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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:28:00 -
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This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about.
If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?
A complete NPE (New Player Experience)
Full player market
Full racial parity
Proper tools for Community Events
Player customisation
Shooting Range/ Training Room
Corp Social Tools
New game modes / variants
Corp Contract Battles (again)
If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks
CPM1 Hopeful
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:34:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:36:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:38:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
Ok. Now couldn't this be balanced in a Hotfix?
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:39:00 -
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So another vote on MM
Noted and Plus 1
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 20:53:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Zion Shad wrote:This was a question asked from the Dust Vote Match site. After speaking with a long time Dust friend Ydubbs of RND and hearing his thoughts, I thought this would be something good to talk about. If you had to choose one feature for a Patch What would it be?A complete NPE (New Player Experience) Full player market Full racial parity Proper tools for Community Events Player customisation Shooting Range/ Training Room Corp Social Tools New game modes / variants Corp Contract Battles (again) If you have an idea that is not listed please post it up. Thanks Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed. This So people with a high kdr cant find a game, yeah thanks...... |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:04:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Zindorak wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:
Simple kdr matchmaking. Fixes a ton of problems, and since this game is on its way out, it fixes most of the ones that are ever going to get fixed.
This So people with a high kdr could barely find a game? yeah no thanks.
Hmm You have a Point. Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM?
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RKKR
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
936
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:14:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM?
Didn't people ask back for the old corp-battle system?
It's a win-win for people who don't want unbalanced games, fun games...
Yeah sure people are going to abuse it for their stats...but what do those stats really say in the current state of this game? |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:16:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Now if PC was fixed wouldn't those players spend more time there? So it help with the proto stomping to have a better PC and maybe Tear restrictions on MM? Didn't people ask back for the old corp-battle system? It's a win-win for people who don't want unbalanced games, fun games... Yeah sure people are going to abuse it for their stats...but what do those stats really say in the current state of this game?
This is why I placed it in my selection in OP because it was not in the original question asked. I am one of those would would love to see it back in play.
Plus 1
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:19:00 -
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This https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2246168#post2246168
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The current boring game mode situation to me is the absolute WORST aspect of this game, and it genuinely makes me angry because we had this really interesting and engaging mode (Skirmish 1.0) and it just got scrapped. I'm tired of doing the same things over and over. In the original Skirmish, one team (attackers) started out with an MCC that slowly approaches the outpost for docking, the other team (defenders) started out with control of all objectives. The attackers had to destroy both defense relays (a type of objective controlling all installations), then that unlocked the next stage; a new portion of the map was "unlocked", and the attackers objective then became to disable the null cannons that threatened to destroy the MCC before the docking.
I know its too late to expect anything as interesting or complex as the original Skirmish at this point, even when Dust had a full team of devs none of them ever made it a priority to bring back that type of gameplay, or to bring any genuinely new modes (Domination is just a tweaked Skirmish). There is a way I think the current Skirmish can be copy/pasted, and tweaked to produce something with similar gameplay as the original Skirmish 1.0: A new version of Skirmish where the maps and objectives are just the same, but one team (defenders) starts out with the null cannons under their control. The other team (attackers) start with no objectives, but once they take control of an objective, the defenders cannot take it back (defenders can counter-hack while the objective is in a contested state however). Attackers win if they take control of all objectives. Defenders win if the null cannons destroy the attacker MCC before the attackers take all the objectives. I suppose the attackers can also win if they quickly take the majority but not all of the objectives/null cannons, and the defenders lose because of the resulting damage to their MCC. Of course any side can also win by depleting enemy clones. Game mode could be called "Assault" or something.
I don't know if this is possible at this near-death stage in Dust's development, but I think it should be relatively easy to implement.
To prevent the addition of a new mode from dividing the playerbase too much, add domination to the Skirmish queue, like how Ambush OMS is part of Ambush queue. Domination is basically Skirmish anyway with just a few less null cannons.
I'd really like to hear some brutally honest thoughts from devs about if his is actually possible.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:25:00 -
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A training room,or player custi....wait what kind like a suit or the face.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Mex-0
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:29:00 -
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Sometimes I wish you could actually be able to KILL SOMETHING with the swarm launchers.
The Dual Scrambler Rifle Commando.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:47:00 -
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Full Racial Parity.
I can tolerate the game modes and lack of market....and selfishly don't care about the NPE as in a client update it would not affect me.... though in the long run I think its a crucial things.
All I want is my Amarrian HAV. If giving the swinish Minmatar their tank is what is required then so be it.
"So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.09 22:22:00 -
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there's so many that would make Dust like 100% better, but I would love to have a player market... actually I would love to have all of them.
btw, I don't think kd/r is a good way to tell if a player is good. |
Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:41:00 -
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I want the servers to be stable and consistent, I don't care if they say they can add so and so and hype it to the world's end. Cause at the end of the day what's the point of having all those pretty toys if you can't even have a smooth game where people are lag switching, or everyone in your squad suddenly teleports to the other side of the map. Once we have a smooth operating game then I think, we can go back to adding glitter to our guns and what not.
Dropship Gunner
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
Owner of a "Insta Bacon Machine" called STINGY
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:50:00 -
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Racial parity
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
Changes to the A-logi is the embodiment ofCCPLogic
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
2150
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:02:00 -
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For the future of Dust we need a complete NPE and somewhat tiered matchmaking system.
The PS3 in the next 1-2 years will slowly loose market in North America and the European markets.
But the world accepts technology at different rates, Brazil for example to buy a PS4 is around 1800 dollars, India is in a similar boat, aswell as several South american and Asian countries which are huge emerging markets. Where in turn.. these markets are now accepting PS3's at reduced and affordable costs, with ttheir entertainment and streaming value, huge game list and rather large online store.
Sony has even admitted they where surprised by how new markets are accepting their PS3's at surprising rates and have now made public statements about supporting it for another 3 years and possibly further if the market is there.
If DUST and CCP can at least market their product on the PSN stores and build a "Ratatti Like Oversight" on New player Education and development and then matchmaking as they progress to 5 million skill points before being dumped into general population. DUST could find alot of continued success right upto Legion launch, or who knows? maybe in parallel.
For my own selfish wants? A full player market or racial parity.
For Legion's benefit? New map's or at least the basic layouts of them.. So they can start to be battle tested right now and adjusted before CCP launches or does anything. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:04:00 -
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We need new game modes man. It's getting a bit insane that Ambush is the only game mode that plays out how its supposed to play out. Domination is dead. Skirmish is a ghost town. We need something fresh. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:10:00 -
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Modes & Maps, Matchmaking, Market - in that order.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:46:00 -
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Not taking my damn sidearm.
CCP Rattati ily!
AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2285
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Posted - 2014.07.10 04:17:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:there's so many that would make Dust like 100% better, but I would love to have a player market... actually I would love to have all of them.
btw, I don't think kd/r is a good way to tell if a player is good. Yeah, but it keeps the slayers away from the sheep. And there wouldn't be fewer matches for slayers, just more competition. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when people sincerely want to hunt below their skill level for kills.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:30:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:We need new game modes man. It's getting a bit insane that Ambush is the only game mode that plays out how its supposed to play out. Domination is dead. Skirmish is a ghost town. We need something fresh.
Thing with this is more "Domination is dead" and "Skirmish is a ghost town". Then adding another game mode will further obsolete all 4 game modes.. and let's not even discuss FW.
The large problem with DUST is population, and then keeping the players that we do attract to make the download and attempt to give this F2p product a try.
Yes I would love to be greedy and ask for features that would make my direct gameplay momentarily enjoyable.. But largely if we can cycle in a group of players into DUST's population and start to retain them for a few months, Everything in this game will feel more lively and with purpose.
Sadly I don't feel this can be done right away or even in a month.. More like 2-3 months.
And in order to do this we really need to segregate EVERYONE that joins DUST 514 with a new character, take them by the hand and show them the way of the Nanohive,Uplink,MLT Tank,Dropship Lav,Locus,Flux,AV.. Teach them the different suit options and weapon sizes, walk them through what DUST 514 is And create some what of a journey in the process.
Then create a semi tiered matchmaking system a Battle Academy limited to players under 1m skill point players to play against each other in the starting area. -1-5 million skill point players play in their own, with cut down smaller versions of maps and limited game mode selection. -Then the general population public matches, FW's and PC's after.
Yes the starting area's aren't all the time going to be full 16vs16.. But with scaled down maps and the new nature and fast games and "taste of DUST" we are trying to give.. it will fit in perfectly for a player making the journey to 5 million skill-points and beyond.
It is the only thing that would fuel the legitimacy of development on things that Veterans would want, like Racial parity, New game modes, Player Market.. etc. |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo
725
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:33:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Sometimes I wish you could actually be able to KILL SOMETHING with the swarm launchers. dude the **** are you doing with them firing into a wall?
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14559
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Posted - 2014.07.10 05:34:00 -
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How is this not a post about pipe dreams?
The Future
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.07.10 07:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:How is this not a post about pipe dreams?
Whether or not any of them come true is yet to be see. The purpose is fulfilled with player giving feedback with what they see wrong and show what they care about in this game.
Fiend if you don't care to vote then why care about this post. No troll answer
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14559
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Posted - 2014.07.10 08:00:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:How is this not a post about pipe dreams? Whether or not any of them come true is yet to be see. The purpose is fulfilled with player giving feedback with what they see wrong and show what they care about in this game. Fiend if you don't care to vote then why care about this post. No troll answer I just find it amusing to get peoples hopes up over things that very likely will never come to pass, is all.
The Future
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4948
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Posted - 2014.07.10 11:47:00 -
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Giving a shlt.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Mortedeamor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1805
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Posted - 2014.07.10 11:51:00 -
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not to have my sidearm taken off my a-logi |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:10:00 -
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I am going to pick three :
- roadmap
- scrum
- unit testing coverage
Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.
Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2014.07.10 12:17:00 -
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Full racial vehicles, MAVs and some new suit types *pilot suit*
Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
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