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LIFE RIPPER Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 232	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:45:00 - [1] - Quote They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10813	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:48:00 - [2] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Not better than Commando's "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1683	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:51:00 - [3] - Quote If you use a shottycloak combo your a f@g. But I am sick of this bullshit nerf hammer. Nerf This! This is OP! PSN Sil4nt Chaozz Autistic Mechanic & Engineer, Matari in Dust & out Scrambler Pistol and Scout Devotee
LIFE RIPPER Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 233	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:51:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Not better than Commando's Yes commandos seem to have a good place. Still a scout is gonna instance GiB a command in most situations except sniping or long range gunning.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 1345	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:51:00 - [5] - Quote Here's an interesting thought. Give all scout suits a built in basic cloak, and then remove the extra pg/CPU used to fit that basic cloak, along with the extra equipment slot. Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 34	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:52:00 - [6] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Hello, a scout is supposed to have these advantages over other suit types. They're supposed to be the get in 'n get out type, and if needed improvise on the go. Now I wanna play a few Splinter Cell games.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1461	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:53:00 - [7] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: If you use a shottycloak combo your a f@g. But I am sick of this bullshit nerf hammer. Nerf This! This is OP! Please tell that to your bretheren as you could fill an ocean with their heavy QQ lately Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
LIFE RIPPER Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 233	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:53:00 - [8] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: If you use a shottycloak combo your a f@g. But I am sick of this bullshit nerf hammer. Nerf This! This is OP! Now the trend is to run in two or threes. When your buddy decloaks i n front of the guy your other two flank behind and pop. None of which shows up on the poor saps radar. It was fun for awhile now it just seems cheap.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10816	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:56:00 - [9] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: True Adamance wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Not better than Commando's Yes commandos seem to have a good place. Still a scout is gonna instance GiB a command in most situations except sniping or long range gunning. Nope. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1683	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:57:00 - [10] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: If you use a shottycloak combo your a f@g. But I am sick of this bullshit nerf hammer. Nerf This! This is OP! Please tell that to your bretheren as you could fill an ocean with their heavy QQ lately Could fill several oceans. The QQ is almost as strong as your faith. At least your faith is semi-kinda-sorta reasonable. QQ never is reasonable. NEVER I say! PSN Sil4nt Chaozz Autistic Mechanic & Engineer, Matari in Dust & out Scrambler Pistol and Scout Devotee

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1685	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:00:00 - [11] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Here's an interesting thought. Give all scout suits a built in basic cloak, and then remove the extra pg/CPU used to fit that basic cloak, along with the extra equipment slot. That is perfect. I usually use only one anyway cause I'm so used to using one. But proto suits should have two. Just proto. Very simple, if you fit a cloak, take away the ability to fit a shotgun. BOOM! No more f@gs and sh!ttons of crying QQ mothereffers! PSN Sil4nt Chaozz Autistic Mechanic & Engineer, Matari in Dust & out SCP & Scout Devotee /Z)/V//V /V//V_//-\
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5354	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:03:00 - [12] - Quote Get rid of the Cloak, the extra equip, and give me back my old dampening bonus. It's bogus that I have to run 2x-3x Damp Min Scout just to survive in PC. I'd like to run some speed or hack, but I'm forced to run nothing but DAMP DAMP DAMP That Crazy Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
SLENDER M4N Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:04:00 - [13] - Quote I dont think my amarr scout should hear any of this. He is already having a tough time being loved To jump higher in any game,just press the button harder.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 179	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:05:00 - [14] - Quote Cloaks are good to covering open ground. Shotguns are good at very short distances. The synergy between the two isnt that great considering radar is only 10m for most so you wouldn't see another medium suit on your six until it was too late either. Cloaks are good for avoiding other scouts, and allowing a delayed annoucned alpha shot. They aren't great for a sustained fight but that works for most scouts. 2 equipment slots allows scouts to be scouts. Uplinks, nanohives, REs are all tools of the trade. A lot of scouting isn't just shooting plebs in the back ya know. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 179	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:08:00 - [15] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: I dont think my amarr scout should hear any of this. He is already having a tough time being loved They are too busy off the field showing off their advanced stamina. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15529	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:12:00 - [16] - Quote /popcorns Nerf assaults they're too mediocre at everything they do. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 47	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:14:00 - [17] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Get a life, I play scout, heavy, logi each has its +/- and now with more nerfing to scout equipment they are hindered again.
LIFE RIPPER Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 233	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:17:00 - [18] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Get a life, I play scout, heavy, logi each has its +/- and now with more nerfing to scout equipment they are hindered again. You just suck as a scout then. Cause mine is easy mode
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 3873	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:25:00 - [19] - Quote My solution: return vk.0 and vk.1 I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
Taylor Badasz Proficiency V. 120	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:27:00 - [20] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: My solution: return vk.0 and vk.1 What are these? Lazer focused...

Midas Fool Watchdoge Explosives 456	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:31:00 - [21] - Quote Taylor Badasz wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: My solution: return vk.0 and vk.1 What are these? If you have to ask, you can't afford it. If they remove my (totally 100% balanced) exploit, they owe me cash money and a respec!!!
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:41:00 - [22] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. troll. Choo Choo
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2014.06.19 07:03:00 - [23] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. my minmitar logi kills lots of scouts... and I can have up to 4 slots making me a better logi... and more ehp....and ive never seen a skilled heavy with logi in tow get killed by a scout....
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 300	Posted - 2014.06.19 07:12:00 - [24] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: dreth longbow wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Get a life, I play scout, heavy, logi each has its +/- and now with more nerfing to scout equipment they are hindered again. You just suck as a scout then. Cause mine is easy mode Please nerf my scout scout scout. Lonewolf till I die
Jotun Izalaru Goonfeet 138	Posted - 2014.06.19 07:26:00 - [25] - Quote The only nerf scouts need is to CPU turned down and for cloaks to not be gamebreaking good anymore. The shotgun should be stupid deadly, it has a range of like 6 feet. Don't get caught in CQC and if you do learn to keep your back to the wall or to a friend.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 181	Posted - 2014.06.19 08:46:00 - [26] - Quote Actually I'd like to see a proximity mine that is an EMP blast that defrocks er decloaks scouts. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Scar Scrilla LOOKING 4 CORP 228	Posted - 2014.06.19 10:18:00 - [27] - Quote Nerf everything that might kill you. Nerf everything until servers shut down. Great attitude. Nerf heavies, scouts, shottys, logis, HMG, Rail Rifles and Combat rifles, for god's sake. And finally nerf the turret installations too. Nerf the abitlity to adapt or die... CCP plz nerf forum QQ "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" "Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 932	Posted - 2014.06.19 10:22:00 - [28] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: You just suck as a scout then. Cause mine is easy mode You must suck at everything then, because quite honestly, this is the first time in a long time this many roles have been viable. The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2014.06.19 10:44:00 - [29] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. troll. Choo Choo
Khulmach Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.06.19 11:21:00 - [30] - Quote I'm going to guess that you see gallente and caldari.How about stop being a wimp,the problem is not using enhancers,advance works and throw in a complex to be sure.2 is a to all you need to see them.Of course I only use one advance,if they use dampers add another one instead of you regular fitting.You bad gamer,ps all I see is caldari with combat rifle. Now you see me,now you die(Nova knife slash)

Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 169	Posted - 2014.06.19 11:49:00 - [31] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Here's an interesting thought. Give all scout suits a built in basic cloak, and then remove the extra pg/CPU used to fit that basic cloak, along with the extra equipment slot. That's the crux of the problem: they can choose whether to be a scout or an assault/logi. I would prefer that they keep their extra equipment slot and lose some of there H/L slots so they can't choose to brick tank effectively. Commandos get reduced H/L slot count AND no grenade slot AND slower speed for two light weapons and extra HP. Commandos are built for a purpose, so you get less flexibility in your build and that's a good thing. Scouts should be the same: fit for purpose instead of capable of everything. The big advantage that medium suits should have is configuration versatility which would make the PG/CPU reduction on weapons make that much more sense.
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9585	Posted - 2014.06.19 11:51:00 - [32] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: Still a scout is gonna instance GiB a command in most situations except sniping or long range gunning. What the hell kind of bootleg Commando are you running? I'm in a Matari Commando and even I don't get OHK'd by them. -Insert Clever Statement Here- "The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits" -HAND
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9585	Posted - 2014.06.19 12:00:00 - [33] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: That's the crux of the problem: they can choose whether to be a scout or an assault/logi. I would prefer that they keep their extra equipment slot and lose some of there H/L slots so they can't choose to brick tank effectively. The problem with removing slots is that you remove their e-WAR capabilities, which is supposed to be the strong suit of the Scouts & Light Frames. Not to mention, that it would have a negative effect on the already -comparatively- gimped Matari Scout. The real problem, is the eHP ceiling that the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari Scouts can reach. Making HP modules yield % values or reducing their effect while being used on Scouts/Light Frames will fix that problem. -Insert Clever Statement Here- "The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits" -HAND
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2014.06.19 17:54:00 - [34] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Get rid of the Cloak, the extra equip, and give me back my old dampening bonus. It's bogus that I have to run 2x-3x Damp Min Scout just to survive in PC. I'd like to run some speed or hack, but I'm forced to run nothing but DAMP DAMP DAMP ^ Can't like enough do this and I'll be happy
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:01:00 - [35] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Get a life, I play scout, heavy, logi each has its +/- and now with more nerfing to scout equipment they are hindered again. If you can't scout with one equipment you are a sad scout.. just saying
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2065	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:19:00 - [36] - Quote 1) Stick to a group or defensible position 2) Don't part far from the herd 3) Get a CalScout or GaLLogi for your squad 4) Get a Heavy in your squad and stick close to him 5) Watch your back and know flanking routes The stealthiest Scouts tend to be the squishiest. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 532	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:25:00 - [37] - Quote the shotgun isn't even good, the only reason people think it is is because it can one shot starter fits....the shotgun is probably the most unreliable weapon in the game If anything, it needs a buff to hit detection People who whine about it are generally the same ones who crouch in a corner with a frontline suit. If you know how to strafe or fit a suit, the shotgun poses no problems. I spent about 2 hours today playing militia minmitar heavy with a republic HMG, and its literally so easy idk what to do with myself. I never got shotgunned ONCE. learn to strafe, and the shotgun will no longer bother you. Then you can whine about HMG's and rifles What all Minjas are thinking as they play... Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 532	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:26:00 - [38] - Quote I would recommend playing against decent players in a scout suit with a shotgun before you complain. What all Minjas are thinking as they play... Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8789	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:29:00 - [39] - Quote Here we go again. The endlessly stupid nerf/buff cycle starts all over again. When will it ever stop? Don't say it's when CCP gets their act together because I know for a fact that's not true. People will always demand nerfs and buffs even if a game is perfectly balanced. I have seen it in every forum of every game out there. This cycle is never going to end. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3279	Posted - 2014.06.19 18:37:00 - [40] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Yeah thats why i see much more heavys then i see scouts. usually i see like 2-3 scouts max on a ambush match but on the other hand there are allways like 8 heavys present at any given time. And those benefits from a scout comes with the cost of the lowest amount of HP in the whole game. The only way to make it work is to flank cause every direct engagement is extremely risky.

Powerh8er Ganking Jugend 448	Posted - 2014.06.19 19:14:00 - [41] - Quote The cal scan radius and gal dampening nerf was a step in the wrong direction. They need to be more scouts and less assault grunts, i say. Meaning gathering intelligence, hacking speed, nova knife, perhaps even some and remotes/proxies bonus. Specialist recon stuff.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3074	Posted - 2014.06.19 19:58:00 - [42] - Quote I think people should hold off on the whole Scout nerf until after the Assault rework is complete. That being said I myself am a bit apprehensive because CCP and the community have trouble even definning the role. The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
David Mustane Commando Perkone Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.06.19 23:32:00 - [43] - Quote Scout are not assault suits, they are not logis, they are not heavies. They are a light suit, and as a light suit they shouldn't be doing half of what the game allows. A scout suit shouldn't allow so much equipment and high/low slots. They shouldn't be allowed to act as any other role or surpass any other heavier suit. (i.e med, logi, ect.) Scouts are pussies that refuse to fight head on, then again everyone that plays the game abuses an exploit of some kind. Nerf the **** out of scouts. Make them as usless as the AR and Mass Drivers.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 188	Posted - 2014.06.19 23:51:00 - [44] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Scout are not assault suits, they are not logis, they are not heavies. They are a light suit, and as a light suit they shouldn't be doing half of what the game allows. A scout suit shouldn't allow so much equipment and high/low slots. They shouldn't be allowed to act as any other role or surpass any other heavier suit. (i.e med, logi, ect.) Scouts are pussies that refuse to fight head on, then again everyone that plays the game abuses an exploit of some kind. Nerf the **** out of scouts. Make them as usless as the AR and Mass Drivers. Yet you seem to be complaining about the scouts that do fight head on. There is no reason that an equal cost suit should under perform another one if the player plays to its strengths and remembers its weaknesses. Scouts do not surpass Logi's for equipment quantity or quality. Logi's have at least 50% more equipment and have buffs to one type. Scouts do not get a bonus to equipment performance. So that is yet another factually inaccurate statement. What should a scout do in your world? Not drop uplinks? Not counter flanking? Not hack? Not provide intel? Sounds like all you want is a head to head fight were raw eHP and DPS rules and no tactics are required. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
NATAS RED Rough Riders.. Primus Federation 3	Posted - 2014.06.19 23:55:00 - [45] - Quote I'm a scout...! I don't run FTOM... nor shotty/cloak I whoop poor players ASes on a regular basis... using very basic tactics.... I laugh when I read these posts because the problem is not the suit. It's the player... all I can say is quit crying and get guud... P.s. watch you backs cause you never know where me and my pack will be lurking... E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly* They called him the "Ghost of Solomon"
Egonz4 362	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:03:00 - [46] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Heck no!.....heavies are the most op suit.......they have a lot of HP...the nmg is best...plus scouts die a lot...and die easily....scouts kill a lo but they die a lot.....heavies kill a lot but don't die alot self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
Egonz4 362	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:07:00 - [47] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: dreth longbow wrote: LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. Get a life, I play scout, heavy, logi each has its +/- and now with more nerfing to scout equipment they are hindered again. You just suck as a scout then. Cause mine is easy mode U obviously suck if you keep getting killed by the same type of fit.....fit some precision enhancers so u can see them coming or shut up........that's what makes dust dust self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
Michael Arck 4742	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:11:00 - [48] - Quote lol OMG you can't make this up!! They are scouts! They are little suits, so of course they are going to be fast, have high stamina, and used to flank positions. That's what a scout does. And the truth of the matter is, with or without a cloak, a scout will still drop you from behind. Anybody talking about cloaks being the problem of scouts sneaking up on them are usually really really poor at field awareness. I bet a Sentinel could sneak up on you with his fat self and drop you with a shotgun. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:14:00 - [49] - Quote LIFE RIPPER wrote: They have huge built in speed advantages, stealth built in, 2 equipment slots allows them to compete in the logi realm. Use a shotgun with a cloak and you can sneak up on almost anyone. The scout is the best suit in the game way better than assaults or heavies. I think scouts suits and the hmg both need a little bit of attention, but I dont feel that scouts are better than heavys, I can kill 4 or 5 scouts with a single clip of my mh82.
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:26:00 - [50] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: lol OMG you can't make this up!! They are scouts! They are little suits, so of course they are going to be fast, have high stamina, and used to flank positions. That's what a scout does. And the truth of the matter is, with or without a cloak, a scout will still drop you from behind. Anybody talking about cloaks being the problem of scouts sneaking up on them are usually really really poor at field awareness. I bet a Sentinel could sneak up on you with his fat self and drop you with a shotgun. I would have to disagree. It is not that the cloak lets the scout sneak up behind me directly, its that a cloak allows a scout to move across the field uncontested where he otherwise may or may not have been seen by a fellow team mate with a rr, cr, scr, or laser. This allows the scout to get into the position behind you that he may not have otherwise been able to do. More over it allows the scout with a very powerful cqc weapon to move across vast open distances with no need for long range cover fire from supporting squad or teamates. I know, I have a Gal Proto scout, and a Cal scout, with proto cloaks. This allows the scout to not only do his job but get in positions to slay. I personally feel an overall change to the radar system would alleviate much of this as not being able to see which direction someone is facing would make this practice of cloak shotgun in the back much more difficult. That being said I promise im not poor at field awareness, I kill many more of them than they do me.

Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1400	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:33:00 - [51] - Quote NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote: Michael Arck wrote: lol OMG you can't make this up!! They are scouts! They are little suits, so of course they are going to be fast, have high stamina, and used to flank positions. That's what a scout does. And the truth of the matter is, with or without a cloak, a scout will still drop you from behind. Anybody talking about cloaks being the problem of scouts sneaking up on them are usually really really poor at field awareness. I bet a Sentinel could sneak up on you with his fat self and drop you with a shotgun. I would have to disagree. It is not that the cloak lets the scout sneak up behind me directly, its that a cloak allows a scout to move across the field uncontested where he otherwise may or may not have been seen by a fellow team mate with a rr, cr, scr, or laser. This allows the scout to get into the position behind you that he may not have otherwise been able to do. More over it allows the scout with a very powerful cqc weapon to move across vast open distances with no need for long range cover fire from supporting squad or teamates. I know, I have a Gal Proto scout, and a Cal scout, with proto cloaks. This allows the scout to not only do his job but get in positions to slay. I personally feel an overall change to the radar system would alleviate much of this as not being able to see which direction someone is facing would make this practice of cloak shotgun in the back much more difficult. That being said I promise im not poor at field awareness, I kill many more of them than they do me. Infiltrating enemy lines? Avoiding detection? Assassination from up close? That's pretty much the scout's job description imho. What's the problem? You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 3881	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:50:00 - [52] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: Taylor Badasz wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: My solution: return vk.0 and vk.1 What are these? If you have to ask, you can't afford it. LOL I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason
Michael Arck 4743	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:52:00 - [53] - Quote NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote: Michael Arck wrote: lol OMG you can't make this up!! They are scouts! They are little suits, so of course they are going to be fast, have high stamina, and used to flank positions. That's what a scout does. And the truth of the matter is, with or without a cloak, a scout will still drop you from behind. Anybody talking about cloaks being the problem of scouts sneaking up on them are usually really really poor at field awareness. I bet a Sentinel could sneak up on you with his fat self and drop you with a shotgun. I would have to disagree. It is not that the cloak lets the scout sneak up behind me directly, its that a cloak allows a scout to move across the field uncontested where he otherwise may or may not have been seen by a fellow team mate with a rr, cr, scr, or laser. This allows the scout to get into the position behind you that he may not have otherwise been able to do. More over it allows the scout with a very powerful cqc weapon to move across vast open distances with no need for long range cover fire from supporting squad or teamates. I know, I have a Gal Proto scout, and a Cal scout, with proto cloaks. This allows the scout to not only do his job but get in positions to slay. I personally feel an overall change to the radar system would alleviate much of this as not being able to see which direction someone is facing would make this practice of cloak shotgun in the back much more difficult. That being said I promise im not poor at field awareness, I kill many more of them than they do me. Yea, its a cloak. I don't know about the guys you play with, but the guys I squad up with got eyes like cat compared to most. We are calling out scouts when we see them and letting you know if they are cloaked or not. And it doesn't matter if other people see them or not, long as my squad or myself are aware of our field, we are okay. I have a proto Cal scout myself. And I have stood in front of clueless people who are wondering why their reticule just went red. And they do nothing but just look at my cloaked scout as if its some anomaly. In short, I'm tired of this game being hacked because people absolutely refuse to better themselves in this game. We have turned this game into a babysitter's club. I don't know how many times I have adjusted, with little to no complaining, to a game that was adjusted due to people not adjusting and just purely complaining. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Yeeeuuuupppp 353	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:52:00 - [54] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Here's an interesting thought. Give all scout suits a built in basic cloak, and then remove the extra pg/CPU used to fit that basic cloak, along with the extra equipment slot. That's like maKing the game only have one weapon. You end up getting trapped using it... I personally think cloaks shouldn't have been added to the game, it removed the challenge from being a scout. Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.


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