You would also be ******* up commando progression.
A new player planning on becoming a commando would have to put SP into the basic heavy frame. Because the basic heavy frame wouldn't be able to use light weapons, said player would need to waste SP on heavy weapons they'll barely use, or be forced to use militia.

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And to the person that mentioned that they see a heavy using a sniper rifle, if you look close enough its a commando suit not a sentinel suit doing that.

I have been playing Dust since opening week of closed beta and since then on of the most annoying aspect has been seeing a sentinel suit carrying a assault rifle. This is the noobish thing that any skilled player can ever do, run the highest tanking class suit with a light weapon especially now that we have things like the combat rifle and rail rifle and especially a sniper rifle.


Now before all the forum trolls with no life and nothing better to do them talk sh!t about things other deem as a serious flaw in the game. Use the brain that god gave you and think real hard bout this for a minute.

What is the point of having an assault class if the heavy class can carry the same weapons and have 2-3 times the hp that the assault class can ever have without having to sacrifice the higher end weapons. With a heavy class you start with close to 1k hp and with a light weapon you can use all the complex mods you want, while an assault class to even come close to the same hp they would have to use a basic or adv light weapon if not be stuck using a side arm which is basically a pea shooter.

I am highly in favor of restricting sentinel suits to heavy and side arm weapons only and let the commando suits stick to the light weapons like they were built for.

Now I ask the community, am i crazy to think like this? Am i crazy to believe that the classes should stick to the weapons that they were built for?

Well I sometimes run around in my minmatar sentinel with a toxin AR and Syndicate SMG. Why? Cause I can make a fit with over 1k HP, sprints as fast as an assault, better armor and shield rep than my assault, and costs much less isk.

That being said, it's still pretty lackluster against real competition. It's really just for cheap lolz against MLT medium frames.

Honestly, if you have trouble taking out a heavy with a light weapon then you're more of a scrub than they are.

God forbid a Sentinel chooses to exchange DPS for range...... god forbid........

In theory its "noob". However, lets take a minute to look at it in practice:

First off, is this something I do? Yes. Im even worse than you described because I use a RR instead of an AR.

Why? I got no choice. Im up against bankrolled corps who can afford proto suits in all games. Some of these proto suits have similar HP to a medium heavy suit. Also, those proto suits are proto armed and have complex modules loaded. So when I engage one, I have to use a clip or two to chip away his HP while hes strafes and jumps around, AND my suit has to withstand guns putting out extreme damage.

But then, you have to also add in the fact that some of these proto folks also like to play in squads. So im not having 1vs1 fights, im having 6vs1 fights.


What you propose, is that when these multi million ISK stomp squads pop over the hill with all 6 gunning for me, the only weapons I should be able to use is a short range HMG, a 4 second charge up 1 shot projective Forge Gun, or a sidearm. Yeah, seems real fair and balanced doesn't it. Your alternative is even funnier, in that I should be wearing a medium assault suit.

Atleast If I can load a RR and some mods on a fatsuit, when those guys try to ambush me I can surprise them by killing one of them, and duck for a bit of cover with the sting of my rifle keeping them back at an ideal range. It gives me the protection I need to engage multiple targets wearing super suits.

How about before we punish people like me in the name of balance, lets focus on fixing the matchmaker/squad system so that teams in each game are balanced?

I have been playing Dust since opening week of closed beta and since then on of the most annoying aspect has been seeing a sentinel suit carrying a assault rifle. This is the noobish thing that any skilled player can ever do, run the highest tanking class suit with a light weapon especially now that we have things like the combat rifle and rail rifle and especially a sniper rifle.


Now before all the forum trolls with no life and nothing better to do them talk sh!t about things other deem as a serious flaw in the game. Use the brain that god gave you and think real hard bout this for a minute.

What is the point of having an assault class if the heavy class can carry the same weapons and have 2-3 times the hp that the assault class can ever have without having to sacrifice the higher end weapons. With a heavy class you start with close to 1k hp and with a light weapon you can use all the complex mods you want, while an assault class to even come close to the same hp they would have to use a basic or adv light weapon if not be stuck using a side arm which is basically a pea shooter.

I am highly in favor of restricting sentinel suits to heavy and side arm weapons only and let the commando suits stick to the light weapons like they were built for.

Now I ask the community, am i crazy to think like this? Am i crazy to believe that the classes should stick to the weapons that they were built for?

I want to see heavies get an equipment slot. Then i can cloak and use a shotgun at close range and you would have pretty much 0 chance of owning me before i waste you even if your a heavy.

I want to see heavies get an equipment slot. Then i can cloak and use a shotgun at close range and you would have pretty much 0 chance of owning me before i waste you even if your a heavy.

I hate the idea of artificial restrictions like this. Can we look at this a different way and discourage fitting light weapons somehow through stats, fitting penalties, weaknesses etc?

Yea yeah.
What about this:
For example same rifle will cost less cpu/pg on asault, but more on scout, logi or heavy. So if anybody will wanna put RR on scout - no problemmo but it will force U to be paper-like.
Same on heavy. Ehp stuffed hmg or less hp heavy with rifle.

Shotgun can't be sidearm and can't be restricted to scout only. Same as heavy without ability to use lights.

I have been playing Dust since opening week of closed beta and since then on of the most annoying aspect has been seeing a sentinel suit carrying a assault rifle. This is the noobish thing that any skilled player can ever do, run the highest tanking class suit with a light weapon especially now that we have things like the combat rifle and rail rifle and especially a sniper rifle.


Now before all the forum trolls with no life and nothing better to do them talk sh!t about things other deem as a serious flaw in the game. Use the brain that god gave you and think real hard bout this for a minute.

What is the point of having an assault class if the heavy class can carry the same weapons and have 2-3 times the hp that the assault class can ever have without having to sacrifice the higher end weapons. With a heavy class you start with close to 1k hp and with a light weapon you can use all the complex mods you want, while an assault class to even come close to the same hp they would have to use a basic or adv light weapon if not be stuck using a side arm which is basically a pea shooter.

I am highly in favor of restricting sentinel suits to heavy and side arm weapons only and let the commando suits stick to the light weapons like they were built for.

Now I ask the community, am i crazy to think like this? Am i crazy to believe that the classes should stick to the weapons that they were built for?

I agree if scouts are restricted to side arms.


You can do that with a commando you know. gallente cloakmando with a shotgun ftw.

Why did CCP make weapon slots cascading? Maybe they should make an exception on that design, just for the heavy weapon slot.