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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.07.12 12:19:00 - [1] - Quote why couldnt they make it and not exclude 90% of the community and create a giant afk fest push most of the newer players away like all you had to do was make it so any lvl of weapon could be used so everyone could participate and not just the isk loaded old pc hoarders. i dunno the battlefields are just stale i have to roll with 5 other proto vets to stand a chance because im constantly bumping into full proto squads...and because of the event if i want my kills to count i have to make them ina expensive suit.. i dunno ccp just really seems like this event could have been allot better. all levels of weapons and suits should have been able to compete no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4034	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:35:00 - [2] - Quote There are no indications that new players are affected negatively by this event. We are actually seeing more balanced fights because most battles have more than one powerful squad. We think this is an amazing opportunity for our most dedicated players to put their mark on New Eden and I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. May the best player win and enjoy their reward. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 425	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:39:00 - [3] - Quote Eh, I'm okay with it. I'm not seeing so much proto-spam now, although that may be due to TZ. Also, I'm not certain it's a bad thing that there are multiple proto-squads fighting each other :P ((Anyway did you get your voice issues fixed?)) It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2062	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:39:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: There are no indications that new players are affected negatively by this event. We are actually seeing more balanced fights because most battles have more than one powerful squad. We think this is an amazing opportunity for our most dedicated players to put their mark on New Eden and I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. May the best player win and enjoy their reward. I think this is more of an "amazing opportunity" for those with hordes of ISK and can use proto 24/7. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4036	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:42:00 - [5] - Quote If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 172	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. GÇ£Their stupidity does not amaze me, its when they're smart that amazes me." GÇò Frank Zappa
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 427	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:50:00 - [7] - Quote Harpyja wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: There are no indications that new players are affected negatively by this event. We are actually seeing more balanced fights because most battles have more than one powerful squad. We think this is an amazing opportunity for our most dedicated players to put their mark on New Eden and I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. May the best player win and enjoy their reward. I think this is more of an "amazing opportunity" for those with hordes of ISK and can use proto 24/7. Were I of a mind to participate (I'm a bad and I can't compete with the likes of Tibs) I'd have ground out the ISK for two or three weeks in advance. Assuming I keep a KDR of 4-5 (poor for full-proto Viziam ak.0 when all I'm trying to do is farm kills, as opposed to actually trying to push points and win matches by PTFO but I'm a scrub and I'd be running solo a lot) over 7-8k kills I'd be running about 200M. Assuming, of course, I'm grinding ISK for the event, I could potentially pull like 150M in three weeks (41 hours of ambush at 200k per 'bush and 10m between matches). On top of the huge amount of matches I'd be running in the proto suit I'd probably end up going ISK positive over the course of the event. If I managed to find squads with good quality needles and repair tools, that could stretch a lot further. If I was using a weapon that didn't require 8k kills to win, it'd be even easier. Basically, if you don't have enough ISK to no-life the event, there's nothing stopping you no-lifing the three weekends beforehand to get enough. (forgive my midnight maths, it's very 'back-of-the-napkin'.) It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1584	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:51:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. ..... yes, because people who exploited PC ISK farming have to go positive in proto with hundreds of millions of ISK. Delt for CPM1 Moss-delt on skype
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:52:00 - [9] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. my point at least if they're weapons counted they would feel as if they hada chance. just seems like an event meant for old closed beta vets and at the cost of scrubs no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6262	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:58:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: There are no indications that new players are affected negatively by this event. We are actually seeing more balanced fights because most battles have more than one powerful squad. We think this is an amazing opportunity for our most dedicated players to put their mark on New Eden and I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. May the best player win and enjoy their reward. Mind checking the logs between 07:00 - 10:00 GMT...? My squad literally fought the same team four times in a row... Balanced fight, sure, but only because we were literally fighting the same people over and over again. Even waited a few minutes in the quarters to see if we could get into a different match and as soon as we queued it threw us into a match with those guys. Nothing against Opus Arcana, they're great guys and a real challenge to fight against but I like a little variety in my life... Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1

shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2441	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:01:00 - [11] - Quote This event is not enjoyable, i have a lot of different proto weapons, but i don't even bother to partecipate, i'm not a killer, i just play normally and there is no reward for all of us that do not play as slayers. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communist who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2293	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:06:00 - [12] - Quote Kdr matchmaking fixes this. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4039	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:07:00 - [13] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. If you are mature enough to admit that in this game, and in life, there are probably other people who are better than you at something, then that shouldn't bother anyone. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CEOPyrex CloneA The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 805	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:14:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. If you are mature enough to admit that in this game, and in life, there are probably other people who are better than you at something, then that shouldn't bother anyone. If you are aware enough to admit that the majority of the eventual winners were boosting on Oceania Server while the remainder of the playerbase ground each others resolve with both this game and event, perhaps this would have been perhaps, in the check and balance of things, a bad idea?
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 430	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:42:00 - [15] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. If you are mature enough to admit that in this game, and in life, there are probably other people who are better than you at something, then that shouldn't bother anyone. If you are aware enough to admit that the majority of the eventual winners were boosting on Oceania Server while the remainder of the playerbase ground each others resolve with both this game and event, perhaps this would have been perhaps, in the check and balance of things, a bad idea? Dunno about you but I'm pretty sure Tiberius at the very least played it legit - I was unfortunate enough to be on the other side once in the first weekend. I also imagine it'd be pretty easy to check who was boosting, and considering there aren't many people they need to check u don't really see it as a big deal. Why come on to the forums anyway? It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Beld Errmon 1775	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:47:00 - [16] - Quote shrug just another weekend for me, as cool as it would be to get to name an officer weapon I just can't bring myself to play nonstop for the entire weekend just to stand a chance, besides I hate running around with a gun, thats so 2 years ago pets incubus Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 957	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:50:00 - [17] - Quote I haven't noticed any real change in the marches I've played. The stompers are stomping, nothing new. Yeah, the event is a non-event for me, so what? Matchmaking will be getting some changes. We'll see how it works but I really haven't seen any game be able to do this well. Because, that's why.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 141	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:50:00 - [18] - Quote said it before and i'll say it again. I just really hope that ccp are very careful when checking the winners stats and vet out the winning weekend's stats to make sure that no boosters win these. also that they come down hard on the guys that did it
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4279	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:58:00 - [19] - Quote I can go ISK positive in pubs, running full proto, but I can't bother with this event because I've seen how awful stat tracking is in this game. Skirmish not counting certain matches for months. Event stats being so badly handled that rewards were delayed, incorrect, and even doubled in at least one case. 50% of the stats were removed from the fitting screen because their spreadsheets don't work. Known, proven Boosters & Glitchers receiving all benefits without reprimand. Need I continue? If CCP can't keep proper tally, then why bother no-lifing the event just to have your name on a weapon that you have zero input on? Cheesy event for cheesy players. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 4554	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:20:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. After hour 12 of constant I was most certainly going ISK negative and just throwing away as many suits trying to get kills before I passed out. There are people who are so rich the concept of going ISK positive does not even cross there mind. Earn 500Mil ISK Gentlemen's Club "No poors allowed" Chat Channel: Vik PC

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5243	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:28:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: There are no indications that new players are affected negatively by this event. We are actually seeing more balanced fights because most battles have more than one powerful squad. We think this is an amazing opportunity for our most dedicated players to put their mark on New Eden and I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. May the best player win and enjoy their reward. Spoken in true hunger games fashion I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^ CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6496	Posted - 2014.07.12 18:07:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: ... I do hope some of our oldest veterans will come and try to claim the name to their favorite weapons. Hahahaha Alrighty there. This is your issue, this is where you fell short. Due to the completely jacked up balance of your game this event really didn't work out in that aspect like it should have. I've got more than half a billion ISK left in my Wallet, been here since Mordu's Private Trials (which I hope you know what that is) and I had one free weekend to attempt this event and even I saw that there was an issue with this event. To even compete with this event you could not use an Assault suit (Outside of the Amarr of course) because the assault suits are too slow and have less killing potential than their Scout Counterparts. Forgive me, I have more than enough SP (about 47 mil SP) to throw away since there was nothing else left to skill into but there's no way I'm skilling into the scout suit that you guys have OP'd a while back just for an event. And no, this is not crying I could care less but more than anything I hate it when you guys pull stupid stuff and then think it's the bee's knees. I've been dealing with that crap for 2 years now. This is just to let you know. So, here I am making the point that one of your objectives to encourage older players has failed unless they have your broken suits. Once again, not crying. I play this game literally for FW and lore. see you space cowboy...
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11374	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:30:00 - [23] - Quote Why the hell are only proto weapon kills eligible? If someone is able to outkill a proto user by having the handicap of a lesser gear, then the lesser gear user is even more deserving. Why aren't kills with eligible weapons from the same category not counted together (example: ISK proto AR kills + LP proto AR kills)? This event is fundamentally poorly, unfairly, and irrationally designed. I'd love to here the BS rationalizations. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:32:00 - [24] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Why the hell are only proto weapon kills eligible? If someone is able to outkill a proto user by having the handicap of a lesser gear, then the lesser gear user is even more deserving. Why aren't kills with eligible weapons from the same category not counted together (example: ISK proto AR kills + LP proto AR kills)? This event is fundamentally poorly, unfairly, and irrationally designed. I'd love to here the BS rationalizations. i agree. completely +1 well said no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1293	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:45:00 - [25] - Quote i go isk positive in full proto but thats cause my full proto costs 93k "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14579	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:56:00 - [26] - Quote It's nice how vehicle players were included in this The Future
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1054	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:11:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. Because people who AFK farmed and locked their districts for months in PC truly are the definition of good. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14579	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:13:00 - [28] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. Because people who AFK farmed and locked their districts for months in PC truly are the definition of good. Sshhhh, you'll hurt their ego's. Everyone knows that stompers come to this game to boost their ego since in a truly competitive environment, they just can't compete. Just let them have their fun. The Future
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:15:00 - [29] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. Because people who AFK farmed and locked their districts for months in PC truly are the definition of good. see this is my point exactly ccp shoulda made it where any weapon could be used..anyway that they could have done that would have made this event great. because everyone could participate ,...this wont be a measure of skills it will be a measure of who has the biggest wallet no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Hand Fap Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:04:00 - [30] - Quote The tears in this thread are f*cking delicious.



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