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King0fHearts wrote:

Why do I always feel that game developers always favor heavys over all other dropsuits in this game? In this Hotfix they " increased speed penalties" increased? Why? So we can all move slower like a heavy? The way I see it would I like to move like a heavy? Or... Would I like to be a heavy and have more armor/shield and gun fire?

Gallente scouts:
"The Galdari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available."

yea, that's the point of being a Gallente scouts being able to see whats going on but with out being seen.
Also to get "Gallente Scout" you have to be level 5 Gallente light so mabe you should get more.
Now that the developers took that away there is less of a reason to be one. On the other hand more of a reason to be a heavy.

Caldari Scout:
"The Caldari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available."

Again why invest into a scout or anything else and get less out of it? This is not a good thing!
How is this good for anyone other then heavy's?

Assault Rifles:
We tweaked the Assault Rifles a little bit, reducing the Combat Rifle damage a little bit

Why? Assault rifles/Combat rifles they are a dying weapon in Dust. You want less people to use them?
Also what did you to the Assault Rifles? You didn't tell us just that you "tweaked the assault rifles"

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ERMAGERD IM DEAD Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2014.06.04 13:48:00 - [31] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hotfix Alpha is now live on Tranquility, and brings with it a number of changes after thorough discussions with the DUST 514 community! These include tweaks to Infantry-versus-Vehicles Balance, Cloaking, Scouts, Armor Modules and much more. For full details on this and future Hotfixes, have a look here! Ok the last item in the list is: Quote: ConfirmedDecloak Animation Length: Old delay0.5sProposed delay 0.3s WTF!!! If there is anything that needs to be decreased, it's the time it takes for me to do ANYTHING after I let go of the button for using my repair tool!!!! Seriously it's like a full second before I can swap to a weapon, SPRINT!!!, relock repair tool on same target (or any other target), throw grenade, etc. That **** needs to be decreased, not the decloak times!!!! That's for sure! Fix this please.
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Lokun Listamenn 121	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:30:00 - [32] - Quote The document is a little unclear. Did you in fact halve the energy reserves for cloaking devices? "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5597	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:35:00 - [33] - Quote So it took you guys until May 24th to realize the ion and bolt pistol were broken even though I mentioned it numerous times in forum posts, tweeted at you, and put them in my videos when I reviewed the guns over a month ago? lol. Regardless I'm glad it got fixed. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Lokun Listamenn 121	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:43:00 - [34] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Presumably both since the decloak animation kicks in whichever button you press. Yeah, but what I'm really asking is will it affect the delay before actually being able to fire? Good question. If you can fire as soon as the animation finishes, shortening the animation could actually mean that firing-from-cloak is even more effective . Would be good to have clarification on this. It would mean you're visible sooner. So no change in effectiveness except where the attacker is decloaking in front of the victim. Sounds good to me. "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 242	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:44:00 - [35] - Quote In B4 people complain about AR being king again. The Duvolle is back!!!!! =)
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp Covert Intervention 541	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:46:00 - [36] - Quote Yes, my bolt pistol is fixed! -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 899	Posted - 2014.06.04 14:54:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: yay. EDIT: Stunlock fixed = YAY! Seriously? Who cares about everything else this is the best news ever! Overlord of Broman
IgniteableAura The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 1195	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:01:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: * Caldari Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+3%GÇ¥ * Gallente Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+1%GÇ¥ Are both of these stated correctly? Gal scouts get both radius and scan precision of 1%? Not 1% range and 3% profile? Cal scouts get 3% radius and precision to 3%. Not 3% range and 5% profile? Youtube
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 298	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:10:00 - [39] - Quote Was the cpu/pg on any of these module changed? A few of my suits are coming up in the red. Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker. You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 528	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:34:00 - [40] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: Was the cpu/pg on any of these module changed? A few of my suits are coming up in the red. Read the spreadsheet. Basic plates had a PG increase, CPU decrease. Enhanced Plates only had a CPU decrease. Militia Plates and BPO's were nerfed harder than the Flaylock, 20% CPU increase, 300% PG increase.

I-Shayz-I I-----I 3572	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:45:00 - [41] - Quote So apparently the Caldari anti-armor starter fit is invalid now. Someone just told me this. Not like I care, but some people probably do. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 565	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:59:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hotfix Alpha is now live on Tranquility, and brings with it a number of changes after thorough discussions with the DUST 514 community! These include tweaks to Infantry-versus-Vehicles Balance, Cloaking, Scouts, Armor Modules and much more. For full details on this and future Hotfixes, have a look here! Some known issues with this hotfix are: Descriptions for the following items are not updated accordingly: * Militia Armor Plates * Militia Armor Plates (BPO) * Basic Armor Plates 2% penalty to movement speed, which should be GÇ£3%GÇ¥ * Enhanced Armor Plates 3% penalty to movement speed, which should be GÇ£4%GÇ¥ * Caldari Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+3%GÇ¥ * Gallente Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+1%GÇ¥ what about the small blasters? Legion on PS4 "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart"
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.06.04 16:02:00 - [43] - Quote Did the ion pistol range get fixed because I still dont do damage past 38 m
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 304	Posted - 2014.06.04 16:30:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: * Caldari Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+3%GÇ¥ * Gallente Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+1%GÇ¥ Wa-wa-wa-wait... Please tell me if I understand you correctly: The Caldari Scout suit skill, when trained to level 5, grants a 15% bonus to scan precision and radius, while the Gallente Scout suit skill, when trained to level 5, grants a 5% bonus to scan signature and radius?!?!?! EDIT: My bad, your post disagrees with your spreadsheet. So I guess there's still hope. Then again, CCP doesn't seem to have heard of proofreading... All I can say is that you all phucked up royally. In case you didn't hear, which apparently you didn't, the problem with scouts was due to CLOAK ABUSE, which itself is due to your stupid phucking design. If you had fixed the decloak-to-pewpew issue (ie, increased it noticeably, you know, so people would play and say, "Holy sh!t, decloaking is fixed!") and removed the precision dampening bonus they granted, everything would have been fine. Based on your stupid spreadsheet, it would appear the decloak animation is proposed to be decreased, from .5 seconds to .3. Or, to bring the Cal vs. Gal scout suits in line, you could have matched the performance of PEs and PDs. But no: CCP Logibro wrote: This isn't the full change we wanted, but we couldn't get the increased delay working and we still had the rest of the patch ready to go. No point in holding back everything else when we can put it out there and get some good changes in while we wait. How noble of you. The Destiny beta cannot come soon enough. EDIT NUMERO DOS: I'd also like to point out how decreasing the fitting requirements of (most) plates, while significantly increasing the performance of armor reppers, pretty much precludes the use of reactive plates. Derp. I'd also like to point out that penalizing scouts for using armor plates would have been better accomplished by giving plates a penalty to profile signature. This way, scouts that wanted to run frontline would be more noticeable to others on the frontline, while mediums and heavies would remain unaffected, as signature profile means d!ck to them anyway. Way to think outside the box. I really want to say how absolutely phucking ret@rded I think you all are, but I'd hate to break the forum rules. So, I won't say that. I'll just let you know that I'd like to.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2109	Posted - 2014.06.04 16:39:00 - [45] - Quote What's stun lock? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 676	Posted - 2014.06.04 17:00:00 - [46] - Quote This Hotfix as a whole really represents a pretty profound shift in the way developer/gamer interaction has worked up until this point. I'd seriously like to commend you guys for making these changes and responding to the community in this way. As a closed beta vet it really feels like a 180 from the old days of this game. Here's to the inevitable Hotfix Beta! (While we're addressing low hanging fruit, any chance of changing the means of restocking from the way it is now (everything gets restocked regardless of how many of each individual item you have) to the way it was in closed beta (restocking to X number would only restock the specific items that didn't meet that threshold, much more ISK efficient and far less waste) just throwing it out there.)
ZB DeLong Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.06.04 17:33:00 - [47] - Quote Gal bonus is going to be 1% what the hell? AND cal scout's will be 3%, this makes no sense. I'm proto gal scout now it's going to be like the amarr/minmatar scout... Pure junk. Not cool CCP. Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
Driftward Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 977	Posted - 2014.06.04 17:35:00 - [48] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: All I can say is that you all phucked up royally. In case you didn't hear, which apparently you didn't, the problem with scouts was due to CLOAK ABUSE, which itself is due to your stupid phucking design. If you had fixed the decloak-to-pewpew issue (ie, increased it noticeably, you know, so people would play and say, "Holy sh!t, decloaking is fixed!") and removed the precision dampening bonus they granted, everything would have been fine. *Based on your stupid spreadsheet, it would appear the decloak animation is proposed to be decreased, from .5 seconds to .3.* Or, to bring the Cal vs. Gal scout suits in line, you could have matched the performance of PEs and PDs. But no: . How about you slow down and think before sperging out.... Decreasing the animation time is not the same as decreasing the delay to shoot. The animation should now finish faster than before making you visible from cloak faster than before. The time before being able to shoot remains the same. ie visible before being shot. This isn't a complete fix (like logibro said) but it does at least help the current situation. The next fix should include some small increase in the delay to shoot from cloak. (perhaps 0.5 sec increase, any more and will be too noticeable) TL;DR Chill out and learn to read/understand.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2669	Posted - 2014.06.04 18:32:00 - [49] - Quote Gallente Scout has a dampning bonus, not precision... Also, 1% seriously? Wow. Just... wow. I thought it was going to be reduced to 3% to be in line with the Caldari Scout, but I guess that wasn't enough.
Scheneighnay McBob The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5159	Posted - 2014.06.04 19:05:00 - [50] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: now.....wheres my breach ar. It has already ventured out on its own to obliterate everything red. péñpâ¦pé+pâìpââpâêpü«tÄïµºÿpüïpéÅpüäpüä pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè

vlad stoich Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 87	Posted - 2014.06.04 19:16:00 - [51] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: CCP Frame wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Whoever watched my video and went in to change the bolt pistol/ion pistol ranges... I watched it, then showed it to CCP Rattati, then he asked right people to fix the issue. So it was a chain reaction! And thanks once again for posting that video, we love those. Yes, because it's much easier to watch a video about what's wrong than try and trudge through the mess that is the bug reports/technical issues subforum :/ So...I guess I better make another video about the hidden nanocircuitry bonus then X) (for those that don't know, it's a 5% cpu reduction to nanohives and injectors per level, that is only stated in-game in the skillbook description, in the marketplace section where you can buy skillbooks...but not in the skill node description) It doesn't seem like a huge issue, but since logistics now get a 5% per level reduction in equipment cpu/pg, this extra "bonus" from nanocircuitry makes nanohives much easier to fit, while other upper tier equipment are much harder to fit. Either it gets removed, or new bonuses are introduced for the other equipment skills. As it is right now, nanohives that currently cost 88 cpu only take up about 46ish It appears shayz should be hired by CCP or atleast paid a commission or finders fee. Something for doing their job for them.
King0fHearts D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 29	Posted - 2014.06.04 19:19:00 - [52] - Quote Why do I always feel that game developers always favor heavys over all other dropsuits in this game? In this Hotfix they " increased speed penalties" increased? Why? So we can all move slower like a heavy? The way I see it would I like to move like a heavy? Or... Would I like to be a heavy and have more armor/shield and gun fire? Gallente scouts: "The Galdari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." yea, that's the point of being a Gallente scouts being able to get into places with out being seen. Now that the developers took that away there is less of a reason to be one. On the other hand more of a reason to be a heavy. Caldari Scout: "The Caldari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." Again why invest into a scout or anything else and get less out of it? This is not a good thing! How is this good for anyone other then heavy's? Assault Rifles: We tweaked the Assault Rifles a little bit, reducing the Combat Rifle damage a little bit Why? Assault rifles/Combat rifles are a dying weapon as is in Dust. You want less people to use them? Also what did you to the Assault Rifles? You didn't tell us just that you "tweaked the assault rifles"
Toby Flenderson research lab 542	Posted - 2014.06.04 19:23:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hotfix Alpha is now live on Tranquility, and brings with it a number of changes after thorough discussions with the DUST 514 community! These include tweaks to Infantry-versus-Vehicles Balance, Cloaking, Scouts, Armor Modules and much more. For full details on this and future Hotfixes, have a look here! Some known issues with this hotfix are: Descriptions for the following items are not updated accordingly: * Militia Armor Plates * Militia Armor Plates (BPO) * Basic Armor Plates 2% penalty to movement speed, which should be GÇ£3%GÇ¥ * Enhanced Armor Plates 3% penalty to movement speed, which should be GÇ£4%GÇ¥ * Caldari Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+3%GÇ¥ * Gallente Scout Dropsuits +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius and scan precision per level, which should be GÇ£+1%GÇ¥ Is this gallente bonus right? Does proto gallente now award only 5% scan radius and 5% precision? I'm assuming the precision is supposed to be profile but is it really then only a 5% profile reduction at proto?
Forlorn Destrier 2515	Posted - 2014.06.04 22:02:00 - [54] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hotfix Alpha is now live on Tranquility, and brings with it a number of changes after thorough discussions with the DUST 514 community! These include tweaks to Infantry-versus-Vehicles Balance, Cloaking, Scouts, Armor Modules and much more. For full details on this and future Hotfixes, have a look here! Ok the last item in the list is: Quote: ConfirmedDecloak Animation Length: Old delay0.5sProposed delay 0.3s WTF!!! Are you guys smoking crack!!! Why are you DECREASING the delay? It needs to be increased!!! Right now, with the latency figured in, a person is DEAD before they ever see the animation complete as it is at 0.5 seconds... You need to increase that ** to 1.0 seconds or more! If there is anything that needs to be decreased, it's the time it takes for me to do ANYTHING after I let go of the button for using my repair tool!!!! Seriously it's like a full second before I can swap to a weapon, SPRINT!!!, relock repair tool on same target (or any other target), throw grenade, etc. That ** needs to be decreased, not the decloak times!!!! Wrong. The purpose of this is to make people visible when they are shooting you. Cloaked scouts have been firing twice before they even become visible. If they increase it they would have even more time to shoot while cloaked and no one would see them. They could change to the weapon, fire a shotgut 4 times, and then cloak again. You'd never see them.
Gh0zT M0D3 PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 3	Posted - 2014.06.04 22:04:00 - [55] - Quote awww:c Small Blaster Turrets Still being the same. HARD TO AIM WHILE I PILOT AN INCUBUS:C Maybe you cannot see it, but if you feel it... it may be there. ¨Warning. Its a scout trying to knife you¨
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1459	Posted - 2014.06.04 22:40:00 - [56] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Why do I always feel that game developers always favor heavys over all other dropsuits in this game? In this Hotfix they " increased speed penalties" increased? Why? So we can all move slower like a heavy? The way I see it would I like to move like a heavy? Or... Would I like to be a heavy and have more armor/shield and gun fire? Gallente scouts: "The Galdari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." yea, that's the point of being a Gallente scouts being able to see whats going on but with out being seen. Also to get "Gallente Scout" you have to be level 5 Gallente light so mabe you should get more. Now that the developers took that away there is less of a reason to be one. On the other hand more of a reason to be a heavy. Caldari Scout: "The Caldari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." Again why invest into a scout or anything else and get less out of it? This is not a good thing! How is this good for anyone other then heavy's? Assault Rifles: We tweaked the Assault Rifles a little bit, reducing the Combat Rifle damage a little bit Why? Assault rifles/Combat rifles they are a dying weapon in Dust. You want less people to use them? Also what did you to the Assault Rifles? You didn't tell us just that you "tweaked the assault rifles" Ummm the CR is a truly dominant weapon and vastly out powers the other light weapons at almost every range, thus it's 2% damage reduction. The AR on the other hand has sucked since the RR and CR came out, so much so that it needed some serious love. The 3% boost to damage that it got was a bit meager but might make it somewhat useful again. All this info was in the google doc if you bothered to look. Fun > Realism
TheBrimstone Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.06.04 22:46:00 - [57] - Quote Hi, I haven't included my opinion in any of these discussions yet because i'm sure i'm just a drop in the ocean but, since the cloak has been introduced i've been dissappointed. why hasn't there been an active scanner produced which can detect a cloaked enemy? if i were developing cloak tech. i'd be sure to develop protection from it aswell. am i alone in this?
Forlorn Destrier 2515	Posted - 2014.06.04 22:47:00 - [58] - Quote King0fHearts wrote: Why do I always feel that game developers always favor heavys over all other dropsuits in this game? In this Hotfix they " increased speed penalties" increased? Why? So we can all move slower like a heavy? The way I see it would I like to move like a heavy? Or... Would I like to be a heavy and have more armor/shield and gun fire? Gallente scouts: "The Galdari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." yea, that's the point of being a Gallente scouts being able to see whats going on but with out being seen. Also to get "Gallente Scout" you have to be level 5 Gallente light so mabe you should get more. Now that the developers took that away there is less of a reason to be one. On the other hand more of a reason to be a heavy. Caldari Scout: "The Caldari scout passive scan range bonus was also reduced, as it is one of the most powerful scanners available." Again why invest into a scout or anything else and get less out of it? This is not a good thing! How is this good for anyone other then heavy's? Assault Rifles: We tweaked the Assault Rifles a little bit, reducing the Combat Rifle damage a little bit Why? Assault rifles/Combat rifles they are a dying weapon in Dust. You want less people to use them? Also what did you to the Assault Rifles? You didn't tell us just that you "tweaked the assault rifles" Your logic is flawed. You need to go back to logic school
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 1017	Posted - 2014.06.04 23:06:00 - [59] - Quote Neat art work on the dev blog. Looks like a Minmatar LAV. [/shattered hopes and dreams] DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Meiko Shiraki A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE 21	Posted - 2014.06.05 00:45:00 - [60] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: So apparently the Caldari anti-armor starter fit is invalid now. Someone just told me this. Not like I care, but some people probably do. I can confirm that the Caldari Anti-Armor Starter Fit is no longer valid. The PG requirement is too much for what the suit has equipped. I mean, it's not that big of a deal overall because it's not like the Starter Fit anti-armor can really contribute to a battle. But for newcomers, it's kind of a weird situation. o_O\\ Oh well. If I need to, I just spam the starter fit medic.



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