > ReGnYuM
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Skyline Lonewolf
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:10:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:
So when all the rifles but the SR got nerfed to increase ttk at the same time these suit buffs happened, we should have nerfed sr too? Go away noob. The community doesn't want it, end of story.
yet there's talk about rebuffing light dmg mods. vicious circle much?
Destination: Destiny. I see you coming from a mile away. 18 KDR > ReGnYuM
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