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Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:28:00 -
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This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about.
 If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?
 A complete NPE (New Player Experience)
Full player market
Full racial parity
Proper tools for Community Events
Player customisation
Shooting Range/ Training Room
Corp Social Tools
New game modes / variants
Corp Contract Battles (again)
 If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks 
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:34:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:36:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:38:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
Ok. Now couldn't this be balanced in a Hotfix?
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:39:00 -
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So another vote on MM
Noted and Plus 1
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:53:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This So people with a high kdr cant find a game, yeah thanks...... |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:04:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:
Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
This So people with a high kdr could barely find a game? yeah no thanks.
Hmm You have a Point. Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM?
CPM1 Hopeful
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
936
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:14:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM?
Didn't people ask back for the old corp-battle system?
It's a win-win for people who don't want unbalanced games, fun games...
Yeah sure people are going to abuse it for their stats...but what do those stats really say in the current state of this game? |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:16:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM? Didn't people ask back for the old corp-battle system? It's a win-win for people who don't want unbalanced games, fun games... Yeah sure people are going to abuse it for their stats...but what do those stats really say in the current state of this game?
This is why I placed it in my selection in OP because it was not in the original question asked. I am one of those would would love to see it back in play.
Plus 1
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
11296
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:19:00 -
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This https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2246168#post2246168
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The current boring game mode situation to me is the absolute WORST aspect of this game, and it genuinely makes me angry because we had this really interesting and engaging mode (Skirmish 1.0) and it just got scrapped. I'm tired of doing the same things over and over. In the original Skirmish, one team (attackers) started out with an MCC that slowly approaches the outpost for docking, the other team (defenders) started out with control of all objectives. The attackers had to destroy both defense relays (a type of objective controlling all installations), then that unlocked the next stage; a new portion of the map was "unlocked", and the attackers objective then became to disable the null cannons that threatened to destroy the MCC before the docking.
I know its too late to expect anything as interesting or complex as the original Skirmish at this point, even when Dust had a full team of devs none of them ever made it a priority to bring back that type of gameplay, or to bring any genuinely new modes (Domination is just a tweaked Skirmish). There is a way I think the current Skirmish can be copy/pasted, and tweaked to produce something with similar gameplay as the original Skirmish 1.0:
A new version of Skirmish where the maps and objectives are just the same, but one team (defenders) starts out with the null cannons under their control. The other team (attackers) start with no objectives, but once they take control of an objective, the defenders cannot take it back (defenders can counter-hack while the objective is in a contested state however). Attackers win if they take control of all objectives. Defenders win if the null cannons destroy the attacker MCC before the attackers take all the objectives.
I suppose the attackers can also win if they quickly take the majority but not all of the objectives/null cannons, and the defenders lose because of the resulting damage to their MCC. Of course any side can also win by depleting enemy clones.
Game mode could be called "Assault" or something.
I don't know if this is possible at this near-death stage in Dust's development, but I think it should be relatively easy to implement.
To prevent the addition of a new mode from dividing the playerbase too much, add domination to the Skirmish queue, like how Ambush OMS is part of Ambush queue. Domination is basically Skirmish anyway with just a few less null cannons.
I'd really like to hear some brutally honest thoughts from devs about if his is actually possible.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:25:00 -
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A training room,or player custi....wait what kind like a suit or the face.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Mex-0
The dyst0pian Corporation
29
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:29:00 -
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Sometimes I wish you could actually be able to KILL SOMETHING with the swarm launchers.
The Dual Scrambler Rifle Commando.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11725
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:47:00 -
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Full Racial Parity.
I can tolerate the game modes and lack of market....and selfishly don't care about the NPE as in a client update it would not affect me.... though in the long run I think its a crucial things.
All I want is my Amarrian HAV. If giving the swinish Minmatar their tank is what is required then so be it.
"So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.07.09 22:22:00 -
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there's so many that would make Dust like 100% better, but I would love to have a player market... actually I would love to have all of them.
btw, I don't think kd/r is a good way to tell if a player is good. |
Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming
296
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:41:00 -
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I want the servers to be stable and consistent, I don't care if they say they can add so and so and hype it to the world's end. Cause at the end of the day what's the point of having all those pretty toys if you can't even have a smooth game where people are lag switching, or everyone in your squad suddenly teleports to the other side of the map. Once we have a smooth operating game then I think, we can go back to adding glitter to our guns and what not.
Dropship Gunner
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
Owner of a "Insta Bacon Machine" called STINGY
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3528
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:50:00 -
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Racial parity
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
Changes to the A-logi is the embodiment ofCCPLogic
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2150
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:02:00 -
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For the future of Dust we need a complete NPE and somewhat tiered matchmaking system.
The PS3 in the next 1-2 years will slowly loose market in North America and the European markets.
But the world accepts technology at different rates, Brazil for example to buy a PS4 is around 1800 dollars, India is in a similar boat, aswell as several South american and Asian countries which are huge emerging markets. Where in turn.. these markets are now accepting PS3's at reduced and affordable costs, with ttheir entertainment and streaming value, huge game list and rather large online store.
Sony has even admitted they where surprised by how new markets are accepting their PS3's at surprising rates and have now made public statements about supporting it for another 3 years and possibly further if the market is there.
If DUST and CCP can at least market their product on the PSN stores and build a "Ratatti Like Oversight" on New player Education and development and then matchmaking as they progress to 5 million skill points before being dumped into general population. DUST could find alot of continued success right upto Legion launch, or who knows? maybe in parallel.
For my own selfish wants? A full player market or racial parity.
For Legion's benefit? New map's or at least the basic layouts of them.. So they can start to be battle tested right now and adjusted before CCP launches or does anything. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:04:00 -
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We need new game modes man. It's getting a bit insane that Ambush is the only game mode that plays out how its supposed to play out. Domination is dead. Skirmish is a ghost town. We need something fresh. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4224
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:10:00 -
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Modes & Maps, Matchmaking, Market - in that order.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
4127
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:46:00 -
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Not taking my damn sidearm.
CCP Rattati ily!
AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2285
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Posted - 2014.07.10 04:17:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:there's so many that would make Dust like 100% better, but I would love to have a player market... actually I would love to have all of them.
btw, I don't think kd/r is a good way to tell if a player is good.
Yeah, but it keeps the slayers away from the sheep. And there wouldn't be fewer matches for slayers, just more competition. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when people sincerely want to hunt below their skill level for kills.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2152
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:30:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:We need new game modes man. It's getting a bit insane that Ambush is the only game mode that plays out how its supposed to play out. Domination is dead. Skirmish is a ghost town. We need something fresh.
Thing with this is more "Domination is dead" and "Skirmish is a ghost town". Then adding another game mode will further obsolete all 4 game modes.. and let's not even discuss FW.
The large problem with DUST is population, and then keeping the players that we do attract to make the download and attempt to give this F2p product a try.
Yes I would love to be greedy and ask for features that would make my direct gameplay momentarily enjoyable.. But largely if we can cycle in a group of players into DUST's population and start to retain them for a few months, Everything in this game will feel more lively and with purpose.
Sadly I don't feel this can be done right away or even in a month.. More like 2-3 months.
And in order to do this we really need to segregate EVERYONE that joins DUST 514 with a new character, take them by the hand and show them the way of the Nanohive,Uplink,MLT Tank,Dropship Lav,Locus,Flux,AV.. Teach them the different suit options and weapon sizes, walk them through what DUST 514 is And create some what of a journey in the process.
Then create a semi tiered matchmaking system a Battle Academy limited to players under 1m skill point players to play against each other in the starting area.
-1-5 million skill point players play in their own, with cut down smaller versions of maps and limited game mode selection.
-Then the general population public matches, FW's and PC's after.
Yes the starting area's aren't all the time going to be full 16vs16.. But with scaled down maps and the new nature and fast games and "taste of DUST" we are trying to give.. it will fit in perfectly for a player making the journey to 5 million skill-points and beyond.
It is the only thing that would fuel the legitimacy of development on things that Veterans would want, like Racial parity, New game modes, Player Market.. etc. |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
Dark Taboo
725
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:33:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Sometimes I wish you could actually be able to KILL SOMETHING with the swarm launchers.
dude the **** are you doing with them firing into a wall?
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14559
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:34:00 -
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How is this not a post about pipe dreams?
The Future
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
2331
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Posted - 2014.07.10 07:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:How is this not a post about pipe dreams?
Whether or not any of them come true is yet to be see. The purpose is fulfilled with player giving feedback with what they see wrong and show what they care about in this game.
Fiend if you don't care to vote then why care about this post. No troll answer
CPM1 Hopeful
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14559
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Posted - 2014.07.10 08:00:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:How is this not a post about pipe dreams? Whether or not any of them come true is yet to be see. The purpose is fulfilled with player giving feedback with what they see wrong and show what they care about in this game. Fiend if you don't care to vote then why care about this post. No troll answer
I just find it amusing to get peoples hopes up over things that very likely will never come to pass, is all.
The Future
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4948
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Posted - 2014.07.10 11:47:00 -
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Giving a shlt.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Mortedeamor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1805
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Posted - 2014.07.10 11:51:00 -
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not to have my sidearm taken off my a-logi |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3083
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:10:00 -
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I am going to pick three :
- roadmap
- scrum
- unit testing coverage
Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.
Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:17:00 -
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Full racial vehicles, MAVs and some new suit types *pilot suit*
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2285
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:23:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This So people with a high kdr can barely find a game? yeah no thanks.
You wouldn't lack matches with a high kdr, you'd just be paying the 16 nearest your kdr. Every time.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1876
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:46:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
Proper Hit Detection... 5 players shooting at the same time couldn't do any damage to a light frame... May be some server maintenance or something... Framerates on PUBS are lolworthy... Hit detection on certain players from certain Corps... Don't know if its the game or if those players are doing something special... |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2154
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:20:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Proper Hit Detection... 5 players shooting at the same time couldn't do any damage to a light frame... May be some server maintenance or something... Framerates on PUBS are lolworthy... Hit detection on certain players from certain Corps... Don't know if its the game or if those players are doing something special...
Hit detection works. Just completely assbackwards from how you would think it would work. It's more GTA hit detection then Counter-strike.
When your crosshairs "Red" is the only time CCP's servers and your playstation actually says"Ok your bullets will now hit" There is no dynamic hit detection and true hit scan weapons.
In Counter-strike you take your gun and crosshairs to the nearest wall and you fire at it... You see how your bullets travel and how your gun recoils and in what way ... The bullets then fly and behave around the characteristics of that gun in the crosshair, your learn how the bullets fly out of then gun and that is what you aim with.. Here is one of the more famous FPS players in gaming explaining what proper gun behavior looks like in a FPS. Bullets should essentially leave your gun and be able to slow down and see bullet trajectories. But there are only a few guns in DUST that do this.
In DUST? it's completely based off the "Red" crosshair.. Whether you are behind a wall, behind 10 team mates.. As long as that crosshair is "red" bullets are hitting you like they go through EVERYTHING else to get to you.
This is why even when your behind a team mate or walls your still getting hit.. Not because the server has your position different then your client. That is just a Cop out.. That would mean I would have to be in a completely different area on the server registry and so would my attacker by same theory and then how are the bullets tracking and hitting, how could the weapons actually be true hit scan weapons?
It's pretty evident CCP Wolfman just put a giant band-aid over the Aiming and hit detection mechanics of DUST... So even the way bullets register are completely ass backwards from any competitive shooter people where brought up on.
The Aiming and Hit detection mechanics of DUST in Chromosome made sense and created the sense of competition and player delivered shots. Uprising Aim assist and Hit Detection feels like someone is playing a giant joke on you when your playing.
It literally is the sole feature of this game that has created more rage quits then anything. Matchmaking has nothing on the poor concept and then implementation of the Aiming system and hit detection system of DUST 514.
I Do hope that goes on CCP Wolfman's Resume when he leaves. Cuz he did the same thing to MAG's hit detection when he worked there. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2154
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:33:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This So people with a high kdr can barely find a game? yeah no thanks. You wouldn't lack matches with a high kdr, you'd just be paying the 16 nearest your kdr. Every time.
You would just lack matches of any support roles what so ever.
Matchmaking needs to be done based on skill points. It's the only way that has ever been done successfully in any RPG PVP based game. And luckily DUST has the ability to do so.
You don't jump into world of warcraft.. play to lvl 20 and then they dump you in Battlegrounds with lvl 90's. It would make 0 sense.
Pretty much same situation here... There is no reason a player with 5 million skill points and under should be thrown into matches with a bunch of players who have 40-60 million skill points.
I would of loved a little more separation in the population, but it's to lacking in numbers currently to really split it any further. The Idea is more to create a new generation and group of DUST players that got to actually learn the game upto 5 million skill points before dumped into general population. |
Terram Nenokal
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
346
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:38:00 -
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Player to player secure trading.
It would be a nice temporary solution to not having a full featured player market, and I would love to be able to give my noob friends aurum gear to try out (I KNOW you like the sound of that CCP). |
hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:43:00 -
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A new game mode. Ambush is just a massive zerg fest with horrible spawns, Domination quickly devolves into heavy spam or roof camping and is almost always extremely one-sided. Skirmish I spend most of the time just looking for people to kill. |
Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2286
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:28:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
You would just get matches that lack of any support roles what so ever.
Not if high kdr players started playing support roles. And besides, high kdr vs high kdr drops someone's kdr every time, so the population would adjust automatically.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
436
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:32:00 -
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new game modes and variants... but I know I'm dreaming, so runner up is NPE |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
2331
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Zion Shad wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:How is this not a post about pipe dreams? Whether or not any of them come true is yet to be see. The purpose is fulfilled with player giving feedback with what they see wrong and show what they care about in this game. Fiend if you don't care to vote then why care about this post. No troll answer I just find it amusing to get peoples hopes up over things that very likely will never come to pass, is all.
Asking a question and making a statment are 2 different things. How can you get hopes up without making a statment on at lest trying to bring one item to life. Beside I'm not going to bull$&@! This community. I didn't during fanfest and not going to now. If I'm put in CPM1 you will see a pic of me pouring Kool-aid on the floor.
To the community, I'm here to get ammunition in the form of feedback connect to me name. For those that reacted to my twitte's during fanfest know this first hand. I fight for the users and thank u all for posting here o7
CPM1 Hopeful
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2287
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:29:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:new game modes and variants... but I know I'm dreaming, so runner up is NPE
Kdr matchmaking fixes NPE. Believe it or not, it even improved all game modes to the point where you don't need new ones to make life worthwhile.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Killar-12
The Exemplars
Top Men.
2926
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:49:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social ToolsNew game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again)If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
I marked both because Corp Battles weren't marked and CBs are a part of social tools
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
457
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:27:00 -
[42] - Quote
Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
Definitely new game modes. But not like generic game modes, should be creative, new, and most importantly not boring.(I've basically just been driving an Lav, wasn't aiming for road kills just driving, for the past couple of games) |
NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Proper Hit Detection... 5 players shooting at the same time couldn't do any damage to a light frame... May be some server maintenance or something... Framerates on PUBS are lolworthy... Hit detection on certain players from certain Corps... Don't know if its the game or if those players are doing something special... Hit detection works. Just completely assbackwards from how you would think it would work. It's more GTA hit detection then Counter-strike. When your crosshairs "Red" is the only time CCP's servers and your playstation actually says"Ok your bullets will now hit" There is no dynamic hit detection and true hit scan weapons. In Counter-strike you take your gun and crosshairs to the nearest wall and you fire at it... You see how your bullets travel and how your gun recoils and in what way ... The bullets then fly and behave around the characteristics of that gun in the crosshair, you learn how the bullets fly out of then gun and that is what you aim with.. Here is one of the more famous FPS players in gaming explaining what proper gun behavior looks like in a FPS. Bullets should essentially leave your gun and be able to slow down and see bullet trajectories. But there are only a few guns in DUST that do this. In DUST? it's completely based off the "Red" crosshair.. Whether you are behind a wall, behind 10 team mates.. As long as that crosshair is "red" bullets are hitting you like they go through EVERYTHING else to get to you. This is why even when your behind a team mate or walls your still getting hit.. Not because the server has your position different then your client. That is just a Cop out.. That would mean I would have to be in a completely different area on the server registry and so would my attacker by same theory and then how are the bullets tracking and hitting, how could the weapons actually be true hit scan weapons? It's pretty evident CCP Wolfman just put a giant band-aid over the Aiming and hit detection mechanics of DUST... So even the way bullets register are completely ass backwards from any competitive shooter people where brought up on. The Aiming and Hit detection mechanics of DUST in Chromosome made sense and created the sense of competition and player delivered shots. Uprising Aim assist and Hit Detection feels like someone is playing a giant joke on you when your playing. It literally is the sole feature of this game that has created more rage quits then anything. Matchmaking has nothing on the poor concept and then implementation of the Aiming system and hit detection system of DUST 514. I Do hope that goes on CCP Wolfman's Resume when he leaves. Cuz he did the same thing to MAG's hit detection when he worked there.
Very true... Counter Strike vs Dust is like comparing a shooting game vs Farmville... lol Hell even Serious Sam Had better hit detection.... I forgot about the Walls... The Proper aiming systems... Even now when i play BF4 or any other shooter after playing Dust, i get my ass handed to me for the first few rounds...lol
I've been shot behind Containers... I ran away from the area in a scout suit, but that HMG bullet spray followed me... You know the Circular buildings and Domes ?! I've had bullets follow me around the the curve... I shot at someone from behind, the person sprayed before dying, but those bullets followed me around the curb lol... and people feel L33T doing that... |
TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3843
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:04:00 -
[44] - Quote
Full racial parity or player market.
'Flips coin'
Racial parity.
Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:23:00 -
[45] - Quote
Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Bethhy wrote:
You would just get matches that lack of any support roles what so ever.
Not if high kdr players started playing support roles. And besides, high kdr vs high kdr drops someone's kdr every time, so the population would adjust automatically.
High KDR players do play the Support Role, They flank the Red Dots, Drop uplinks (Not the ones you see on roof tops or the ones facing the wall or the ones infront of Red Uplinks)
They also play the support role by keeping the other predators away... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5627
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:00:00 -
[46] - Quote
New game modes/variants, then new maps, then racial parity.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
2325
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
Racial Parity
I want my amarrian HAV + large and small laser turrets
If Not That Then Player Market
CEO/ Killing Clones Since Uprising 1.2/ ADV Omni Soldier/ Forum King/
God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
225
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
Echoist wrote:I want the servers to be stable and consistent, I don't care if they say they can add so and so and hype it to the world's end. Cause at the end of the day what's the point of having all those pretty toys if you can't even have a smooth game where people are lag switching, or everyone in your squad suddenly teleports to the other side of the map. Once we have a smooth operating game then I think, we can go back to adding glitter to our guns and what not.
I think you have network issues. I can count on 2 fingers the amount of individual games I've had with your problems in over a month.
All the complaints about lag/glitching/lag switches... I never see them. I was amazed to see this start popping up again a few weeks ago. I don't have some super connection to the web but I do have a properly configured network with a wired connection to my PS3. If you can get a wired connection, it helps immensely
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2289
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:30:00 -
[49] - Quote
NAV HIV wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Bethhy wrote:
You would just get matches that lack of any support roles what so ever.
Not if high kdr players started playing support roles. And besides, high kdr vs high kdr drops someone's kdr every time, so the population would adjust automatically. High KDR players do play the Support Role, They flank the Red Dots, Drop uplinks (Not the ones you see on roof tops or the ones facing the wall or the ones infront of Red Uplinks) They also play the support role by keeping the other predators away...
Someone is making my argument for me.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Top Men.
2337
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:I marked both because Corp Battles weren't marked and CBs are a part of social tools
This is true because it grows interaction between groups
CPM1 Hopeful
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Mex-0
The dyst0pian Corporation
31
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:45:00 -
[51] - Quote
On second thought, maybe nerfing the damn heavies a TEENSY bit? The Fatties are getting too powerful.
The Dual Scrambler Rifle Commando.
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Bionic Hunter
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.07.12 02:39:00 -
[52] - Quote
BLOOD Ruler wrote:A training room,or player custi....wait what kind like a suit or the face.
both |
Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
94
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Posted - 2014.07.12 03:05:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Not taking my damn sidearm.
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
30
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:40:00 -
[54] - Quote
Npe,player market, and new game modes.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Nrabatar Zorig
Nos Nothi
143
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:29:00 -
[55] - Quote
That god damned forum PM feature.
Shaman Zorig of the Vherokior Tribe
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
30
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Posted - 2014.07.12 08:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
Stuff like this would be helpful.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
859
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Posted - 2014.07.12 09:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Wierd, the one I want isn't on there.
I want a full respec 
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
4057
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Posted - 2014.07.12 10:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
Match ******* making
Seriously, even MARIO KART has it. In fact I'd say that Mario Kart 8 has the BEST matchmaking system I've seen.
If you place high you get points. If you place low, you lose points...but not as much as if you were to pllace high
If you have a high amount of points and you win against a bunch of noobs with low point totals you don't get many points for winning...which discourages experienced players from playing against noobs. You also lose a lot of points if you lose against noobs.
If you have a low point total and you win a race against a bunch of higher leveled players you will earn a lot of points. If you end up in last place against these players, you won't lose many points at all.
I seriously don't understand why a skillpoint based matchmaking would be a bad idea. Your skill points don't rise very fast over time, and a noob who let his account sit for 6 months would still be under 5 million sp. Even if they made it so that there was only two ranges...players with under 10 million sp and players with over 10 million sp, it would still make things a TON better than they are now.
10 million is debatable, but considering the vast majority of players having upwards of 30 million sp or more, at least the noobs wouldn't ever have to worry about running into them for a very long time. And best of all, us veterans don't have to worry about dumb blueberries taking up precious space in our matches.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Clone D
486
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Posted - 2014.07.12 10:47:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
Not everyone is a killer. Average War Points per minute is a better stat to use for matching players.
At the end of each match, the rankings should be in order of war points per minute due to the fact that an outstanding player could get thrown into a match with 3 minutes left and achieve 500 WP, which is an excellent contribution to the team, yet appear low in the standings in the current ranking system (absolute WP earned in match).
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2199
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Posted - 2014.07.12 11:08:00 -
[60] - Quote
Clone D wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. Not everyone is a killer. Average War Points per minute is a better stat to use for matching players. At the end of each match, the rankings should be in order of war points per minute due to the fact that an outstanding player could get thrown into a match with 3 minutes left and achieve 500 WP, which is an excellent contribution to the team, yet appear low in the standings in the current ranking system (absolute WP earned in match).
wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to complicated.
This isn't JUST a FPS game. Where your trying to measure everyones slaying ability then match them up based on that.
Dust isn't even completely about slaying.. Support plays near the same vital role and often doesn't score kills or WP's in abundance.
Then we start looking at how vehicles and AV works.. and how they completely score differently then mercenaries in every way.
This game is also a MMORPG like FPS game. So everyone is leveling their toon to then play a FPS game. You wouldn't have a new player Join World of Warcraft.. Level to lvl 20 and then through them into battlegrounds with a bunch of level 90's. It just wouldn't make sense.
Same issue in DUST.
Trying to segregate slayers out of the general population so they have to go play themselves in a perpetual group will hurt the learning curve of this game more then simply giving a place for new players to have a chance at competition. |
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1305
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Posted - 2014.07.12 12:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This So people with a high kdr can barely find a game? yeah no thanks.
You have to admit it is ridiculous that the vets and the top players get put against noobs and poor basics all day every day.
People should be matched against those with similar skill otherwise this game will continue to be a total joke for new players and casuals....
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2293
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Posted - 2014.07.12 13:04:00 -
[62] - Quote
I have 30 mil skill points. Newbs kill me majestically. Kdr is a measurement of who is eliminating whom the fastest. It's a simple stat, it's easily applied and calculated, and it tosses cheap tactics that kill in with skilled killers. The dross will burn away in the light of beautiful, glorious kdr mm. The only people who don't want it like a beloved son are petty kdr padders who live to stomp and nothing else.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
32
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
And also improve matchmaking.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2225
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I have 30 mil skill points. Newbs kill me majestically. Kdr is a measurement of who is eliminating whom the fastest. It's a simple stat, it's easily applied and calculated, and it tosses cheap tactics that kill in with skilled killers. The dross will burn away in the light of beautiful, glorious kdr mm. The only people who don't want it like a beloved son are petty kdr padders who live to stomp and nothing else.
Says the guy with 30m Skill points... that then wants to be matched with new players.
Double the SP of some of the best slayers actively playing the game currently.
Sometimes just take a step back and look at the big picture.. it helps.
If you put all the Sharks in the same pool.. And they all get tougher and meaner but take more losses.. How do they even have a high KDR to separate them?
How do you inspire lower end players to improve at all? what is the incentive?
CEO Pyrex and You should be placed in matches with other players that have high skill points, That is the matchmaking DUST needs.. Steel sharpens steel and you have all the tools at your disposal. At the same time you shouldn't be placed against full coordinated squads as a bunch of solo dudes.
The problem in DUST's matchmaking HAS and always will be putting 30m SP characters up against characters with 1-5m skill points, or even 8m tbh. There is no equal plain of competition that exists where players could then compete in that circumstance...
It's just my sh!t is better then yours because I have been playing longer "neener neener neener." I win.
Which is actually good but only in the scale of reach of that player... so a 1-5m skill point character should be fighting ADV skill point level mercenaries.. Wondering what he's dieing to and looking to buy that item or skill into it. inspiring to improve. Not seeing a Boundless HMG and a Proto Sentinel and the 3-4 months to get it.
That actually hurts sales instead of promoting them.
KDR MM is a silly concept based on selfish desires. We want the game to be better as a whole not just for a select few. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11853
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:17:00 -
[65] - Quote
I am inclined to suggest...
"******* Amarrian Tanks"
as a category.
Followed by...
"******* Amarrian HAV"
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
5278
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:41:00 -
[66] - Quote
Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
Stable Respec Option : so i dont have to worry about CCP nerfing my stuff every couple of months.
Stealth Storm
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2318
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Posted - 2014.07.15 08:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I have 30 mil skill points. Newbs kill me majestically. Kdr is a measurement of who is eliminating whom the fastest. It's a simple stat, it's easily applied and calculated, and it tosses cheap tactics that kill in with skilled killers. The dross will burn away in the light of beautiful, glorious kdr mm. The only people who don't want it like a beloved son are petty kdr padders who live to stomp and nothing else. Says the guy with 30m Skill points... that then wants to be matched with new players. Double the SP of some of the best slayers actively playing the game currently. Sometimes just take a step back and look at the big picture.. it helps. If you put all the Sharks in the same pool.. And they all get tougher and meaner but take more losses.. How do they even have a high KDR to separate them? How do you inspire lower end players to improve at all? what is the incentive? CEO Pyrex and You should be placed in matches with other players that have high skill points, That is the matchmaking DUST needs.. Steel sharpens steel and you have all the tools at your disposal. At the same time you shouldn't be placed against full coordinated squads as a bunch of solo dudes. The problem in DUST's matchmaking HAS and always will be putting 30m SP characters up against characters with 1-5m skill points, or even 8m tbh. There is no equal plain of competition that exists where players could then compete in that circumstance... It's just my sh!t is better then yours because I have been playing longer "neener neener neener." I win. Which is actually good but only in the scale of reach of that player... so a 1-5m skill point character should be fighting ADV skill point level mercenaries.. Wondering what he's dieing to and looking to buy that item or skill into it. inspiring to improve. Not seeing a Boundless HMG and a Proto Sentinel and the 3-4 months to get it. That actually hurts sales instead of promoting them. KDR MM is a silly concept based on selfish desires. We want the game to be better as a whole not just for a select few.
Logic so flawed, it is nearly other-worldly.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
218
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:54:00 -
[68] - Quote
My idea would technically be in 2 parts (for balance sake.)
1- Dropship weapon, bouncing bomb... Rather than just dropping something on someones head (no skill) it has to bounce 3 times before it explodes and can only be dropped from a low altitude (not that you can see anything above 10 meters most of the time anyway.)
2-Anti-gravity mines, if you're gonna have dropships launching bombs why not have mines that float 100 or so meters in the air. |
c1v1re soldier
New Age Tactical Force
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:59:00 -
[69] - Quote
Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
More interaction with eve players.
New Age Tactical Force
Come find us. Before we find you.
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1239
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:47:00 -
[70] - Quote
Nothing on that list is getting done for Dust. So the entire list is pointless.
Let it go, the thing is dead. You guys have everything they are going to give you, and that isn't enough to make a decent game out of.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
Jetpacks and rideable dinosaurs.
Since we're dreaming, might as well dream big! |
501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
287
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:25:00 -
[72] - Quote
What Hakyou Brutor said :) Full Respec fixes many things. It will allow mistakes to be changed, the competition to rise since I would rinse my hands of many things, and it just breathes new life into the game :)
NPE, I met a player with 20 million sp who didn't know about flipping proficiency. Either he was trolling me well enough to win a Grammy...or this game is seriously messed up
From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.
CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
552
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:38:00 -
[73] - Quote
I want bug fixes more than new features.
It seems simple, but fix the nanite injector. I'm certain that countless unnecessary deaths occur due to this equipment malfunctioning.
Fix remote deployment. How many vehicles are lost...?
Lower our frustration level due to bugs AND add new goodies.
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:24:00 -
[74] - Quote
GeneralButtNaked wrote:Nothing on that list is getting done for Dust. So the entire list is pointless.
Let it go, the thing is dead. You guys have everything they are going to give you, and that isn't enough to make a decent game out of.
Hey if stuff like this is the best way to get ccp attention then we will do it. And if leigion gets scraped then they have to turn back to dust.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
Xmar Handfelid wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Nothing on that list is getting done for Dust. So the entire list is pointless.
Let it go, the thing is dead. You guys have everything they are going to give you, and that isn't enough to make a decent game out of.
Hey if stuff like this is the best way to get ccp attention then we will do it. And if leigion gets scraped then they have to turn back to dust.
No they don't.
It's not a matter of "getting CCP's attention". Of course CCP already knows that we'd LIKE new content, but they've already made their decision: NO NEW CONTENT ON THE PS3.
PERIOD.
They tried, they failed, and they've conceded that continuing to develop Dust on the PS3 just isn't possible and, this late in the console's life, with the PS4 already out, there IS NO TURNING BACK.
By all means, feel free to keep playing Dust in it's current state, but don't bother getting your hopes up for anything new because, with the exception some more hotfixes, this is as good as it's going to get.
Expecting anything more would just be setting yourself up for disappointment. |
Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:56:00 -
[76] - Quote
Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Xmar Handfelid wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Nothing on that list is getting done for Dust. So the entire list is pointless.
Let it go, the thing is dead. You guys have everything they are going to give you, and that isn't enough to make a decent game out of.
Hey if stuff like this is the best way to get ccp attention then we will do it. And if leigion gets scraped then they have to turn back to dust. No they don't. It's not a matter of "getting CCP's attention". Of course CCP already knows that we'd LIKE new content, but they've already made their decision: NO NEW CONTENT ON THE PS3. PERIOD. They tried, they failed, and they've conceded that continuing to develop Dust on the PS3 just isn't possible and, this late in the console's life, with the PS4 already out, there IS NO TURNING BACK. By all means, feel free to keep playing Dust in it's current state, but don't bother getting your hopes up for anything new because, with the exception some more hotfixes, this is as good as it's going to get. Expecting anything more would just be setting yourself up for disappointment. Even if most of that is true did even take into factor that most people can agree on is that leigion was the biggest contender of stopping dust from ever being updated again. But think about it legion could get scraped at any time and there's a big chance of that happening since ccp don't even know if leigion will ever see the light of day. And if leigion does get scraped what do you think they are going to focus on Eve Valkire I only see Valkrie as little side project that's just there to give people with a oculus rift something to test out. And all this stuff could happen at any time.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:09:00 -
[77] - Quote
Better buy lots of Aurum then!
New content costs money to develop, after all.
Support Dust's imaginary future!
(FYI, the biggest contender of stopping Dust from ever being updated again was CCP, and their admission that their dream of what they wanted Dust to become just wouldn't be possible due to the limitations of the PS3) |
Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:16:00 -
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Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Better buy lots of Aurum then!
New content costs money to develop, after all.
Support Dust's imaginary future!
(FYI, the biggest contender of stopping Dust from ever being updated again was CCP, and their admission that their dream of what they wanted Dust to become just wouldn't be possible due to the limitations of the PS3)
Well since I got every single blueprint I wouldn't have to worry about buying anymore aurum. and yes it's true ccp were the big main contenders but if leigion gets scraped then they would have to focus on dust.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:34:00 -
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And another thing if Ccp want us to buy more arum then they need to bring blueprints back and add new ones to and if thy did then it would sell like hotcakes. And they don't even have to do a client update to add them back. I mean if they can add new militia weapons and remove militia hmgs then it wouldn't be hard to add blueprints back. And this from a guy that owns every single blueprint. And I wouldn't be surprised if they gave us that same excuse that they always tell people saying that it will break Dust's "economy" it won't.
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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Xmar Handfelid
GERO TECH INC.
36
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:58:00 -
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But hey it won't take long
"If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1344
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:19:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I have 30 mil skill points. Newbs kill me majestically. Kdr is a measurement of who is eliminating whom the fastest. It's a simple stat, it's easily applied and calculated, and it tosses cheap tactics that kill in with skilled killers. The dross will burn away in the light of beautiful, glorious kdr mm. The only people who don't want it like a beloved son are petty kdr padders who live to stomp and nothing else. Says the guy with 30m Skill points... that then wants to be matched with new players. Double the SP of some of the best slayers actively playing the game currently. Sometimes just take a step back and look at the big picture.. it helps. If you put all the Sharks in the same pool.. And they all get tougher and meaner but take more losses.. How do they even have a high KDR to separate them? How do you inspire lower end players to improve at all? what is the incentive? CEO Pyrex and You should be placed in matches with other players that have high skill points, That is the matchmaking DUST needs.. Steel sharpens steel and you have all the tools at your disposal. At the same time you shouldn't be placed against full coordinated squads as a bunch of solo dudes. The problem in DUST's matchmaking HAS and always will be putting 30m SP characters up against characters with 1-5m skill points, or even 8m tbh. There is no equal plain of competition that exists where players could then compete in that circumstance... It's just my sh!t is better then yours because I have been playing longer "neener neener neener." I win. Which is actually good but only in the scale of reach of that player... so a 1-5m skill point character should be fighting ADV skill point level mercenaries.. Wondering what he's dieing to and looking to buy that item or skill into it. inspiring to improve. Not seeing a Boundless HMG and a Proto Sentinel and the 3-4 months to get it. That actually hurts sales instead of promoting them. KDR MM is a silly concept based on selfish desires. We want the game to be better as a whole not just for a select few.
Either way there has to be some elemental level of proper match making or even match type selection. Easy, Medium, WTFOFFICERSTOMP lol. What ever it needs to be called and however it is done.
If the game does not provide for balance then let the players balance themselves out with selection.
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Mex-0
Comander's Capital
32
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:38:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Bethhy wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I have 30 mil skill points. Newbs kill me majestically. Kdr is a measurement of who is eliminating whom the fastest. It's a simple stat, it's easily applied and calculated, and it tosses cheap tactics that kill in with skilled killers. The dross will burn away in the light of beautiful, glorious kdr mm. The only people who don't want it like a beloved son are petty kdr padders who live to stomp and nothing else. Says the guy with 30m Skill points... that then wants to be matched with new players. Double the SP of some of the best slayers actively playing the game currently. Sometimes just take a step back and look at the big picture.. it helps. If you put all the Sharks in the same pool.. And they all get tougher and meaner but take more losses.. How do they even have a high KDR to separate them? How do you inspire lower end players to improve at all? what is the incentive? CEO Pyrex and You should be placed in matches with other players that have high skill points, That is the matchmaking DUST needs.. Steel sharpens steel and you have all the tools at your disposal. At the same time you shouldn't be placed against full coordinated squads as a bunch of solo dudes. The problem in DUST's matchmaking HAS and always will be putting 30m SP characters up against characters with 1-5m skill points, or even 8m tbh. There is no equal plain of competition that exists where players could then compete in that circumstance... It's just my sh!t is better then yours because I have been playing longer "neener neener neener." I win. Which is actually good but only in the scale of reach of that player... so a 1-5m skill point character should be fighting ADV skill point level mercenaries.. Wondering what he's dieing to and looking to buy that item or skill into it. inspiring to improve. Not seeing a Boundless HMG and a Proto Sentinel and the 3-4 months to get it. That actually hurts sales instead of promoting them. KDR MM is a silly concept based on selfish desires. We want the game to be better as a whole not just for a select few. Either way there has to be some elemental level of proper match making or even match type selection. Easy, Medium, WTFOFFICERSTOMP lol. What ever it needs to be called and however it is done. If the game does not provide for balance then let the players balance themselves out with selection.
A game being "balanced" is always, at best, a rough approximation. No game is truly perfectly balanced -- even in chess, one player gets to go first. A game being balanced is like a person being in shape; there's no strict, defined line at which a game goes from being in balance to out of balance. It's a gradual continuum.
The Dual Scrambler Rifle Commando.
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2321
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:32:00 -
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Except in Dust514, it's Bobby Fischer Vs Mohammed Ali, and CCP should separate them if possible.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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