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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 16:47:00 -
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I don't know why I shouldn't be able to already but I'd like to, at any given time be able to give myself a respec in-game.. there are times when I invest skillpoints in something that I change my mind about or even, one time accidentally spent some.
I don't see how giving myself a respec would negatively affect gameplay so I think it should be an option.
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.08.03 16:57:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:I don't know why I shouldn't be able to already but I'd like to, at any given time be able to give myself a respec in-game.. there are times when I invest skillpoints in something that I change my mind about or even, one time accidentally spent some.
I don't see how giving myself a respec would negatively affect gameplay so I think it should be an option.
Four words sums this up :P GÇ£Flavor of the monthGÇ¥
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:33:00 -
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Nope, do your research and spend your points carefully. If you put them into something you had better be ready to figure out how to make it work. Ya might as well propose that CCP give away free money.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:45:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Nope, do your research and spend your points carefully. If you put them into something you had better be ready to figure out how to make it work. Ya might as well propose that CCP give away free money. Then let people purchase respects with aurum once per year. |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:47:00 -
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Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer |
taxi bastard
jihad taxi co.
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:50:00 -
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its getting to the point where a respect will not really do too much to me, though I do have about 20% of my SP in stuff ill never use. the first 2 players are obviously in a similar boat or better.
when I started playing I put my points all over the board and wasted so much vial early SP's putting me at a huge disadvantage. although the first poster has a point about FOTM chasing, I believe that is a mute point as many players have their bases covered suit wise. many players before me have had full respecs, I myself have had partial respecs and it did allow me to recover from the mistakes I made when I did not understand the game to an extent.
CCP should simply sell respecs for 15k Aurum in the store.
for those with 50+mil SP's it would not make much of a difference
for the 25+/- crowd like myself it would allow some tweeking.
for the 10 mil+/- crowd it would allow mistakes to be rectified and the making of a lot more competitive toon in many cases.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:54:00 -
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I have 46 million sp, all I would do is move a few skill points over from guns I don't use to other stuff I want. The whole FOTM excuse that people keep blurting out is rubbish cos it only takes a few weeks to get it anyway and it doesn't get nerfed for near 2 months. |
X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:25:00 -
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I am death,
you cannot see me,
you cannot out run me,
you cannot find me,
but im always right behind you. -stab-
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:44:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Nope, do your research and spend your points carefully. If you put them into something you had better be ready to figure out how to make it work. Ya might as well propose that CCP give away free money. I don't understand how those are similar but mkay.
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:46:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer To be a 'gamer' just requires that you play a game, be quite.
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:49:00 -
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Saying that you personally don't need it or wouldn't use it doesn't mean that others don't and wouldn't. It wouldn't affect anyone but those who need to use it so why the opposal? Just cuz?
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:57:00 -
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1 optional respec every 6 months no roleover no probem no isk back more skill books bought becomes an isk sink |
Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.03 19:55:00 -
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Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. |
EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 19:59:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post.
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:04:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post.
I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec.
Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:08:00 -
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The daily new respec thread.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:10:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post. I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec. Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully. Maybe you saw the post but apparently it went sailing over your head. Once again, it wouldn't affect you so why do you care?
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:24:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post. I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec. Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully. Maybe you saw the post but apparently it went sailing over your head. Once again, it wouldn't affect you so why do you care?
You keep asserting that it wouldn't affect me, but you've yet to put forth a logical argument as to why. Remember that in debates the burden of proof is placed on the one making the assertion in the first place. Maybe you're not reading what I and others have had to say: if you spend your skillpoints carefully you will never skill into anything you didn't actually want.
Actions have consequences, spend your skillpoints poorly? enjoy being terrible. I see no reason why people should be able to repeatedly chase flavor of the month. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:26:00 -
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it would mainly be used by people with less than 25 mil, and as long as there is a limit on how often you can do it and dont get your isk back from the skillbooks its going to cost you also. it would be good for npe aswel.l |
EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:35:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post. I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec. Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully. Maybe you saw the post but apparently it went sailing over your head. Once again, it wouldn't affect you so why do you care? You keep asserting that it wouldn't affect me, but you've yet to put forth a logical argument as to why. Remember that in debates the burden of proof is placed on the one making the assertion in the first place. Maybe you're not reading what I and others have had to say: if you spend your skillpoints carefully you will never skill into anything you didn't actually want. Actions have consequences, spend your skillpoints poorly? enjoy being terrible. I see no reason why people should be able to repeatedly chase flavor of the month. Me proving that it wouldn't affect people seems a lot less practical than you just giving me one instance in which it would. And I am reading what you and others are saying.. spend them correctly and you won't need a respec, yeah, I understood that.. but people don't always spend them correctly, like, a lot of people.. especially new players who don't know what to invest in. It would greatly help them to be able to use a respec as they learn more of the game. Saying 'F them, they should have used them correctly' is what I like to call being a D**K. If you can't think of a way it would negatively affect you then, again, I don't understand why you so greatly oppose it.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
97
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:42:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer To be a 'gamer' just requires that you play a game, be quite.
Funny man, telling me what to do. Respec supporters are usually the people who don't want to put a decent amount of time in a game to unlock stuff. Those people already ruined battlefield and other games with shortcut packs available for sale.
Also the correct term is "'quiet" genius. If you're trying to be smart make sure you do it right. Please be quiet |
EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:42:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline. Refer to my previous post. I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec. Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully. Maybe you saw the post but apparently it went sailing over your head. Once again, it wouldn't affect you so why do you care? You keep asserting that it wouldn't affect me, but you've yet to put forth a logical argument as to why. Remember that in debates the burden of proof is placed on the one making the assertion in the first place. Maybe you're not reading what I and others have had to say: if you spend your skillpoints carefully you will never skill into anything you didn't actually want. Actions have consequences, spend your skillpoints poorly? enjoy being terrible. I see no reason why people should be able to repeatedly chase flavor of the month. Your only points so far are: 1) I think I should be able to whenever I want 2) I don't think it would affect the game negatively. Neither of those are well supported, and in the second point it's empirically wrong because of flavor of the month chasers - people who will just jump the train to whatever is currently most overpowered and fun destroying for others. And your whole FOTM dilemma is easily solved by either making it cost extra for a respec, making people re-buy skillbooks, or a combo of both.
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:46:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer To be a 'gamer' just requires that you play a game, be quite. Funny man, telling me what to do. Respec supporters are usually the people who don't want to put a decent amount of time in a game to unlock stuff. Those people already ruined battlefield and other games with shortcut packs available for sale. Also the correct term is "'quiet" genius. If you're trying to be smart make sure you do it right. Please be quiet Nice assumption. Btw, it's called a typo.. and I'm not trying to be smart lol but you thinking I am tells me you do perceive me as being just that.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:52:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer To be a 'gamer' just requires that you play a game, be quite. Funny man, telling me what to do. Respec supporters are usually the people who don't want to put a decent amount of time in a game to unlock stuff. Those people already ruined battlefield and other games with shortcut packs available for sale. Also the correct term is "'quiet" genius. If you're trying to be smart make sure you do it right. Please be quiet Nice assumption. Btw, it's called a typo.. and I'm not trying to be smart lol but you thinking I am tells me you do perceive me as being just that.
With your "typo" I think the complete opposite of you. You don't bother to check what you write and get called out on it, because you try to flame people. If you checked you'd be smart. You didn't so that's kind of self-explanatory what I think of you. |
EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 20:56:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer To be a 'gamer' just requires that you play a game, be quite. Funny man, telling me what to do. Respec supporters are usually the people who don't want to put a decent amount of time in a game to unlock stuff. Those people already ruined battlefield and other games with shortcut packs available for sale. Also the correct term is "'quiet" genius. If you're trying to be smart make sure you do it right. Please be quiet Nice assumption. Btw, it's called a typo.. and I'm not trying to be smart lol but you thinking I am tells me you do perceive me as being just that. With your "typo" I think the complete opposite of you. You don't bother to check what you write and get called out on it, because you try to flame people. If you checked you'd be smart. You didn't so that's kind of self-explanatory what I think of you. Too stupid to even debate with. We're done speaking, if you continue to address me, just know that the conversation will be one-sided.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:03:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:its getting to the point where a respect will not really do too much to me, though I do have about 20% of my SP in stuff ill never use. the first 2 players are obviously in a similar boat or better.
when I started playing I put my points all over the board and wasted so much vial early SP's putting me at a huge disadvantage. although the first poster has a point about FOTM chasing, I believe that is a mute point as many players have their bases covered suit wise. many players before me have had full respecs, I myself have had partial respecs and it did allow me to recover from the mistakes I made when I did not understand the game to an extent.
CCP should simply sell respecs for 15k Aurum in the store.
for those with 50+mil SP's it would not make much of a difference
for the 25+/- crowd like myself it would allow some tweeking.
for the 10 mil+/- crowd it would allow mistakes to be rectified and the making of a lot more competitive toon in many cases.
myself beign in the 10+/- million skillpoint range would LOVE to rectify the mistakes iv made
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:13:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Me proving that it wouldn't affect people seems a lot less practical than you just giving me one instance in which it would. And I am reading what you and others are saying.. spend them correctly and you won't need a respec, yeah, I understood that.. but people don't always spend them correctly, like, a lot of people.. especially new players who don't know what to invest in. It would greatly help them to be able to use a respec as they learn more of the game. Saying 'F them, they should have used them correctly' is what I like to call being a D**K. If you can't think of a way it would negatively affect you then, again, I don't understand why you so greatly oppose it.
Well 1) the burden of proof isn't on me here, It's on you, and 2) I was generous and already did with my flavor of the month example. You need to come up with well supported reasons as to why it wouldn't affect people either so we can find the holes in your thinking, point out when you're relying on logical fallacies, or so that you've explained your line of thought well enough to sway others, If you don't want to do that you might as well concede the debate.
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:16:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:Me proving that it wouldn't affect people seems a lot less practical than you just giving me one instance in which it would. And I am reading what you and others are saying.. spend them correctly and you won't need a respec, yeah, I understood that.. but people don't always spend them correctly, like, a lot of people.. especially new players who don't know what to invest in. It would greatly help them to be able to use a respec as they learn more of the game. Saying 'F them, they should have used them correctly' is what I like to call being a D**K. If you can't think of a way it would negatively affect you then, again, I don't understand why you so greatly oppose it. Well 1) the burden of proof isn't on me here, It's on you, and 2) I was generous and already did with my flavor of the month example. You need to come up with well supported reasons as to why it wouldn't affect people either so we can find the holes in your thinking, point out when you're relying on logical fallacies, or so that you've explained your line of thought well enough to sway others, If you don't want to do that you might as well concede the debate. There are a thousand ways it wouldn't affect you.. a LOT more practical for you to just name ONE instance in which it would.... and I replied to your FOTM dilemma.. that's so easily solved just read what I said.
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Malleus Malificorum
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:21:00 -
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So you concede the debate then? |
Coleman Gray
Haus of Triage
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:21:00 -
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Lets just get shut of the sp system, Dum this game right down, no std,adv or proto, just starter fits
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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