I'm just not going to bother with this one, any takers?

Your posting Meee One reminds me of what Light and Heavy Frame users ended up going through most of 2013. Do not expect an answer. CCP is notorious for being oblivious. In the Eve Online game they had an exploit involving Moon Mining, it was negatively effecting the economy, it was widely know about by the time they solved it years later.

1. Logistic Frames are going to return to something like they were in Chromesome. 2.It's going to suck. 3.Don't expect a fix. 4.Just try not to laugh too hard when CCP balances things out by taking away the Equipment slot from Assaults.

I'm just not going to bother with this one, any takers?

Logis have 30 more eHP than their scout equivalent.
Logis are slower than basic mediums.
Logis have low regen.

Assaults have about 75-80 more eHP than logis.
Faster than basic mediums.
Faster regen than their logi equivalent.

After charlie:
Logis have 30 more eHP than their scout equivalent.
Logis are slower than basic mediums.
Logis have low regen.


Assaults have 200 more eHP than their logi equivalent.
Faster than basic mediums.
Faster regen than their logi equivalent.
+1 Slot to be equal with their logi equivalent.
More CPU/PG



Logis aren't "fine" or "balanced".

Logis are horribly broken and assaults will be another monsterously OP suit for them to deal with.

Just like the AR being OP at one point players will shriek and yell and come up with excuses as to why logis shouldn't get buffed.
These are fools and should be ignored.

Logis need a buff CCP,i'm getting tired of saying it.

If assaults get eHP give logis speed and regen.

Logis are being abandoned,and this should never happen to a specialist.

Basics should be terrible,not the ones that actually take investment.



I want an actual response to this post CCP, because you're about to shaft logis again.

Seeing assaults will be getting 8 OP slots as well as OP base stats,logis deserve speed and regen.

nope this poor sap can HTFU. i have been in a under powered assault suit my whole dust life so i don't want to hear jack **** about how assaults will be better slayer suits then logis. just put down your uplink so i can spawn in and kill the things then give me some ammo. if your still trying to be a slayer logi then you don't understand dust.

What you are basically saying here is that you want the Logistics suits to have better stats for survivability?

If this is so

What you see as survivability, 90% of the rest of DUST sees as "Oh yeah, I can slay in that."

Because of the Gal and Cal "Logi Slayer" spam that was 1.6, when 80% of the competitive players in Dust switched to logi classes to be slayers, the logistics class will never again be buffed outside of extra eHP

Simply because of the amount of equipment a logistics player can carry is so high

Any buff would make them viable to just tank with 900 armor again and sit in 8 rep hives and be able to take on whole squads on their own

This is why logi stats are so low

And this is why logi stats will continue to be so low

You ***** about assault suits getting a buff

When they basically had were the same stats as a logistics suit to begin with and only 1 equipment slot

Assault suits stats were BARELY over that of logi suits, and had no real role or monetary value at all to the team, and also couldn't even fit barely any proto gear on Cal and Min assaults

Case closed

"Logistics were OP at one point so they should suffer forevermore because of it'.

Lolno,logistics are specialists and they need specialist stats.

If Assaults get eHP then give speed and regen to logistics.

Slots being equal means an assault will always out tank them.

So,i believe logistics should have the ability to flee and survive while fleeing. Hence speed and regen.

Seeing as a post charlie world will be exceedingly lethal for logistics.

Do you even play logistics in a squad?

" Flee and survive"?

If your playing logistics as a support role (as is intended)

You should always be around your squad mates in which you should never have to "Flee" as you should ALWAYS be in 2 vs 1 situations

You say Assaults will always out-tank you

Well DUH

The assault suit is a run into the front lines suit

One of the last "Lone wolf" suits left

They don't have any cover or support or very much regen

While with 3 or 4 equip slots ANY logistics player can get WELL over 1000 eHP PLUS Enough healing equipment to make Steven Hawking walk again

You say you want "Speed and regen" if assault suits get eHP

You act like an extra 150 eHP matters over speed and regen

CCP gave scouts "Speed and regen"

AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!

As it stands, after Charlie, logis will STILL have a 2 second faster average shield recharge time, 15% faster hacking, 33% farther scanning distance, AND 10% better scan precision than an assault suit

Assault will be faster, more possible eHP, and more stamina (Slayer bonuses, all of them)

If ANYTHING needs to be given to logis, its that they need a lower scan profile and increased scan precision for better E-war fittings

MAYBE a 5 HP/s shield recharge bonus IF the assault recharges get a buff

Otherwise no, logis are fine where they are, its more about skill and awareness when being a logi more than anything

Tbh any buff is fine as long as logistics Isn't forgotten.

Those bonuses work too.

You seriously see nothing wrong with a suit that's weak and slow?

With assaults getting 8 slots,there's 0 reason for logis to not have stats equal to basic frames atleast!

there is no reason that logi is the only suit that has such a big difference in base stats in terms of HP and speed compared to the basic frame

Four equipment slots.

Dear lord,you're an idiot.

I asked for a buff seeing as Assaults will be equal slot wise.

Logistics would still have low eHP,but speed and regen to accomidate it.

reread what I wrote, rethink and then maybe you manage to get out of the pigeonholing to post something valuable with a proper argument

You seriously see nothing wrong with a suit that's weak and slow?

Logi since beta here.

No thanks.

Most Logis just don't know their place.

They try to engage and die which leaves the squad without support.

Most Logis suicide injector farm and use that f ing 30% pile of crap.

Most logi s can't dance, have no idea about positioning or even count reloads.

Most Logis only give a toss about themselves and the points they can farm and is reflected in how f ing useless they are.


Iv had a slight break and been on my alt and I can safely say that 9/10 support Logis are just plain crap and most exhibit all the above. The majority also try and cheap out but this just means that your effectiveness at keeping everyone alive is cut in half and this snow balls onto yourself.

Also, if your squad dies, don't do that 'heroic' suicide honour crap, run off a drop a link and guard it. If your going to definitely die then obviously, go mental.

The average cost for a Pro logistics with all equipment is easily 250k isk.
Assaults Are half that.

The average sp investment is 2x that of an assault as well.

That is why.

And everyone here is of the concensus logistics shouldn't get buffed even after such a hefty investment?


You are all the dumbest people i have ever met.

In other games my dedication would be rewarded by having survivability.

And WP isn't a 'reward' i can't use WP to stop damage and i can't use it to buy fittings.

I see something that's wrong ...

It shouldn't take three point-blank shotgun blasts to kill a f*cking medic.
It should take two.