Nope, do your research and spend your points carefully. If you put them into something you had better be ready to figure out how to make it work. Ya might as well propose that CCP give away free money.

Euhm no... Grind it out like a gamer

Do your research and spend your skillpoints carefully on things that you actually *want*. Don't chase flavor of the month and you won't have these problems. I haven't 'wasted' any SP on this character and I'm sitting at 20million sp. All it takes is a little discipline.

I saw it, and all I have to say is that the only people who whine for respecs are people who chase fotm instead of spending skillpoints on things that they actually want. If you did your research you wouldn't whine for a respec.

Eve has never gotten a respec ever, and yet there's no demand for it, why? because people spend their skillpoints carefully.

You keep asserting that it wouldn't affect me, but you've yet to put forth a logical argument as to why. Remember that in debates the burden of proof is placed on the one making the assertion in the first place. Maybe you're not reading what I and others have had to say: if you spend your skillpoints carefully you will never skill into anything you didn't actually want.

Actions have consequences, spend your skillpoints poorly? enjoy being terrible. I see no reason why people should be able to repeatedly chase flavor of the month.

You keep asserting that it wouldn't affect me, but you've yet to put forth a logical argument as to why. Remember that in debates the burden of proof is placed on the one making the assertion in the first place. Maybe you're not reading what I and others have had to say: if you spend your skillpoints carefully you will never skill into anything you didn't actually want.

Actions have consequences, spend your skillpoints poorly? enjoy being terrible. I see no reason why people should be able to repeatedly chase flavor of the month.

Your only points so far are:
1) I think I should be able to whenever I want
2) I don't think it would affect the game negatively.

Neither of those are well supported, and in the second point it's empirically wrong because of flavor of the month chasers - people who will just jump the train to whatever is currently most overpowered and fun destroying for others.

Funny man, telling me what to do. Respec supporters are usually the people who don't want to put a decent amount of time in a game to unlock stuff. Those people already ruined battlefield and other games with shortcut packs available for sale.

Also the correct term is "'quiet" genius. If you're trying to be smart make sure you do it right. Please be quiet

With your "typo" I think the complete opposite of you. You don't bother to check what you write and get called out on it, because you try to flame people. If you checked you'd be smart. You didn't so that's kind of self-explanatory what I think of you.

Well 1) the burden of proof isn't on me here, It's on you, and 2) I was generous and already did with my flavor of the month example. You need to come up with well supported reasons as to why it wouldn't affect people either so we can find the holes in your thinking, point out when you're relying on logical fallacies, or so that you've explained your line of thought well enough to sway others, If you don't want to do that you might as well concede the debate.

So you concede the debate then?

Lets just get shut of the sp system, Dum this game right down, no std,adv or proto, just starter fits

No, I'm pretty sure you don't want to do it because you can't actually support your argument well.

No, I'm pretty sure you don't want to do it because you can't actually support your argument well.

Wow, here we go again. After two freaking years of dealing with "respec" threads like this, one would wonder if anyone bothers to do their research on the forums and use the search function to see what was discussed previously on the subject matter. Two years of this.

Personally I am not inclined to have players able to respec.

Unlike others I have made mistakes on this character with skilling...... would a Respec benefit me?

Yes.

Do I want one?

No.

Why?

Because players need to think..... they should not be given everything easily.....they should not feel entitled. In EVE and Dust actions have weight, they have consequences, and they have repercussions.

What I wanted from you is completely logical - it's actually called the process of logical debate, while you may think it's ridiculous to explain yourself it works wonders to help convey your thoughts or find where you might be mistaken in your thoughts.

From mechanical standpoints, you're correct. In terms of meta shifts however though it affects a lot. Once something becomes slightly overpowered (say like scouts, or heavies, or rail rifles) all of a sudden everyone is purchasing respecs to switch to that. So while the ability to purchase respecs doesn't affect the gameplay, it does affect the game environment and meta shifts can be incredibly toxic. What if tomorrow someone finds out that X thing is really overpowered at proto tier, and so people use respecs to get to it at proto tier, and then when it's nerfed due to being noxious to try and play against the people who rode that train to ruin simply hop over to the next 'op' thing.

To make another example, there's a lot of people who have skilled into dropships simply to exploit the confirmed bug that is 'skill stacking', most of these people didn't skill into dropships because they actually wanted them, they skilled into them because they're broken and not functioning as intended. With purchasable respecs, the people who abused this behaviour essentially getting away with skilling into things just to exploit them scott free.

Furthermore it undermines the whole concept of what eve and dust are built upon, "Choices have Consequences".

I was indecisive as well. I put A LOT of SP into weapons I will never use again, I have SP in skills that don't do anything, and in Dropsuits I rarely use......

Every players who is here on the forums was in the same place as these beginners once before...... we understand that it hits you for a month...tops.....then you move on.

If players have the options to respec regularly they have no attachment to their character, no care in selecting their skills, no unique aspects that make their character special. SP investment is like a chronicle of your characters actions in Dust and gives your character identity....... I'd hate to see Dust/ Legion lose its harsh and gritty vibe for casualised mechanics because players stopped taking the choices seriously.