Dear players,

As part of Hotfix alpha we will be making a few changes to the Planetary Conquest system.
Goals:
GÇó To replace income from passive sources with an increase in active income earned by
fighting in Planetary Conquest battles.
GÇó To re-establish the value of district ownership as the following:
Gùª Logistical convenience and cost efficiency through clone production and availability.
Gùª Content generation (as a launching platform for attacks, and a target of attacks)
GÇó To facilitate easier entry into Planetary Conquest by adjusting clone pack utility and
cost

What we're changing:
GÇó The resale value of excess clones generated by districts or victory in battle will be set
to zero.
GÇó The Biomass value earned by killing a clone in battle will be increased to 200,000 isk.
GÇó Clone pack size increased to 150. This should help more corporations gain a foothold
into Planetary Conquest.
GÇó Clone pack cost adjusted to 45 million isk. stupid change, lower price to 20 mil or 25 mil, the exploit where isk was refunded is fixed, corps don't profit off self attacking, so lower price. This is consistent with the current price of
300,000 isk per clone, and ensures that corps attacking their own districts do so at a
loss.

So now that all the little guys are in PC to be able to gain ISK by farming

It gets nullified

While veteran corps that have been farming forever (NS, AE, ERA etc.) Stay with 50 billion ISK+ without having to no longer fight

And clone packs increased to 45 million ISK a pack

So cargo hubs would theoretically take 135 million ISK to take (If you win every battle)

And the only people with that kind of ISK are corps that have been farming forever (NS, AE, ERA, etc.)

CCP Logic

So...
Now the blue doughnuts do friendly attacks on each other so as to lock their districts and generate ISK?

Yeah sure using clone packs it doesn't really work, but using clones generated at a district you can generate a good amount of money and then do an even split between both corps.

So...
Now the blue doughnuts do friendly attacks on each other so as to lock their districts and generate ISK?

Yeah sure using clone packs it doesn't really work, but using clones generated at a district you can generate a good amount of money and then do an even split between both corps.

So we're going to field a full 32 man match for every district? This fixes things more than it ever could be used to 'exploit'.

So we're going to field a full 32 man match for every district? This fixes things more than it ever could be used to 'exploit'.

I'll post what I put in the main sticky.



There is another side benefit to raising biomass payments. ISK generation shifting to biomass makes it possible to recoup costs much more quickly for breaking into PC. A team that consistently wins their battles can clone pack and take a districts and then proceed to use that district to attack others.

In the current system say you decided to take out a Cargo Hub. It would take three crappy clone packs ,that are too few clones to really win with anyways, so expect it to take more then 3 at best to take the district. This would result in an upfront cost of 108 million ISK plus whatever costs there are associated with fighting. You would likely land on the district with 100 clones or less, so you then have to spend at least 5 days just to fill up the district. You would then have to hold the district (without attacking or being attacked) for 2 weeks in order to barely get past breaking even.

With the scenario changed to biomass being the primary income source you would need to spend 5 days defending your district from likely counter attacks because you just kicked someone's teeth in. These attacks, because of the increase biomass payment, already start to fill your coffers as you win your fights. Once you hit 5 days of regen (or sooner if you decide to be bold) you can launch an attack with minimum cost and destroy an enemies clones for a significant profit. If you send a large attack (which owning a district enables you to do) you could even wipe out another district in one go. When you wipe out that district you will likely hit ISK positive if you have been defending from other attacks and payment from clones lost in battle as well. As you see with the changes a corp has gone from an ideal scenario of recouping their investment in almost three weeks to potentially less than 1 week. Nothing changes the fact that in order to be profitable you must win your fights.

So the only decent source of income in the game is going away, and is being replaced with a system where you have to grind against other corps?

1. Economic
* ISK is kind of pointless. With the news that DUST won't be getting a player market, money is of no importance. If you run isk positive by .01 ISK, you have officially beaten the economy. Anything that can be bought is sold infinitely meaning there is no supply and demand. Money is not needed in a world of no economy. If PC had existed in EVE with people making hundreds of billions of ISK the game would have been destroyed. That happened in DUST and yet it doesn't matter. ISK is pointless.

Why would you need 32 people for a "friendly match" that's meant purely for isk generation? Only need 1 person to collect the winning side's isk reward for the clones that get automatically biomassed...

We may one day get to the point where people can no longer run full proto 24/7, at which point it becomes a game of balance between competitive edge and the pocketbook.

You actually have to kill all the clones to extract the ISK. So if people in the donuts want to try and kill/suicide 1000s if clones a day more power to them. They still have to actively extract the wealth one clone at a time.

*Looks at Corp*
Hard to tell if this is a troll or serious statement.

@KainSpero
Does the MCC destruction of 150 clones still account for this final payout?

Is passive ISK being entirely removed?

Dear players,

As part of Hotfix alpha we will be making a few changes to the Planetary Conquest system.
Goals:
...

What we're changing:
GÇó The resale value of excess clones generated by districts or victory in battle will be set
to zero.