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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
645
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:37:00 -
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Should Sentinels be restricted to only heavy weapons in their heavy weapons slot? Commandos are the only heavy suits that should be able to wield light weapons IMHO. It's their specialty.
Discuss.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
241
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:45:00 -
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this topic was thoroughly discussed and laughed off the front page months ago....where were you?
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4902
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:46:00 -
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Perhaps when the Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar are released.
What's that?
They aren't going to be???
Well then GTFO
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2207
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:48:00 -
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What if there were a penalty of some kind?
Reduction to light weapon range
OR
Reduction to reload etc.
I wanted to make the OR stand out because I would be careful not to add too many restrictions, if one small one doesn't create a significant enough sacrifice, then another small penalty can be added. I think there should be battlefield variety, but I think there should be a little sacrifice without it being so significant to render the variations completely useless.
This is how a minja feels
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Lynn Beck
EnvyUs.
1975
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:04:00 -
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Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.'
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vlad stoich
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:10:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. |
Tectonic Fusion
1812
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:16:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. The scout doesn't have an exoskeleton to hold it.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2944
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:17:00 -
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Everytime I see a prototype sentinel with +1000 EHP and a SB-39 Rail Rifle. I laugh, the fact that they have to go to these extremes just shows how scrubby they are, then when I kill them I laugh even more, because all their scrubbieness still can't save them from skill.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10047
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:24:00 -
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I'm indifferent to the idea.
It should be noted however, that as long as a Sentinel is capable of carrying a long range weapon (such as a Scrambler or Rail Rifle), the argument about Sentinels being out-ranged by nearly everything is invalid.
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vlad stoich
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:31:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. The scout doesn't have an exoskeleton to hold it. Then my logi can carry it with nanohives. Thanks |
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2191
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:33:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. The scout doesn't have an exoskeleton to hold it. If there's one thing I want in my sci-fi FPS, it's rock-solid realism.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Seriously. Think about it.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10587
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm indifferent to the idea.
It should be noted however, that as long as a Sentinel is capable of carrying a long range weapon (such as a Scrambler or Rail Rifle), the argument about Sentinels being out-ranged by nearly everything is invalid.
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lunatis orrak
Battlefield Brawlers
31
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:36:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. The scout doesn't have an exoskeleton to hold it. If there's one thing I want in my sci-fi FPS, it's rock-solid realism.
Lol
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Denchlad 7
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
325
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm indifferent to the idea.
It should be noted however, that as long as a Sentinel is capable of carrying a long range weapon (such as a Scrambler or Rail Rifle), the argument about Sentinels being out-ranged by nearly everything is invalid.
I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. 5 to go.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2666
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:37:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Perhaps when the Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar are released.
What's that?
They aren't going to be???
Well then GTFO I think my assault should be able to use an hmg.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
194
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:42:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:this topic was thoroughly discussed and laughed off the front page months ago....where were you?
As if once a topic is ever broached all other forum goers are forbidden to discuss said topic whether they were aware of it or not.
Seymour, are you a bully in real life? I always thought better of you.
Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2945
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm indifferent to the idea.
It should be noted however, that as long as a Sentinel is capable of carrying a long range weapon (such as a Scrambler or Rail Rifle), the argument about Sentinels being out-ranged by nearly everything is invalid.
You can't outrange a suit, but you can outrange the HMG
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3367
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:55:00 -
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Heavys with light weapons are scrubs with terrible aim. To be honest i prefer a scrub with a light weapon then a scrub with a spray and pray machine where he just has to hold the trigger and aim in my general direction. Cause those guys are usually easy kills. |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:02:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Should Sentinels be restricted to only heavy weapons in their heavy weapons slot? Commandos are the only heavy suits that should be able to wield light weapons IMHO. It's their specialty.
Discuss. Noones complaining about it and theyre super easy to kill anyways.Why take away variety from this game?,look what it did to tanking it made it bland and unintresting. |
vlad stoich
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:09:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Perhaps when the Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar are released.
What's that?
They aren't going to be???
Well then GTFO I think my assault should be able to use an hmg. Absolutely with a cloak. |
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
3444
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:11:00 -
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CCP agrees with you and will be restricting the heavy to heavy only weapons.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2194
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:12:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Perhaps when the Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar are released.
What's that?
They aren't going to be???
Well then GTFO I think my assault should be able to use an hmg. Absolutely with a cloak. Heck, cloak the HAVs and LAVs and ADSes too!
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Seriously. Think about it.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
849
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:19:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then remove their sidearms, because the only reasoning you could possibly have for no LW is 'their fingers are too sausage-like, and thus can't hold them.' Then by your logic let my scout run around with a forge gun. The scout doesn't have an exoskeleton to hold it. Not to mention the gun weighs more than the scout.
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vlad stoich
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:20:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Perhaps when the Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar are released.
What's that?
They aren't going to be???
Well then GTFO I think my assault should be able to use an hmg. Absolutely with a cloak. Heck, cloak the HAVs and LAVs and ADSes too! Whoa whoa whoa tiger, don't go giving them any ideas. Could you imagine the tears? Could you imagine seeing it happen? Drives right past you cloaked but still shows up on passives? Then railguns you like a shotgunner.
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Sarus Rambo
Direct Action Resources
169
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:26:00 -
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The biggest thing that needs to happen to all heavy suits is to make their turning speed extremely slow. That is the real big problem with heavy suits in general. Max out the turning speed at something like 1/3 the turning speed of a medium frame.
Heavies should be monsters. They way they should work is if you get in front of them, you die, but if you are to the side and behind them, they are vulnerable.
This sums up 100% of the forum posts after Fanfest 2014.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
651
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:29:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:this topic was thoroughly discussed and laughed off the front page months ago....where were you?
Not here.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
652
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm indifferent to the idea.
It should be noted however, that as long as a Sentinel is capable of carrying a long range weapon (such as a Scrambler or Rail Rifle), the argument about Sentinels being out-ranged by nearly everything is invalid. .. This is actually a very good point you bring up. Also, thanks for not being defensive. +1
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14514
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:56:00 -
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Hmmm
Should I fit my HMG, my HMG, the HMG, or maybe the HMG today? I'm trying to break out of the mold so I think I might go with an HMG, but I guess if I wanted to change things up I could try the HMG or maybe even the HMG if I'm feeling frisky.
I could just be a rebel though and fit the HMG
Decisions decisions.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3932
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:00:00 -
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I could care less about sentinels with light weapons. The game is supposed to be about freedom of choices so let them.
I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
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axINVICTUSxa
DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:20:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:What if there were a penalty of some kind?
Reduction to light weapon range
OR
Reduction to reload etc.
I wanted to make the OR stand out because I would be careful not to add too many restrictions, if one small one doesn't create a significant enough sacrifice, then another small penalty can be added. I think there should be battlefield variety, but I think there should be a little sacrifice without it being so significant to render the variations completely useless.
Exactly my opinion. Marginal thinking, not extreme fixes. That only leads to QQ, if you slowly lower stats of anything, just so minor that players hardly notice, eventually you can take away big stats and make them small after a number of "releases and fixes"
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