So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

Well Eve isn't Dust 514 (Same creators but still a different game).

And I'm pretty sure at least one person has asked for a respec.

Oh you mean that one guy who was lined up against the proverbial wall and then ganked by a fleet of Tornadoes piloted by everyone else for wanting a respec? Yeah, I remember him.

I'm sick and tired of people asking for respecs now. Two years of people doing nothing but ask for respecs is just too much for me to bear.

Guessing he didn't make it

So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

You requested the respec just to skill the fotm again? Learn to play.

FOTM is a suicide pact, if KDR matchmaking is enacted. Respecs on demand with a big red button in the MQ, I say.

As much as I agree with you, you're putting logic to function, be careful with that on the internet.

So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

Actually no, I use what i want to use because i enjoy it. Like caldari to go with my eve player race. But it's obvious to me and i'm sure to you, if you do play that is, the you can see whole squads and corps in any mode run around with all samey stuff because it is OP.

The right place and time my advanced stuff can kill protos but when 6 guys in the same suit, weapons and who know what else steam roll the whole team, it's pretty stupid.

"Send in the...clones"

Sad thing about most of what your feeling here is completely based on assumptions.

Those same players in a squad that steam roll your team would have the same outcome if they all had plasma cannons. Or if they all had ion pistols and nova knifes.

That is the difference in player level, skill points and team work that is just on a different level then the average Pub is ready for.

Most of these players have their core skills maxed or near to, then worked on proto weaponry. Maximizing the isk investment you make into items, or making them the most isk efficient they can be. CCP can nerf any suit or weapon, with solid core skill your ability to adapt to anything is pretty easy.

In anygame where there is constant development, skills and items get tweaked all the time. This has been happening since the beginning of persistent gaming worlds. Every player gets affected the same and then are forced to adapt and learn the new circumstances around it.

But that actually keeps the game fresh.

In a game like Counterstrike, where everyone is put on equal footing instantly and then have to fight it out with player skill, weapons will have a self balancing mechanism that works with the game to make a somewhat even playing field of choice.

Where DUST is Rock, Paper, Scissors. Meaning everything has a counter essentially, no matter how good you are at some point your stuff will just let you down versus someone that has a perfect counter to your fit.

The argument that everyone is running the same suit and weapon in pubs make most vets laugh.. Other then some red line bullshit, those circumstances are the easiest to create massive killing streaks.

Dust was never ever meant to be the person with the best aim or gear always wins. It has always been the smartest player wins.

Sad thing about most of what your feeling here is completely based on assumptions.

Those same players in a squad that steam roll your team would have the same outcome if they all had plasma cannons. Or if they all had ion pistols and nova knifes.

That is the difference in player level, skill points and team work that is just on a different level then the average Pub is ready for.

Most of these players have their core skills maxed or near to, then worked on proto weaponry. Maximizing the isk investment you make into items, or making them the most isk efficient they can be. CCP can nerf any suit or weapon, with solid core skill your ability to adapt to anything is pretty easy.

In anygame where there is constant development, skills and items get tweaked all the time. This has been happening since the beginning of persistent gaming worlds. Every player gets affected the same and then are forced to adapt and learn the new circumstances around it.

But that actually keeps the game fresh.

In a game like Counterstrike, where everyone is put on equal footing instantly and then have to fight it out with player skill, weapons will have a self balancing mechanism that works with the game to make a somewhat even playing field of choice.

Where DUST is Rock, Paper, Scissors. Meaning everything has a counter essentially, no matter how good you are at some point your stuff will just let you down versus someone that has a perfect counter to your fit.

The argument that everyone is running the same suit and weapon in pubs make most vets laugh.. Other then some red line bullshit, those circumstances are the easiest to create massive killing streaks.

Dust was never ever meant to be the person with the best aim or gear always wins. It has always been the smartest player wins.

You do know you've made no point in all of that.

And don't say smartest in this game, it's a shooter.

Not going to happen, stop asking for it.
If you trained your character right, suit changes affect you for a few weeks at best. If you trained your character wrong, that's your fault.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/previews/dust-514-hands-on

Look it up.. Dust is "The Thinking Man's Shooter" That is the entire vision they built the game around.

DUST 514's counter-play for dummies.

In one reply I get a guy asking for proof while having a Sig saying Kd/R matchmaking will fix DUST.. Like you couldn't be more obtuse and completely blind to the actual game and how it works and then it's history. Then wanting proof for well established facts.

Then you, who goes wahh wahhh my gun is not as good as it used to be gimme all my SP back like I never used it. Never made ISK from it.. Never advanced my position in DUST from it. I want it like it was brand new! Wahhhhh.

This piece is for you and your kind.

Oh, and kdr matchmaking fixes this.

While I'm not asking for a respec, nor do I think CCP should ever give respecs again,

It's not someone's fault if they trained their character "wrong." It's not like there's a tutorial or an indepth encyclopedia of Dust gameplay mechanics and terminology. You forget that for a lot of new players, the way they learn is trial and error (and unfortunately sometimes there's a lot of error). Many of the vets and forum players don't have to worry about that too much because they're reaping the benefits of the forums vast accumulation of Dust knowledge and experience.

And if you say, well, the blueberries better get on the forums, you also have to remember that there is almost no notification of the forums in the actual game. No "come join the forums for more information" etc etc. I bet many don't even know the forums exist or if they do, don't know that it is anything more than people talking about anime or roleplaying (which there's surprisingly little of).

Oh, and kdr matchmaking fixes this.

I always wondered what it was like to be a shield tanker.

Its a bit like dying quicker on average I have found.

So? Eve Online players suffer the same thing every expansion and they never, during their 11-year history, asked for a respec.

No it doesn't.

I'm a logi and my KD/R is below, but near, 1. most the times it a .96-.98, I'm never going to get into a high level match that way unless you like that my 45 mil SP gal pro logi / pro forge / pro ADS would be in matches for players with > 1.0 KD/R