Only if they can dual wield them. Magsec on my left and Scrambler Pistol on my right.

If Scouts are outperforming other suits, how about limiting them to sidearms only (and making the shotgun a sidearm)?

It'd make sense:
Heavies - heavy weapons
Mediums - light weapons
Lights (or just Scouts) - sidearms

Sure! But while you're at it, also limit:

* Tanks to Rail Turrets
* Dropships to Transport
* HMGs to 10 meters
* Logis to Reppers

This way, Scouts won't be alone when they walk out on Dust.

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I like Rattati's current approach a 'bit more than yours.
Scouts are getting nerfed, plenty enough as is.
Is it not yet time to sh*t on other classes?

Edit: Don't you drive a Tank? :: facepalm ::

Tankers giving suggestions to balance infantry.
This can only make the game better!

I'd be ok with this, but the Shotgun should remain a light weapon.

This would mean:

1.- The scout playstyle will be for scouting, eWar, squad intel, etc... as it always should have been.
2.- The Shotgun becomes a viable weapon for assaults and commandos (this way being more balanced. It would also make sense then to fit profile dampeners and kincats in medium suits instead of tanking modules, more variety).
3.- Assault suits are interesting again.


I love my scout, but i've been thinking a lot about this. I'd be happy doing scouty stuff instead of slaying people and denying the assault role completely.


+1

Its juts scouts CAN'T scout CCP removed the ability to actually scout from scouts. Well maybe apart the glitched Cal scout ut this seems to be a bug.

As CCP removed shared Team view they also removed the ability to scout for your team/squad. Also scanners are more useful for scouting than scouts more range and more precision especially on the gal logi.

To make things worse using a scanner rewards you with WP passive scouting don't. How are scouts supposed to gain WP?

Honestly what needs to go is the scanprofile reduction on Cloaks (I wonder why it was ever there if CCP wanted scouts to be invisible OR unscannable) and that's it mostly.

Maybe change the scanrange bonus on the gal scout to something else. Also IMHO the overpopulation of scouts is a myth. Sure there are more scouts but there are even more heavies out there and even lots of assaults and logis.

Just because a scout kills you (btw still the best way to earn WP as scout ) it does not mean there are huge problems with them...

There is a strong feeling that brick tanked scouts should go funny enough that this is only true for armor tanked scouts a scout with 500 Hp (or more) in shields with 50 Hp/s regen seems ok .

IMHO even brick tanked scouts are ok they are easy targets. and they are not faster with more Hp than their assault counterparts...plus you have to consider that CCP never rebalanced assault suits to match the current balance pass...

I'd be ok with this, but the Shotgun should remain a light weapon.

This would mean:

1.- The scout playstyle will be for scouting, eWar, squad intel, etc... as it always should have been.
2.- The Shotgun becomes a viable weapon for assaults and commandos (this way being more balanced. It would also make sense then to fit profile dampeners and kincats in medium suits instead of tanking modules, more variety).
3.- Assault suits are interesting again.


I love my scout, but i've been thinking a lot about this. I'd be happy doing scouty stuff instead of slaying people and denying the assault role completely.


+1

Overpopulation of scouts is *not* a myth, I have had plenty of games in the last few weeks where I have ran into teams where 8+ people were using scout suits with shotguns or assault combat rifles and remote explosives. It is so insanely easy it isn't even funny, it's near impossible to deal with because it's very easy to lose track of one scout (and they'll *always* have the choice of when to re-engage you because EWAR is ****ing awful for non-light suits) or while you're attempted to deal with one another runs up and shoots you in the back.

The cloak is not a defensive tool this can be demonstrated brilliantly here and here. It is infact a very, very powerful offensive tool which other suits have limited to *NO* ability to deal with and when combined with the fact that scouts can grab HP totals compareable to the best that medium frames have to offer while being faster and stealthier and *still* having their choice of equipment the problem is exacerbated. As Judge demonstrates in the first mover video you can play like a ****ing idiot and still be met with success because cloaking is blatantly overpowered (those are my words, not his), now imagine what happens when you play like a competent player with a squad of friends doing the same?

Have you tried playing solo in a skirmish or domination match while 5+ scouts are running around? You are useless unless you yourself are also a scout (preferably a gallente or caldari scout).

Scouts are broken, largely because EWAR is broken, the sheer amount of buffs that scouts got as a whole and because the playerbase of dust loves doing things that are oriented towards outright destroying the experience for other players.

Hmm may be I am just lucky to be thrown in matches with 8 + heavies plus logis behind them .

You guys are beating a dead Scout.
We're already getting nerf hammered; no further action needed.

Hotfix Alpha will unbunch lots of panties (ours included).
Scouts don't want to be FoTM; we want balance.

Which begs the question, what do Tankers want?
Harpyja?

I do not speak on behalf of every tanker. I also want balance.

If Scouts are outperforming other suits, how about limiting them to sidearms only (and making the shotgun a sidearm)?

It'd make sense:
Heavies - heavy weapons
Mediums - light weapons
Lights (or just Scouts) - sidearms

Sure! But while you're at it, also limit:

* Tanks to Rail Turrets
* Dropships to Transport
* HMGs to 10 meters
* Logis to Reppers

This way, Scouts won't be alone when they walk out on Dust.

I like Rattati's current approach a 'bit more than yours.
Scouts are getting nerfed plenty enough as is.
Is it not yet time to sh*t on other classes?

You guys are beating a dead Scout.
We're already getting nerf hammered; no further action needed.