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Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 713	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:14:00 - [1] - Quote Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:22:00 - [2] - Quote How are Gods that are amongst men, crying like infants? I figured you guys would have a tougher resolve. Could you answer this one question? What is the age range of your group?
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 56	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:35:00 - [3] - Quote Hey OP? Ssh. Men are talking.
Leovarian L Lavitz Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 1114	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:36:00 - [4] - Quote I've been militia stomping Gods among men since they first appeared. I first saw them and I was super excited, I was expecting a challenge. :( Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1503	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:50:00 - [5] - Quote Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Markul Gartel Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:08:00 - [6] - Quote The heavy is so overpowerd
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 717	Posted - 2014.06.26 14:38:00 - [7] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 717	Posted - 2014.06.26 14:42:00 - [8] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: I've been militia stomping Gods among men since they first appeared. I first saw them and I was super excited, I was expecting a challenge. :( A corp is a corp... I joined like yesterday. I bet you woulda talked sht if I was in, TUL, server true blood, The last of Dust, 0uter heaven, burRGZEZEZEZEZEZE, KEQ, subdreddit, Latino corps, brazil bullsht, ect. SO just stfu and talk about the topic. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Death Gently Sea of Sin 0	Posted - 2014.06.26 14:43:00 - [9] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway.
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 717	Posted - 2014.06.26 14:44:00 - [10] - Quote Death Gently wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway. I wasn't, but still, 200k suits die in a second to a sht fit. Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3

Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 647	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:12:00 - [11] - Quote MLT heavy with republic HMG...who fits that description.... "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1520	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:13:00 - [12] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote: I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray. Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject. Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5438	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:15:00 - [13] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 723	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:16:00 - [14] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote: I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray. Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject. As the history of dust shows, DEV's don't know sheeet. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1520	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:21:00 - [15] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. thats weird because when a knifer sneaks up on me I get 2 shot(or stabbed I suppose) and I use complex plates. Think it might be a hit detection or lag thing? Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1520	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:22:00 - [16] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote: I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray. Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject. As the history of dust shows, DEV's don't know sheeet. So far this has been the best dev yet. Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 723	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:23:00 - [17] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. thats weird because when a knifer sneaks up on me I get 2 shot(or stabbed I suppose) and I use complex plates. Think it might be a hit detection or lag thing? That's only if they have proto knives on top of Minmatar scout - Also, it's not a guaranteed kill because once a heavy turns around, they are toast in a second becasue, LOL, OP HMG. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10442	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:28:00 - [18] - Quote That moment when I'm out of ammo on my Duvolle, my backup is an Ion Pistol and I have to kill 4 heavies. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 724	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:29:00 - [19] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: So far this has been the best dev yet. But, he fails to notice and sometimes fix major issues. PG of KinCats Minmatar scout PG Snipers are sheet Flaylock is awful HMG IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PYTHON IS WEAK!!!! LARGE MISSILES ARE SHEET FW is broken RDV's dropping pythons from 20m high up (instapopping it) Shield collision damage Random terrain bugs God awful maps still exist like domination on manus peek. Equipment spam Amarr scout sucks LAV's instapopping when lightly bumping tank Caldari Assault Gallante Assault. Ion pistol ect. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 724	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:31:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: That moment when I'm out of ammo on my Duvolle, my backup is an Ion Pistol and I have to kill 4 heavies. More like the moment you realize that you wasted a whole clip of a duvolle and still didn't kill the heavy.. The moment you realize that a militia heavy just smoked you at 40 meters range with his HMG against your assault rifle. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3

Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 532	Posted - 2014.06.26 15:41:00 - [21] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: So far this has been the best dev yet. But, he fails to notice and sometimes fix major issues. Cut Rattati some (a lot) of slack! In the short time he's been in charge of organising DUST updates he's managed to push through two very effective hotfixes in a short timeframe while still involving the community much more heavily than anyone before him. Rattati is our saviour and our Lord, to blaspheme against him to sin like none before you! I love you Rattati...
CRNWLLC Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 323	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:33:00 - [22] - Quote Yeah, I'm on board with this. If I remember correctly, the heat buildup on HMGs decreases as tiers increase, which I don't think is the case for any other weapon with an overheat mechanic. That difference alone is ridiculous, and contributes to my aggro when I get killed by a militia heavy with an advanced+ HMG. On this note, here's some proof that fatsuits are OP: it is no problem to fit a lower level milita/standard frame with a combo of advanced and complex mods/weapons. This is not the case for any other class of suit without maxed skills, and even then it's not possible to go all complex on a proto suit for some frames. Also, maybe it's just me, but I swear the lockup from taking HMG fire has barely improved--I still feel like I'm running underwater any time I try to escape HMG fire within 30 meters.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 453	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:42:00 - [23] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. I fight them at range, engage with multiples, sneak them, pop grenades first, but in the end if you are in their range alone you are in the meat grinder. I like the heavies being as powerful as they are. It sets the stage for the other pieces to work.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 453	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:45:00 - [24] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. I posted months ago this would be the case once scouts were gotten under control, unfortunately that HMG is the only thing keeping scouts from running Dust.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 453	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:47:00 - [25] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: How are Gods that are amongst men, crying like infants? I figured you guys would have a tougher resolve. Could you answer this one question? What is the age range of your group? They are all Cal Scouts.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 739	Posted - 2014.06.26 16:54:00 - [26] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 456	Posted - 2014.06.26 17:16:00 - [27] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot. Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
Hynox Xitio 0uter.Heaven 1347	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:18:00 - [28] - Quote Crying is not how you get weapons nerfed. Especially so given that it's just mob mentality. Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams. ( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1456	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:35:00 - [29] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Then they cry about scouts one shorting them with remotes till they get NERFED ! Makes total sense eh SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
test dude69 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:43:00 - [30] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot. only people that complain about heavys are people that use incredibly bad tactics to fight them.

Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 731	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:48:00 - [31] - Quote test dude69 wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot. only people that complain about heavys are people that use incredibly bad tactics to fight them. There are only 3 tactics... RE's, Nova Knives, Shotgun... OR you hit em from 60m away but lol, what map hap points right out in the open... They r8pe in CQC and medium range and it's stupid. FYI- I am a Prototype Amarr heavy with proficiency 4 in HMG.. Still I want it nerfed. It seems like there are ways to counter you when your in a heavy suit but when you step out of it you know how fking OP you are. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 458	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:54:00 - [32] - Quote If a heavy starts landing HMG bullets on you and you didn't know he was there......death should rapidly ensue no? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 731	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:55:00 - [33] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Then they cry about scouts one shorting them with remotes till they get NERFED ! Makes total sense eh Remotes make noise, the heavy can down a scout before remotes even deploy.. Any way, what about heavies vaporizing everything in under 2 seconds including other heavies. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 731	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:56:00 - [34] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: If a heavy starts landing HMG bullets on you and you didn't know he was there......death should rapidly ensue no? If a guy with a rifle starts landing bullets on a HMG heavy and the HMG Heavy doesn't know you were there... guess what... the HMG heavy turns around in .01 seconds and drops you in .01 seconds. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 731	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:58:00 - [35] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you??? *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1602	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:05:00 - [36] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you??? Shotgun, remote explosives, or fighting from a distance will take down heavys easily. My gal assault with tac AR takes down heavys very easily.
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 731	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:06:00 - [37] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you??? Shotgun, remote explosives, or fighting from a distance will take down heavys easily. My gal assault with tac AR takes down heavys very easily. Heavies in LAV's... They can move fast over ground and once at CQC they will own you/ anybody. Also, they don't need that much firepower to own in CQC so how about we nerf them and they can still own. take RPM from 2400 to 2000. Like good ol chromosome. Come within 40m and I'll drop you personally. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 130	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:14:00 - [38] - Quote There are many ways how to kill fatty. If scout wears any kind of rifle except shotgun against heavy well... You do it wrong. With rifle U can shoot every kind of suit except heavy. There's no such as Wunderwaffe. U can't have one weapon for everybody. I got adv amarr scout and I don't see problem killing heavy if it's done properly. I don't even got prof on shotgun but from behind it takes 2-4 shoots to kill any heavy. Four rounds are reserved for fat fat gal hmg. I can kill heavy with my dragonfly cal assault using flux and standard rail. There's no problem with them when U cook their a.. by laser. No weapon should outrun HMG dps if it's 40m or less.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1602	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:44:00 - [39] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you??? Shotgun, remote explosives, or fighting from a distance will take down heavys easily. My gal assault with tac AR takes down heavys very easily. Heavies in LAV's... They can move fast over ground and once at CQC they will own you/ anybody. Also, they don't need that much firepower to own in CQC so how about we nerf them and they can still own. take RPM from 2400 to 2000. Like good ol chromosome. Come within 40m and I'll drop you personally. Remotes blow up lavs Lavs cant go inside Tanks blow up lavs You can decrease the Rof when they get chromosome range back The whole reason it got a faster rof was to make up for the decreased accuraccy it got at the same time.
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1665	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:47:00 - [40] - Quote The HMG is not OP. It is right where it needs to be. You concerns should be address as why is there no assaults left in the game to counter the heavy the answer is everyone went scout now the heavy is destroying them. If you want balance stop the nerf brigade and try and reason with CCP about making the assault viable again. Again the HMG is fine. Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique

jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1561	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:53:00 - [41] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: There are many ways how to kill fatty. If scout wears any kind of rifle except shotgun against heavy well... You do it wrong. With rifle U can shoot every kind of suit except heavy. There's no such as Wunderwaffe. U can't have one weapon for everybody. I got adv amarr scout and I don't see problem killing heavy if it's done properly. I don't even got prof on shotgun but from behind it takes 2-4 shoots to kill any heavy. Four rounds are reserved for fat fat gal hmg. I can kill heavy with my dragonfly cal assault using flux and standard rail. There's no problem with them when U cook their a.. by laser. No weapon should outrun HMG dps if it's 40m or less. http://imgur.com/pu40zNw Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 458	Posted - 2014.06.26 20:01:00 - [42] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: If a heavy starts landing HMG bullets on you and you didn't know he was there......death should rapidly ensue no? If a guy with a rifle starts landing bullets on a HMG heavy and the HMG Heavy doesn't know you were there... guess what... the HMG heavy turns around in .01 seconds and drops you in .01 seconds. I dunno I play scout so I can't say...but I kill heavy, heavy kills me, I haven't really counted but I don't feel like heavy is OP. Working as intended imo - at least from a scout vs heavy perspective. I know I've messed up if the heavy gets me in his sights unless I've almost finished him. Your OP was talking about reaction times - I'm suggesting if you leave it to reactions against an HMG, you should die. Shotty versus HMG at close range is all about using agility advantage against DPS. And making sure you land the first shot. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Tectonic Fusion 1779	Posted - 2014.06.26 21:08:00 - [43] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Death Gently wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway. I wasn't, but still, 200k suits die in a second to a sh*t fit. Well...you have about as much EHP as my basic suit (740 EHP cal assault but meh). Anyways, try to not get in their way and ask for an assault buff.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2936	Posted - 2014.06.26 21:27:00 - [44] - Quote Hmmm a few things that don't add up. Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. *This is called TACTICS and TEAMWORK, these two are designed to be overpowered after all this is a team-based game.* this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. Didn't I use to say the same thing about tanks? So how does that work? Futhermore there are considerably more overpowered weapons such as the assault rail rifle, burst combat rifle, light missile turrets. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. *You have less than 400 EHP?, please don't over exaggerate, if you do have less than 400 EHP, why are you gettimg spotted by a heavy?* Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. *Once again you are over exaggerating, the shotgun is currently more popular than the HMG and the gallante, caldari and amarr scout suits have more than 45% of the market share, go figure.* So I'll just casually leave this her, if you wamt to claim something as overpowered please back it up with evidence, for the case of the HMG there is none. My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1561	Posted - 2014.06.26 21:36:00 - [45] - Quote Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 130	Posted - 2014.06.26 21:57:00 - [46] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be.
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1561	Posted - 2014.06.26 22:02:00 - [47] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. You mean 90% of the map? Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
Schecter 666 79	Posted - 2014.06.26 22:02:00 - [48] - Quote NERF THE HMG
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11238	Posted - 2014.06.26 22:03:00 - [49] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. Dude half the fictional girls cartoon characters from My Little Pony are harder than some members of this community..... its kind of pathetic. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 734	Posted - 2014.06.26 22:23:00 - [50] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Hmmm a few things that don't add up. Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. *This is called TACTICS and TEAMWORK, these two are designed to be overpowered after all this is a team-based game.* this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. Didn't I use to say the same thing about tanks? So how does that work? Futhermore there are considerably more overpowered weapons such as the assault rail rifle, burst combat rifle, light missile turrets. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. *You have less than 400 EHP?, please don't over exaggerate, if you do have less than 400 EHP, why are you gettimg spotted by a heavy?* Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. *Once again you are over exaggerating, the shotgun is currently more popular than the HMG and the gallante, caldari and amarr scout suits have more than 45% of the market share, go figure.* So I'll just casually leave this her, if you wamt to claim something as overpowered please back it up with evidence, for the case of the HMG there is none. 1.) It doesn't matter how much HP you have, HMG kills you in an instant. 2.) Since when did swarming a room not become a tactic? If 16 people swarmed a room all wearing STD assaults, they will get obliterated by a STD heavy with STD HMG backed up by a logi. ( I am a heavy and can literally destroy the enemy team myself getting 30-40 kills in a match with ease using a STD amarr heavy) 3.) Shotgun is nowhere near as popular as the HMG. You must be out of your mind dude. Ever match, the kill feed consists of 50 HMG kills. 4.) HMG is OP, it's more powerful now than it has been in freking chromosome. Small missiles-whatever, at least it takes some skill to use an ADS. The HMG, you press r1 and do a 360 and you kill everybody in the room. assault rail rifle- lol- what??? wtf? The last time I saw this in the killfeed was a long time ago. Assault combat rifle?? It's just a worse SMG. 5.) stop throwing random numbers at me. 45%, where the ef did that come from? your ass? Barley anyone uses caldari assault-minmatar scout-amarr scout- gallante assault- minmatar assault. All other suits in the game are frequently used. Heavies are probably more spammed than scouts just because of HMG. Come on now.. who can't resist the instakill death ray coupled with the highest HP suit in the game. Fin... Also- TTK a HMG heavy is like 6-8-9-10 seconds with a rifle, TTK a assault while using the HMG is about .5 seconds. I used the darn thing today and it's easier than the swarm launcher. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2018	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:15:00 - [51] - Quote Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it. You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good... Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work. Same as the shotgun.
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 737	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:20:00 - [52] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it. You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good... Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work. Same as the shotgun. how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1562	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:21:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. Dude half the fictional girls cartoon characters from My Little Pony are harder than some members of this community..... its kind of pathetic. Harder? Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2018	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:24:00 - [54] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Bethhy wrote: Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it. You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good... Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work. Same as the shotgun. how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective. How about just letting the gun work as intended. The bandaid's that have been installed imbalance the weapon and always have since it has been implemented. You can change a little number here or there but the problem with HMG and shotgun always has been same problem. Post all you like about this and that... it is what it is.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11246	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:27:00 - [55] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: True Adamance wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. Dude half the fictional girls cartoon characters from My Little Pony are harder than some members of this community..... its kind of pathetic. Harder? Tougher " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 739	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:30:00 - [56] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Bethhy wrote: Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it. You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good... Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work. Same as the shotgun. how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective. How about just letting the gun work as intended. The bandaid's that have been installed imbalance the weapon and always have since it has been implemented. You can change a little number here or there but the problem with HMG and shotgun always has been same problem. Post all you like about this and that... it is what it is. The way I would fix it is reducing the RPM to 2000 like it should be and not 2400. Anyone from Chromosome knows that those days were the glory days. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1529	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:35:00 - [57] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Bethhy wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Bethhy wrote: Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it. You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good... Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work. Same as the shotgun. how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective. How about just letting the gun work as intended. The bandaid's that have been installed imbalance the weapon and always have since it has been implemented. You can change a little number here or there but the problem with HMG and shotgun always has been same problem. Post all you like about this and that... it is what it is. The way I would fix it is reducing the RPM to 2000 like it should be and not 2400. Anyone from Chromosome knows that those days were the glory days. You could still spray and pray IF anything I'd prefer the heatup rate be increased(SLIGHTLY) Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:40:00 - [58] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. Uh...Please tell me how I kill heavies with a STD Breach Assault Rifle in a scout suit, or STD Commando Suit that costs me 7.5k at max? lol I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4044	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:44:00 - [59] - Quote How are you complaining about a Militia Heavy and 1900 HP at the same time? Your mistake was spending 200k on a (presumably) Light or Scout suit and trying brick tank it and run it like an Assault. Lower Rep Tool Replenish Rate and/or remove the ability to Rep 2 at once. Done. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 132	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:22:00 - [60] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: Yeah, I'm on board with this. If I remember correctly, the heat buildup on HMGs decreases as tiers increase, which I don't think is the case for any other weapon with an overheat mechanic. That difference alone is ridiculous, and contributes to my aggro when I get killed by a militia heavy with an advanced+ HMG. On this note, here's some proof that fatsuits are OP: it is no problem to fit a lower level milita/standard frame with a combo of advanced and complex mods/weapons. This is not the case for any other class of suit without maxed skills, and even then it's not possible to go all complex on a proto suit for some frames. Also, maybe it's just me, but I swear the lockup from taking HMG fire has barely improved--I still feel like I'm running underwater any time I try to escape HMG fire within 30 meters. First of all you are no longer correct on the statement of heat build up being reduced on the HMG. At one point the operation skill did decrease but it was removed a few builds ago. I have also felt the stun effect still being applied from time to time. I am not sure what triggers the occurrence as it doesn't happen all the time Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR

Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 132	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:38:00 - [61] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. You mean 90% of the map? Are you serious about this statement???? 90% of the maps are cqc...? Troll post Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
Kurai Ronin Very Dangerous F'kn People 1	Posted - 2014.06.28 02:00:00 - [62] - Quote Markul Gartel wrote: The heavy is so overpowerd no they aren't and I don't use heavies its just that I easily kill them. just use a flux an armor destroying weapon and you're fine
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1698	Posted - 2014.06.28 03:47:00 - [63] - Quote Been back for like a week and only going to be around for a couple more days this time around. Can run scout/sent/logi and spamming proto suits solo in doms for a couple hours was fun. So thoughts so far... as far as infantry vs infantry? ** seems to be pretty balanced to be honest. shields suck ass but that must be the pendulum still stuck from the ck.0 logi era. it seems to be a higher DPS game in general than when i left in november. might just be me though. HMG sent gets wtfpwned at ranged standoffs or against MORE sents unless your opponents suck. if i come around a corner on you and three friends in militia gear then yeah... i will curb stomp you in 2 seconds flat. but the fact is... you LET that happen. i'm slow, can't carry a scanner and have a fat ass sig radius. in my limited recent experience the only light weapon that doesn't have a range sweetspot against the HMG is the shotgun. and those things'll still take me out in less than a clip if it's a jumpy scout on my ass. spend most of my time in a scout with a tac AR or CR trying to solo squads to be honest. just more fun being mobile these days. tried out an aur ck.0 logi and LOL suit is so hamstrung lol. but i dirgress. it's a tradeoff thing. and very map dependent unless you don't know wtf you're doing. SP has been ticking for 16 months+ for those who have been around since the beginning. if you can't play more than one role to the point that you *** about the rock smacking your scissors... play better? get space rich? get gud? /shrug GLHF. "Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."
Thurak1 Psygod9 792	Posted - 2014.06.28 03:50:00 - [64] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Lol newb get good. if you cant take out a hmg you are doing it wrong. Heavies almost never have any sp in dampening and have a pretty high db sig to start with and they are sneaking up on you? dam man open those eyes.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1698	Posted - 2014.06.28 03:59:00 - [65] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Lol newb get good. if you cant take out a hmg you are doing it wrong. Heavies almost never have any sp in dampening and have a pretty high db sig to start with and they are sneaking up on you? dam man open those eyes. And I'll just add that comparison to TARs (i.e. current in-your-face HMG damage... at Range with no meaningful dispersion) or Godlocks ("aim? who aims? i let my 2 year old pull the trigger twice and 3 people die") is laughable. "Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 986	Posted - 2014.06.28 04:02:00 - [66] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: True Adamance wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. Dude half the fictional girls cartoon characters from My Little Pony are harder than some members of this community..... its kind of pathetic. Harder? As in their nonexistent cartoon horse-wieners are "harder" than the real wieners of some real people here. Which has a lot more meaning than the bland but also possible meaning of "tougher" Umm.... Anyway, buff assaults before [inappropriately] touching my HMG, lest I call CONCORD. I am a minotaur.
Thurak1 Psygod9 792	Posted - 2014.06.28 06:47:00 - [67] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Lol newb get good. if you cant take out a hmg you are doing it wrong. Heavies almost never have any sp in dampening and have a pretty high db sig to start with and they are sneaking up on you? dam man open those eyes. And I'll just add that comparison to TARs (i.e. current in-your-face HMG damage... at Range with no meaningful dispersion) or Godlocks ("aim? who aims? i let my 2 year old pull the trigger twice and 3 people die") is laughable. If you are engaging a heavy within his optimal range your going to have your face melted. Thats the trade off for a heavy otherwise they are simply stuck in a slow suit that makes them a giant target. If you are engaging a heavy at 40m or less you are the fool. If your engaging outside 40m you should have a good chance of beating them with most weapons. that lock thing is a thing of the past also btw and if the heavy doesnt have to aim you are not moving if your standing still up close to a heavy just lie down and lube yourself because we are going to give it to you rough.
Xmar Handfelid GERO TECH INC. 30	Posted - 2014.06.28 08:50:00 - [68] - Quote I've just tried out the boundless hmg from the loality store and put it on my proto ammar sentinel with a complex Heavy dm and got into domination game and I got 32 kills and 1 death. So yeah give me a reason why this gun has not been nerfed yet "If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 455	Posted - 2014.06.28 11:20:00 - [69] - Quote How any mature FPS player thinks an HMG should be anything other than OP is beyond me. Go play skyrim or something.
ugg reset Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 592	Posted - 2014.06.28 11:31:00 - [70] - Quote why can't I stop laughing at this post? Thr33 is the magic number. no hope.

The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels 50	Posted - 2014.06.28 11:35:00 - [71] - Quote The HMG is not over powered, its how you deal with them, i run away, best tactics and hasn't let me down yet, if you think you should be able to go toe to toe with a highly powerful chaingun spewing rounds and being held by a walking tank then it says it all, Millions of isks worth of ships in space yet theres nothing quite like a face to face
jerrmy12 kahoalii New Age Empire. 1575	Posted - 2014.06.28 12:26:00 - [72] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ok It obliterates every suit witnout effort or isk. Man go back to my little pony world... It obliterates every suit without effort or isk within 40m range. Like it suppose to be. You mean 90% of the map? Are you serious about this statement???? 90% of the maps are cqc...? Troll post Let me rephrase that. 90% of the map that has objectives or anything important is cqc Gal research facility is an example. Closed beta vet. If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 332	Posted - 2014.06.28 13:39:00 - [73] - Quote Xmar Handfelid wrote: I've just tried out the boundless hmg from the loality store and put it on my proto ammar sentinel with a complex Heavy dm and got into domination game and I got 32 kills and 1 death. So yeah give me a reason why this gun has not been nerfed yet What map? Who was on the opposing team? Who was on your team? Did you have a squad? Did the other team have squads? Did you have a logi? You're leaving out a lot of relevant information in your attempt to make a point. On most Dom maps the heavy/hmg will do good. Why? Because there is only one objective. Stay near it and you'll put up some good numbers.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2938	Posted - 2014.06.28 21:06:00 - [74] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hmmm a few things that don't add up. Anmol Singh wrote: Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react. HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults. *This is called TACTICS and TEAMWORK, these two are designed to be overpowered after all this is a team-based game.* this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS, Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances. Didn't I use to say the same thing about tanks? So how does that work? Futhermore there are considerably more overpowered weapons such as the assault rail rifle, burst combat rifle, light missile turrets. ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous. *You have less than 400 EHP?, please don't over exaggerate, if you do have less than 400 EHP, why are you gettimg spotted by a heavy?* Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. *Once again you are over exaggerating, the shotgun is currently more popular than the HMG and the gallante, caldari and amarr scout suits have more than 45% of the market share, go figure.* So I'll just casually leave this her, if you wamt to claim something as overpowered please back it up with evidence, for the case of the HMG there is none. 1.) It doesn't matter how much HP you have, HMG kills you in an instant. *It makes all the difference if you are over exaggerating, do they or do they not have 5x your EHP?* 2.) Since when did swarming a room not become a tactic? If 16 people swarmed a room all wearing STD assaults, they will get obliterated by a STD heavy with STD HMG backed up by a logi. ( I am a heavy and can literally destroy the enemy team myself getting 30-40 kills in a match with ease using a STD amarr heavy) *It depends which you think is more tactical, a group of people bungling into the same room at same time. Or 2 guys's who are actually working together to become greater than the sum of their parts.* 3.) Shotgun is nowhere near as popular as the HMG. You must be out of your mind dude. Ever match, the kill feed consists of 50 HMG kills. *Circumstantial Evidence, can you reference this via market data or other available data? No, as i previously memtioned the shotgun sells more units than HMG's* 4.) HMG is OP, it's more powerful now than it has been in freking chromosome. *Referenceable? Or is this just more hot air out your ? Small missiles-whatever, at least it takes some skill to use an ADS. The HMG, you press r1 and do a 360 and you kill everybody in the room. Never see one being used by a poor tanker then? assault rail rifle- lol- what??? wtf? The last time I saw this in the killfeed was a long time ago. Assault combat rifle?? It's just a worse SMG. See what I mean circumstantial, you don't see them, I can't see anything else in the killfeed. The difference, I can actual reference data that shows the ARR is overpowered, secondly BURST Combat Rifle, learn to read! 5.) stop throwing random numbers at me. 45%, where the ef did that come from? your ass? Barley anyone uses caldari assault-minmatar scout-amarr scout- gallante assault- minmatar assault. All other suits in the game are frequently used. Heavies are probably more spammed than scouts just because of HMG. Come on now.. who can't resist the instakill death ray coupled with the highest HP suit in the game. The gallante scout were 18%, the caldari was 12% and the Amarr was 5% ish, this was refrencable from Dustthang.dk, unfortunately it doesn't show any data, however there is a market evaluation here on the forums if you wish to go looking. Fin... Indeed, game set and match to me, unless you actually want to back up your claims with numbers and facts instead of just opinion. Also- TTK a HMG heavy is like 6-8-9-10 seconds with a rifle, TTK a assault while using the HMG is about .5 seconds. If you are the in optimal ramge of the HMG then yes it will, at 35m however you can take em out with Scrambler Pistol if you so desire.** I used the darn thing today and it's easier than the swarm launcher. My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
Thurak1 Psygod9 795	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:34:00 - [75] - Quote Xmar Handfelid wrote: I've just tried out the boundless hmg from the loality store and put it on my proto ammar sentinel with a complex Heavy dm and got into domination game and I got 32 kills and 1 death. So yeah give me a reason why this gun has not been nerfed yet I can do the same with a cloaker scout using militia grade shotgun on a dragonfly suit. Your logic is flawed because applying your logic my dragonfly bp suit with crap cpu and crap pg nearly no hps and militia grade shotgun are OP by these standards.
Slim Winning Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:35:00 - [76] - Quote The Heavy/ HMG has always been a crutch. However, smart tactics will usually do in a heavy. Step 1) KILL THE LOGI FIRST! No exceptions! Step 2) Run circles around the Heavy until its dead, dead, dead...
Thurak1 Psygod9 795	Posted - 2014.06.28 22:36:00 - [77] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: The HMG is not over powered, its how you deal with them, i run away, best tactics and hasn't let me down yet, if you think you should be able to go toe to toe with a highly powerful chaingun spewing rounds and being held by a walking tank then it says it all, We have a smart player here people! Lol i will be wary of you on the BF. I bet you would be smart and take me out from afar with a rail rifle. Those things seem to just blow through my shields in seconds.


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