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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:10:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Its called "Throw 2 proto AV nades at a 500,000 ISK tank and put 3 sets of swarm into it and watch it burn"
It's called "they run away and spam hardeners around the time when the 2nd AV nade hits."
AV nades are intended to assist in the destruction of a vehicle, not destroy one by themselves. So what's your point?
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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knight guard fury
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
1145
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:20:00 -
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its not as OP as you think. a maddy can survive 3 std remotes if you put one heavy plate on. milita tanks are the easiest to kill so uneless you have your hardeners on or you are not more armor/shield tanked than you wont survive, assuming the delivery man is using 3 std remotes, if he is using 6, std and adv, then you are far less likely to survive a delivery. my favorite fit is the "Pizza man", a scout with std and republic adv RE's.
actually bomb cars require skill in the fact that you need lvl 3 to kill tanks with one delivery so in a way it does take "skill"
its not an exploit or glitch, ccp let this happen for a reason. suicide ganking is tactic long before you even knew about this game (eve online has suicide gankers constantly and daily) and it will always be here.
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
129
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:28:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:its not as OP as you think. a maddy can survive 3 std remotes if you put one heavy plate on. milita tanks are the easiest to kill so uneless you have your hardeners on or you are not more armor/shield tanked than you wont survive, assuming the delivery man is using 3 std remotes, if he is using 6, std and adv, then you are far less likely to survive a delivery. my favorite fit is the "Pizza man", a scout with std and republic adv RE's.
actually bomb cars require skill in the fact that you need lvl 3 to kill tanks with one delivery so in a way it does take "skill"
its not an exploit or glitch, ccp let this happen for a reason. suicide ganking is tactic long before you even knew about this game (eve online has suicide gankers constantly and daily) and it will always be here.
The point is that it requires VASTLY lesser skill than getting level 3 in grenades, unlocking remotes, and then getting level three in those. That barely a million, which is nothing in comparison to a tanker that has over 10 million or more sp invested into tanks.
I also imagine that in EVE, it would take actual player skill to pilot one ship into another (especially depending on the size of them, as they can varry). It only requires someone who can drive a small jeep into a tank 5 times it's size in Dust, which isn't skill full in any way.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1548
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:32:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Larry Desmo wrote:its not a glitch exploit its a legitimate tatic that a little situational awareness can nullify. quit crying and deal with it sure thing, random guy in starter corp! any other ingenious, wisened advice? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem being in Molon Labe is worse than being in a starter corp
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My second, Hynox, will be in contact with your second once announced.
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Fun > Realism
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knight guard fury
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
1145
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:35:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:knight guard fury wrote:its not as OP as you think. a maddy can survive 3 std remotes if you put one heavy plate on. milita tanks are the easiest to kill so uneless you have your hardeners on or you are not more armor/shield tanked than you wont survive, assuming the delivery man is using 3 std remotes, if he is using 6, std and adv, then you are far less likely to survive a delivery. my favorite fit is the "Pizza man", a scout with std and republic adv RE's.
actually bomb cars require skill in the fact that you need lvl 3 to kill tanks with one delivery so in a way it does take "skill"
its not an exploit or glitch, ccp let this happen for a reason. suicide ganking is tactic long before you even knew about this game (eve online has suicide gankers constantly and daily) and it will always be here. The point is that it requires VASTLY lesser skill than getting level 3 in grenades, unlocking remotes, and then getting level three in those. That's barely a million, which is nothing in comparison to a tanker that has over 10 million or more sp invested into tanks. I also imagine that in EVE, it would take actual player skill to pilot one ship into another (especially depending on the size of them, as they can varry). It only requires someone who can drive a small jeep into a tank 5 times it's size in Dust, which isn't skill full in any way. EDIT: Saying that driving jihad jeeps into tanks in Dust requires skill is like saying that jihad vehicles in BF4 require skillful players to use, yet anyone can do it...
well, in most cases highly skilled players transporting stuff worth millions and there ship worth millions is all gone when they jump a gate so its basiclly the equivalent in dust and they dont complain about it. (at first anyways unless they have a good reason to)
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10950
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:07:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: Implying fire and forget requires skill......
- Resource Management
- Timing
- Positioning
- Situational Awareness
- Ability to Take Evasive Action
- Ability to Predict a Target's Movement/Flight Path
I could go further, but I'm sure you get the point. The last one is pretty much the only one, and the rest of them applies to pretty much every role and is pretty much invalid. No, it doesn't take skill to use swarms either, but being good at them takes a bit of skill. They're still skills required to successfully operate a Swarm Launcher, so your point is NULL.
If those don't count simply because other roles require those skills as well, then that logic would also imply that HAVs, ADSs, and pretty much every vehicle in existence doesn't require skill either.
And nothing of value was lost that day...
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
411
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Posted - 2014.07.26 16:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: Implying fire and forget requires skill......
- Resource Management
- Timing
- Positioning
- Situational Awareness
- Ability to Take Evasive Action
- Ability to Predict a Target's Movement/Flight Path
I could go further, but I'm sure you get the point. The last one is pretty much the only one, and the rest of them applies to pretty much every role and is pretty much invalid. No, it doesn't take skill to use swarms either, but being good at them takes a bit of skill. They're still skills required to successfully operate a Swarm Launcher, so your point is NULL. If those don't count simply because other roles require those skills as well, then that logic would also imply that HAVs, ADSs, and pretty much every vehicle in existence doesn't require skill either.
No, they are not. I could be drunk, do none of these things, and still get a kill with swarms. They do a lot of the work. And again, those are basic skills that apply to any other thing, so your point is null. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
411
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Posted - 2014.07.26 16:30:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:knight guard fury wrote:its not as OP as you think. a maddy can survive 3 std remotes if you put one heavy plate on. milita tanks are the easiest to kill so uneless you have your hardeners on or you are not more armor/shield tanked than you wont survive, assuming the delivery man is using 3 std remotes, if he is using 6, std and adv, then you are far less likely to survive a delivery. my favorite fit is the "Pizza man", a scout with std and republic adv RE's.
actually bomb cars require skill in the fact that you need lvl 3 to kill tanks with one delivery so in a way it does take "skill"
its not an exploit or glitch, ccp let this happen for a reason. suicide ganking is tactic long before you even knew about this game (eve online has suicide gankers constantly and daily) and it will always be here. The point is that it requires VASTLY lesser skill than getting level 3 in grenades, unlocking remotes, and then getting level three in those. That's barely a million, which is nothing in comparison to a tanker that has over 10 million or more sp invested into tanks. I also imagine that in EVE, it would take actual player skill to pilot one ship into another (especially depending on the size of them, as they can varry). It only requires someone who can drive a small jeep into a tank 5 times it's size in Dust, which isn't skill full in any way. EDIT: Saying that driving jihad jeeps into tanks in Dust requires skill is like saying that jihad vehicles in BF4 require skillful players to use, yet anyone can do it... well, in most cases highly skilled players transporting stuff worth millions and there ship worth millions is all gone when they jump a gate so its basiclly the equivalent in dust and they dont complain about it. (at first anyways unless they have a good reason to)
Gate Camping and JLAV's have nothing in common, in fact Gate Camping is just a ambush. You could easily do such a thing in dust. And I've survived several hundred GC's. I call bullshit.
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2017
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Posted - 2014.07.26 16:43:00 -
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JLAV's are a zero risk big reward. change it. there are BPO LAV's and suits. equipment are not tied to suits so once you put on the RE's your free to switch over to a free suit and use a free LAV to cost someone a lot of isk with ease.
it is broken.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
1104
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Posted - 2014.07.26 17:11:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:I tank and I jihad and in doing so i've learned how to counter it. steps: 1.don't use sica or gunnlogi they are easiest to jihad due to their back side being a good slamming board use madrugar only the side is only good place to hit. 2. fuel injector, when you see/hear lav make a beline to your redline where hopefully they are installations 3.do not go backwards only forward unless jihad is approaching from front 4.do not stop moving you are easier to successfully hit stationary . 5.stay in rough terrain so jihad cannot build up speed. 6. if in squad have a guy in gunner seat observing overview map for tanks/lav or if you have sniper/ads in squad get him to keep eye out for you. 7.once jihad is attempted/succeded against you don't be a tard recall yo asset 8.watch killfeed for remote and commited suicide hope this helps all you scrub tankers
Naw just climb a small hill. Jihad jeep DENIED. Unless of course they manage to somehow park it close, jump out, and detonate them.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
144
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Posted - 2014.07.26 21:47:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Tankers who are actually putting effort into the battle are being punished by a cheap glitch exploit and you continue to ignore it CCP.
I was in a battle full of LORD BRITISH so naturally they had a **** load of AV. But when that didn't work they decided to be complete douchebags and not only Jihad Jeep me...
But they did it with Boundless remotes as if they noticed I had two shield hardeners and wanted to blow me up with the cheapest bullshit possible...
If you want to scare a tank off or kill it very quickly, use a Forge Gunner. That actually requires skill.
GITGUD!
good tankers dont have problems with Jihad LAVs, most newbie tankers in militia stuff get too tunnel visioned and think themselves invulnerable.. a good tanker keeps his or her eyes open and knows when to back the F away
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
213
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Posted - 2014.07.26 21:52:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Larry Desmo wrote:its not a glitch exploit its a legitimate tatic that a little situational awareness can nullify. quit crying and deal with it sure thing, random guy in starter corp! any other ingenious, wisened advice?
HTFU?
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