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My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.

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Atiim wrote:

To begin, did that Swarmer actually kill you?

Also, you claim that 200% of the resources you fielded made your ADS useless, yet you still manage to maintain a perfect 10.00 K/D? This statement is contradictory, and null.


I'm sorry Atiim, but how is it that my statement became "contradictory" and therefore 'Null"? I think the key here I should mention, is that often times players don't start in an AV role. But as they take notice of the threat I pose they switch out to deal with the dropship. So I get a few kills right from the start, but as they field a few AV, not simply a milita swarm mind you, I'll have a much tougher time effectively engaging the enemy.

I do understand what you are saying, it took 2 swarmers most of the match sticking with an AV role. Let me be specific, it took 2 swarmers below the proto range to keep my DS simply pushed back. Often times though, a proto swarmer, a LONE proto swarmer is enough to neutralize me.

So what if they didn't "kill" me. Had I been a lesser player, I have no doubt that many times they would have got me. But just to compare to infantry, when my scout engages, then runs away, using my speed to outpace the enemy therefore keeping myself alive, is THAT UNFAIR? Is every engagement to result in the death of one or the other because that's what it takes to be fair and balanced(unlike fox news)? I disagree with that kind of sentiment.



I have a feeling that I know what you mean by "dry run", but would you mind clarifying what you mean by "dry run"?. Also, you claim that ADSs are useless against Swarm Launchers, yet your presence required that the enemy field at least 300% of the resources you've fielded?

This is also contradictory, and null.


First let's address what a "dry run" is. When AV is out, I make a run from up high, swooping down very quickly to where I assume the AV are located. When I get down to the ground, my hardener comes up, and I quickly try to engage what may or may not be the swarmer (very difficult to tell with other infantry on the ground not to mention having to wait on rendering). Dry would of course refer to a run where I was unable to get any kills before being forced back off.

Of the second part, you are putting words into my mouth so to speak. I never said an ADS is useless against swarm launchers. What I said is that "a swarm launcher is HIGHLY effective against a dropship." Not useless as you would say. And there is nothing contradictory, I mention that the swarmers neutralize my effectiveness, while at the same time leaving themself (sometimes themselves) vulnerable to infantry on the ground.

The point though, is it about them fielding 300% or 600% in the AV role. Yeah that makes total sense when people are fielding MLT, STD, or ADV av, but not when someone is actually speced into an AV role. IE, those damned commandos that can single handedly drive away a dropship with swarms.



So you claim that Swarms are Dropship killers (which they aren't in the case of ADSs for many reasons that I'll list later), yet through the entire post you've claimed that Swarms don't kill Dropships, but neutralize them.

Could you at least pretend to remain consistent?


Swarms ARE dropships killers. Considering the speed and agility of them (the dropships), which is more effective

A lock on and fire missile system that once locked, CAN'T be dodged and must be outrun

A high damage, low ROF, weapon that CAN be dodged and out run

As a long time tanker, and a forgegunner on the side, I know very well how hard it can be to actually land a single shot on a dropship, much less 3 or 4 (sometimes more). What I didn't understand though (as I had not seen it from the dropships perspective) was how effective those swarm missiles can be.

I see so many complaints that cry about being unable to kill a dropship or how their swarms are being outrun. I now find them utterly ridiculous. Let's just assume there are two enemy ADS out and two proto swarmers out as well. Focusing fire on one ADS will force it to go lick it's wounds, and a few missiles on the other will disrupt it's shots (knock back is a PAIN) at you, meaning more than likely you will drive that one away too.

So two swarmers could easily in my book keep 2 dropships driven away, of the proto tier. Something I never see mention of from a swarmer is how effective knockback is, as you don't see it from my eyes. I got you lined up, ready to kill, and a volley knocks me around and off target, forcing me to realign myself. But in this time, that swarmer has 2 more volleys in the air, knocking me around more and applying enough damage that I need to retreat.

Maybe you should consider this the next time you say how "useless" your swarms are.


You shouldn't be flying so low or close to the ground or towers in the first place.


Interesting that you would be telling me exactly how I'm supposed to be flying. But you are also assuming that I'm flying close to the ground or other obstacles. Which of course at times I am, but that's a no brainer as infantry use those very same things as cover.

Quite often though, I'm not as close as you assume. But close is a relative term when a single ( many times totally invisible) swarm volley slams into your dropship, turning you on your side. I could be 100 meters from the ground or 200 meters from a building and still slam into them because it's going to take that much slide to right myself.

But I would suggest you actually go fly an ADS before you start making assumptions like I could have easily done about them. It's one thing to see it from your eyes, another to step into their shoes. I once thought that yeah maybe atiim is right about those swarms and dropships, but in all honesty fella, you are full of **** for the most part.

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My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.