I am okay with them having 'specialist' weapon variants. That still leaves a lot of light weapons, but generally slightly weaker, in compensation for being easier to fit.

Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.

Scouts need to have 2 sidearm slots. They don't need and shouldn't have light weapons.

I mean, I don't really have any problem with "OP Scouts" or anything like that, and this isn't really a QQ, but this is something that just doesn't feel right. I honestly don't think its that subtle.

I run basic Amarr scouts, btw. I feel more survivable using a MD than in my proto Cal Assault.

I think it's simple math. I don't think we need a huge amount of overhaul for an easy problem.

/shrug

High Speed + High Damage + medium hp = Typical Scout (If scout was fixed >:[ )






High Damage + High Health = Typical Heavy

Fixed.

Scout: 1 Light, 1 Side, 1 Equip (minmatar scout gets 2 equip), 2 Nades

Assault: 1 Light, 1 Side, 2 Equip, 3 Nades

Logi: 1 Light, 3-4 Equip, 2 Nades

Heavy: 1 Heavy (NO LIGHT WEAPONS ALLOWED), 1 Side, 2 Nades

Commando: 2 Light, 1 Nade, 1 Equip

EH?

Scouts need to have 2 sidearm slots. They don't need and shouldn't have light weapons.

I mean, I don't really have any problem with "OP Scouts" or anything like that, and this isn't really a QQ, but this is something that just doesn't feel right. I honestly don't think its that subtle.

I run basic Amarr scouts, btw. I feel more survivable using a MD than in my proto Cal Assault.

Bahahahaha

Also BS you know you never should use an Armor tank suit with the MD you need dat strafe & -20% to explosives.

There are no suit v suit natural counters and neither should there be. In many ways heavies counter scouts, despite people saying it's the other way round. Yes scouts can combat heavies, that is balance. In my opinion the whole Rock Paper Scissors thing people go on about is rubbish.

Buff assaults.

Proto logis are fine. Buff the lower tiers (apart from adv Amarr and Minmatar which are awesome).

So, lets kill off:

shotgun scouts
sniper scouts
marksman scouts
AV scouts
and any other scout type that uses light weapons...

For what reason, exactly? Oh, it doesn't "feel right?" It would feel "more right" to restrict scouts to sidearms? Is that it? Why? Why should entire playstyles be killed off? Why should DUSTs whole "freedom to fit" shtick be partially killed off?

The whole: "it doesn't feel right" ain't cutting it out as a reason. This community and even Rattati need more to go on than just feelings. For all we know, it could totally be bowel movements causing those feelings.

Scouts need to have 2 sidearm slots. They don't need and shouldn't have light weapons.

I mean, I don't really have any problem with "OP Scouts" or anything like that, and this isn't really a QQ, but this is something that just doesn't feel right. I honestly don't think its that subtle.

I run basic Amarr scouts, btw. I feel more survivable using a MD than in my proto Cal Assault.

So, lets kill off:

shotgun scouts
sniper scouts
marksman scouts
AV scouts
and any other scout type that uses light weapons...

For what reason, exactly? Oh, it doesn't "feel right?" It would feel "more right" to restrict scouts to sidearms? Is that it? Why? Why should entire playstyles be killed off? Why should DUSTs whole "freedom to fit" shtick be partially killed off?

The whole: "it doesn't feel right" ain't cutting it out as a reason. This community and even Rattati need more to go on than just feelings. For all we know, it could totally be bowel movements causing those feelings.

The suits that get the most eHP also are the only ones who get the freedom to run with the highest DPS weapon and the best AV weapon in the game while my assault suit cannot. Is that "Freedom to Fit"? No, it's called "balance".

Scout's advantage is it's scans, speed, regen, strafing ability, damps, 2 equip slots and access to cloaks. Not to mention their additional jumping height and sprint speed allow them to toss RE's ridiculously far, and that's cutting out the broken hit boxes and issues with brick tanking. They don't ALSO need access to high powered weaponry. And buffing assaults won't fix THAT large of a gap without making the assault game-breakingly good.

TL;DR: Balance>Everything

Edit: I'm open to better ideas if I hear them, but this is something that makes sense to me.

And logis shouldn't have a weapon, and heavy's can't have a sidearm, and assaults only get their light weapon and nothing else, commandos lose their EQ slot...so on, so forth. Id like personally to have a light suit variant that has only 2 sidearm slots, but has much better dampening and speed

I respectfully disagree baal... balance is not greater than everything...

not greater than fun.

not greater than staying true to core gameplay

balance is smoke and mirrors, it doesn't exist, it cannot exist.

the reason it cant is because of the player, you cannot balance the player.
case in point;

with all those abilities that a scout has, and all those limitations on your assault suit, have you ever killed a scout? ever kill the same one over and over again?

ever been on the boards above scouts using your assault? you see where I'm going I'll dispense with the interrogation...

there are serious issues with every build, and some are far superior to others and while I agree all gear in the game needs serious adjustment, all fits in comparison to other fits and tweaking accordingly is by far the only way to get the best result... and even then once the player is thrown into the mix you will still encounter variables you did not expect which can make anything at any time seem OP or UP.

and I'm sorry but restricting light weapons to any suit is not the answer...

Shut up.

Fixing Scouts can is not a one hit hammer problem. There are multiple problems with the Scout Suits but a solution certainly isn't to Give scouts two side arms

1. The Hit Detection is god awful, this is primarily a reason why scouts are a huge nuisance as they are now. When you couple bad hit detection plus speed PLUS 550+ eHP you're going to have an OP fit.

2. Fix Brick Tanking among scouts, there's no reason for further analysis. Any sound minded individual knows that Speed + High Damage + High Health among infantry in a game like this is not a good idea. You can have one or the two, not exceed in all of them.

3. Buff Assaults, because in this ecosystem of scouts, they have no predator in their environment. This is causing them to become invasive. Introducing a Natural predator to the Scouts will result in a more balanced ecosystem.