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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:14:00 -
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Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:38:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first.
being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ???
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:42:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I've been militia stomping Gods among men since they first appeared. I first saw them and I was super excited, I was expecting a challenge. :(
A corp is a corp... I joined like yesterday. I bet you woulda talked sh*t if I was in, TUL, server true blood, The last of Dust, 0uter heaven, burRGZEZEZEZEZEZE, KEQ, subdreddit, Latino corps, brazil bullsh*t, ect. SO just stfu and talk about the topic.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:44:00 -
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Death Gently wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway.
I wasn't, but still, 200k suits die in a second to a sh*t fit.
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Anmol Singh
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:16:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote:I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.
Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject.
As the history of dust shows, DEV's don't know sheeet.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:23:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. thats weird because when a knifer sneaks up on me I get 2 shot(or stabbed I suppose) and I use complex plates. Think it might be a hit detection or lag thing?
That's only if they have proto knives on top of Minmatar scout - Also, it's not a guaranteed kill because once a heavy turns around, they are toast in a second becasue, LOL, OP HMG.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:29:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:
So far this has been the best dev yet.
But, he fails to notice and sometimes fix major issues.
PG of KinCats
Minmatar scout PG
Snipers are sheet
Flaylock is awful
HMG IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PYTHON IS WEAK!!!!
LARGE MISSILES ARE SHEET
FW is broken
RDV's dropping pythons from 20m high up (instapopping it)
Shield collision damage
Random terrain bugs
God awful maps still exist like domination on manus peek.
Equipment spam
Amarr scout sucks
LAV's instapopping when lightly bumping tank
Caldari Assault
Gallante Assault.
Ion pistol
ect.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:That moment when I'm out of ammo on my Duvolle, my backup is an Ion Pistol and I have to kill 4 heavies. 
More like the moment you realize that you wasted a whole clip of a duvolle and still didn't kill the heavy..
The moment you realize that a militia heavy just smoked you at 40 meters range with his HMG against your assault rifle.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:48:00 -
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test dude69 wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot. only people that complain about heavys are people that use incredibly bad tactics to fight them.
There are only 3 tactics... RE's, Nova Knives, Shotgun... OR you hit em from 60m away but lol, what map hap points right out in the open... They r8pe in CQC and medium range and it's stupid.
FYI- I am a Prototype Amarr heavy with proficiency 4 in HMG.. Still I want it nerfed. It seems like there are ways to counter you when your in a heavy suit but when you step out of it you know how fking OP you are.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:55:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Then they cry about scouts one shorting them with remotes till they get NERFED ! Makes total sense eh
Remotes make noise, the heavy can down a scout before remotes even deploy.. Any way, what about heavies vaporizing everything in under 2 seconds including other heavies.
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Anmol Singh
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:56:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:If a heavy starts landing HMG bullets on you and you didn't know he was there......death should rapidly ensue no?
If a guy with a rifle starts landing bullets on a HMG heavy and the HMG Heavy doesn't know you were there... guess what... the HMG heavy turns around in .01 seconds and drops you in .01 seconds.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:58:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb.
Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you???
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 19:06:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Who needs a Radar when the TTK to kill a heavy is over 10 seconds and it takes a heavy .01 turn around and .01 seconds to drop you??? Shotgun, remote explosives, or fighting from a distance will take down heavys easily. My gal assault with tac AR takes down heavys very easily.
Heavies in LAV's... They can move fast over ground and once at CQC they will own you/ anybody. Also, they don't need that much firepower to own in CQC so how about we nerf them and they can still own. take RPM from 2400 to 2000. Like good ol chromosome.
Come within 40m and I'll drop you personally.
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Anmol Singh
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 22:23:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Hmmm a few things that don't add up. Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
This is called TACTICS and TEAMWORK, these two are designed to be overpowered after all this is a team-based game.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
Didn't I use to say the same thing about tanks? So how does that work?
Futhermore there are considerably more overpowered weapons such as the assault rail rifle, burst combat rifle, light missile turrets.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
You have less than 400 EHP?, please don't over exaggerate, if you do have less than 400 EHP, why are you gettimg spotted by a heavy?
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times.
Once again you are over exaggerating, the shotgun is currently more popular than the HMG and the gallante, caldari and amarr scout suits have more than 45% of the market share, go figure. So I'll just casually leave this her, if you wamt to claim something as overpowered please back it up with evidence, for the case of the HMG there is none.
1.) It doesn't matter how much HP you have, HMG kills you in an instant.
2.) Since when did swarming a room not become a tactic? If 16 people swarmed a room all wearing STD assaults, they will get obliterated by a STD heavy with STD HMG backed up by a logi. ( I am a heavy and can literally destroy the enemy team myself getting 30-40 kills in a match with ease using a STD amarr heavy)
3.) Shotgun is nowhere near as popular as the HMG. You must be out of your mind dude. Ever match, the kill feed consists of 50 HMG kills.
4.) HMG is OP, it's more powerful now than it has been in freking chromosome.
Small missiles-whatever, at least it takes some skill to use an ADS. The HMG, you press r1 and do a 360 and you kill everybody in the room.
assault rail rifle- lol- what??? wtf? The last time I saw this in the killfeed was a long time ago.
Assault combat rifle?? It's just a worse SMG.
5.) stop throwing random numbers at me. 45%, where the ef did that come from? your ass? Barley anyone uses caldari assault-minmatar scout-amarr scout- gallante assault- minmatar assault. All other suits in the game are frequently used. Heavies are probably more spammed than scouts just because of HMG. Come on now.. who can't resist the instakill death ray coupled with the highest HP suit in the game.
Fin...
Also- TTK a HMG heavy is like 6-8-9-10 seconds with a rifle, TTK a assault while using the HMG is about .5 seconds.
I used the darn thing today and it's easier than the swarm launcher.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 23:20:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it.
You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good...
Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work.
Same as the shotgun.
how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.06.26 23:30:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Bethhy wrote:Heavy Machine gun just needs the Aim assist removed from it.
You already have a generalized circle with a wide bullet spread.... You're good...
Without the Aim assist the gun works good. Go grab your mouse off the computer plug it in and try.. That is how the gun should work.
Same as the shotgun. how about reducing the range to 20m optimum and 40 effective. How about just letting the gun work as intended. The bandaid's that have been installed imbalance the weapon and always have since it has been implemented. You can change a little number here or there but the problem with HMG and shotgun always has been same problem. Post all you like about this and that... it is what it is.
The way I would fix it is reducing the RPM to 2000 like it should be and not 2400. Anyone from Chromosome knows that those days were the glory days.
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