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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:14:00 -
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Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:22:00 -
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How are Gods that are amongst men, crying like infants? I figured you guys would have a tougher resolve. Could you answer this one question? What is the age range of your group? |
OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:35:00 -
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Hey OP?
Ssh. Men are talking. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
1114
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:36:00 -
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I've been militia stomping Gods among men since they first appeared. I first saw them and I was super excited, I was expecting a challenge. :(
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
1503
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:50:00 -
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Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Markul Gartel
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.06.26 02:08:00 -
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The heavy is so overpowerd |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
717
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:38:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first.
being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ???
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
717
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:42:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I've been militia stomping Gods among men since they first appeared. I first saw them and I was super excited, I was expecting a challenge. :(
A corp is a corp... I joined like yesterday. I bet you woulda talked sh*t if I was in, TUL, server true blood, The last of Dust, 0uter heaven, burRGZEZEZEZEZEZE, KEQ, subdreddit, Latino corps, brazil bullsh*t, ect. SO just stfu and talk about the topic.
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Death Gently
Sea of Sin
0
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:43:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times.
Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
717
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:44:00 -
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Death Gently wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Why are you wearing a 200k suit in a pup match? I'll be looking out for you anyway.
I wasn't, but still, 200k suits die in a second to a sh*t fit.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
647
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:12:00 -
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MLT heavy with republic HMG...who fits that description....
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
-Buzz Kill
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
1520
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:13:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies...
CCP Rattati wrote:I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.
Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5438
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:15:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
723
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:16:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote:I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.
Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject.
As the history of dust shows, DEV's don't know sheeet.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
1520
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. thats weird because when a knifer sneaks up on me I get 2 shot(or stabbed I suppose) and I use complex plates. Think it might be a hit detection or lag thing?
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
1520
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:22:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. being a heavy is easy mode... killing one is hard mode... ??? It isn't hard mode it's SMART mode also a word from our Dev on heavies... CCP Rattati wrote:I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.
Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject. As the history of dust shows, DEV's don't know sheeet. So far this has been the best dev yet.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
723
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:23:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Lemme guess you are a SG scout trying to kill a HMG heavy from the front... Just an FYI, I kill heavies all the time with my ScR Amarr scout all the time its merely a matter of keeping your distance and wearing them down. If you notice a yellow beam making their bottom HP bar fill up follow it to the logi and kill him first, and if he is sitting on rep hives shoot those first. I've had times when I've stabbed a sentinel SEVERAL TIMES in the back before they turned around and killed me with a quarter second HMG burst. thats weird because when a knifer sneaks up on me I get 2 shot(or stabbed I suppose) and I use complex plates. Think it might be a hit detection or lag thing?
That's only if they have proto knives on top of Minmatar scout - Also, it's not a guaranteed kill because once a heavy turns around, they are toast in a second becasue, LOL, OP HMG.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10442
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:28:00 -
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That moment when I'm out of ammo on my Duvolle, my backup is an Ion Pistol and I have to kill 4 heavies.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
724
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:29:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote: So far this has been the best dev yet.
But, he fails to notice and sometimes fix major issues.
PG of KinCats Minmatar scout PG Snipers are sheet Flaylock is awful HMG IS OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PYTHON IS WEAK!!!! LARGE MISSILES ARE SHEET FW is broken RDV's dropping pythons from 20m high up (instapopping it) Shield collision damage Random terrain bugs God awful maps still exist like domination on manus peek. Equipment spam Amarr scout sucks LAV's instapopping when lightly bumping tank Caldari Assault Gallante Assault. Ion pistol ect.
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Commando <3
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
724
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:That moment when I'm out of ammo on my Duvolle, my backup is an Ion Pistol and I have to kill 4 heavies.
More like the moment you realize that you wasted a whole clip of a duvolle and still didn't kill the heavy..
The moment you realize that a militia heavy just smoked you at 40 meters range with his HMG against your assault rifle.
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Commando <3
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
532
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:41:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: So far this has been the best dev yet.
But, he fails to notice and sometimes fix major issues. Cut Rattati some (a lot) of slack! In the short time he's been in charge of organising DUST updates he's managed to push through two very effective hotfixes in a short timeframe while still involving the community much more heavily than anyone before him. Rattati is our saviour and our Lord, to blaspheme against him to sin like none before you!
I love you Rattati... |
CRNWLLC
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
323
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:33:00 -
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Yeah, I'm on board with this. If I remember correctly, the heat buildup on HMGs decreases as tiers increase, which I don't think is the case for any other weapon with an overheat mechanic. That difference alone is ridiculous, and contributes to my aggro when I get killed by a militia heavy with an advanced+ HMG. On this note, here's some proof that fatsuits are OP: it is no problem to fit a lower level milita/standard frame with a combo of advanced and complex mods/weapons. This is not the case for any other class of suit without maxed skills, and even then it's not possible to go all complex on a proto suit for some frames.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I swear the lockup from taking HMG fire has barely improved--I still feel like I'm running underwater any time I try to escape HMG fire within 30 meters. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:42:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. I fight them at range, engage with multiples, sneak them, pop grenades first, but in the end if you are in their range alone you are in the meat grinder. I like the heavies being as powerful as they are. It sets the stage for the other pieces to work. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:45:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. I posted months ago this would be the case once scouts were gotten under control, unfortunately that HMG is the only thing keeping scouts from running Dust. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:47:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:How are Gods that are amongst men, crying like infants? I figured you guys would have a tougher resolve. Could you answer this one question? What is the age range of your group? They are all Cal Scouts. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
739
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:54:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
456
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:16:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
1347
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:18:00 -
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Crying is not how you get weapons nerfed.
Especially so given that it's just mob mentality.
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1456
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:35:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. Then they cry about scouts one shorting them with remotes till they get NERFED ! Makes total sense eh
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test dude69
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:43:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Please nerf this crutch. It's so freking annyoing getting vaporized in a second in a 800 ehp suit that cost 200k isk to a freking militia heavy with republic HMG. Like wtf? It kills so fast there is no time to react.
HMG + 1900 ehp heavy+ 1 logi= 16 assaults.
this game literally want to squeeze the head of and kill the guy that uses HMGS,
Who the fk thought it was a good idea to give the most OP gun in the game to the highest HP suit in the game and then give them resistances.
ALSO- fk the "fight em at range" theory, just CUZ an assault rifle can OUT DPS them, guess who has 5X the HP I do!!!! Also, it takes almost all of a clip to kill a freking tanked heavy. It''s ludicrous.
Im not saying nerf the Heavy suit (It's fine) but nerf the HMG... This gun is the most OP gun since the freking Tac AR crisis and probably more OP than Flaylock god times and Tac Ar times. heavys are balanced doing there job of holding a letter in CQC. the heavy has its weakness to as they are slow and can't see anyone on the radar which leads to scouts being able to attack a heavy and kill them easy. playing the game over time will teach you how to attack any suit in the game and win but running face first at a heavy in any suit is pretty dumb. Agreed, I used to play with this idiot named Roeg X who run face first at heavys in a scout suit with an acr, lolz, dies over and over. Screams, rages, quits. Next day same thing, im like dude you cant do that you got 4 or 500 ehp... Hes like in a typical shooter, but Dust isnt typical. It rewards tactics, not just twitch, not just first shot. only people that complain about heavys are people that use incredibly bad tactics to fight them.
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