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mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 427	Posted - 2014.05.23 09:58:00 - [1] - Quote would fit a minmitar scout.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4722	Posted - 2014.05.23 10:01:00 - [2] - Quote Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA The DOT MAFIA 2	Posted - 2014.05.23 10:09:00 - [3] - Quote wood chipper or blender?
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 427	Posted - 2014.05.23 10:15:00 - [4] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA The DOT MAFIA 2	Posted - 2014.05.23 10:21:00 - [5] - Quote The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: wood chipper or blender? sorry, i misread your post.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 906	Posted - 2014.05.23 11:54:00 - [6] - Quote mr musturd wrote: would fit a minmitar scout. nova knives.
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 276	Posted - 2014.05.23 11:59:00 - [7] - Quote mr musturd wrote: would fit a minmitar scout. I can only assume they wouldn't. They probably don't enjoy dying any more than anyone else. I skilled into it on an alternative 5 months ago and I've played it maybe 2 dozen times since. Why can't they balance the suit bonuses? Not new, just new to you.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3448	Posted - 2014.05.23 12:33:00 - [8] - Quote You're assuming scouts are supposed to be slayers...they're not. It's only because the Gallente and Caldari scouts are so effective right now that the other scouts seem useless. A competitive Minmatar scout? Hack mods and sprint mods with remotes. Nova knives for slicing up anyone defending the objective. A competitive Caldari scout? Precision mods and range mods with a scanner. Long range weaponry to harass the enemy while still able to sneak behind enemy lines to find the enemy for your squad. Wait, why didn't I say shields and a scrambler rifle? Because if you WANT to do that, then you should be weak, easy to kill, and easy to detect. Obviously that isn't the case right now, which is why scouts are slayers. Gallente Scout? Shotgun, profile dampeners, range amps, point defense. You hide and wait inside an objective for the enemy to come to you. If they try and hack, BAM, dead, and back to the shadows. Agressive scout slayers don't make sense. Scouts with 600+ ehp and a cloak don't make sense. Scouts able to see the enemy without modules, or hide from the enemy without modules don't make sense. Passive bonuses without having to use a module to gain them don't make sense. And for the record, the Amarr scout isn't a scout. It's a light assault 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1466	Posted - 2014.05.23 12:36:00 - [9] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: You're assuming scouts are supposed to be slayers...they're not. It's only because the Gallente and Caldari scouts are so effective right now that the other scouts seem useless. A competitive Minmatar scout? Hack mods and sprint mods with remotes. Nova knives for slicing up anyone defending the objective. A competitive Caldari scout? Precision mods and range mods with a scanner. Long range weaponry to harass the enemy while still able to sneak behind enemy lines to find the enemy for your squad. Wait, why didn't I say shields and a scrambler rifle? Because if you WANT to do that, then you should be weak, easy to kill, and easy to detect. Obviously that isn't the case right now, which is why scouts are slayers. Gallente Scout? Shotgun, profile dampeners, range amps, point defense. You hide and wait inside an objective for the enemy to come to you. If they try and hack, BAM, dead, and back to the shadows. Agressive scout slayers don't make sense. Scouts with 600+ ehp and a cloak don't make sense. Scouts able to see the enemy without modules, or hide from the enemy without modules don't make sense. Passive bonuses without having to use a module to gain them don't make sense. And for the record, the Amarr scout isn't a scout. It's a light assault Please, make a viable PC ready min scout accounting for the alpha hot fix changes... Oh wait.... Delt for CPM1
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2014.05.23 13:23:00 - [10] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Please, make a viable PC ready min scout accounting for the alpha hot fix changes... Oh wait.... Until CCP fixes assaults, you cannot. The horde of scouts 1.8 created is getting very silly. And IGÇÖm just as guilty of it as anyone. All I see in these threads are people comparing scouts to other scouts. And the way I see it, the problem we have is that assault suits are not viable so most are using scout suits. If we had balance between suits, as in assaults were actually using assault suits, you could stop comparing scouts in this manner. Assaults, logis, Heavies and Commandos cannot scan scouts passively. In other words, scouts can evade all other suits except other scouts. This would be alright if the enemy team was fielding something other than scouts. Minmatar is fine against any suit that isnGÇÖt a scout, my Gallente assault would never see you coming even with the new cloak changes. My suit simply cannot scan that low. The issue you have with your minja is that IGÇÖm not in my assault but in my scout because it is vastly better. So not only can I hide from you, I see you coming. This is the same issue that we had with logis. People were screaming for nerfs when all that was need was a buff to assault suits. Logis and equipment were nerfed, they received silly bonuses and assaults moved on to scouts. I have never proto stomped but now that DUST 514 is dead I can do it without remorse!! 263 million ISK to go.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3953	Posted - 2014.05.23 13:47:00 - [11] - Quote However they fit it, there will be a shitton of non proto modules and/or weapons. Level 3 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 439	Posted - 2014.05.23 20:20:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: You're assuming scouts are supposed to be slayers...they're not. It's only because the Gallente and Caldari scouts are so effective right now that the other scouts seem useless. A competitive Minmatar scout? Hack mods and sprint mods with remotes. Nova knives for slicing up anyone defending the objective. A competitive Caldari scout? Precision mods and range mods with a scanner. Long range weaponry to harass the enemy while still able to sneak behind enemy lines to find the enemy for your squad. Wait, why didn't I say shields and a scrambler rifle? Because if you WANT to do that, then you should be weak, easy to kill, and easy to detect. Obviously that isn't the case right now, which is why scouts are slayers. Gallente Scout? Shotgun, profile dampeners, range amps, point defense. You hide and wait inside an objective for the enemy to come to you. If they try and hack, BAM, dead, and back to the shadows. Agressive scout slayers don't make sense. Scouts with 600+ ehp and a cloak don't make sense. Scouts able to see the enemy without modules, or hide from the enemy without modules don't make sense. Passive bonuses without having to use a module to gain them don't make sense. And for the record, the Amarr scout isn't a scout. It's a light assault I'm not trying to be a slayer in a minmitar, but as of now the suit is unable to perform its role of being a silent assassin. Don't accuse me of being a slayer I played the minmitar role the way it was intended for a very long time I use to speed tank and run with only a pistol and knife in PC. The point of this post is to find how the suit is designed to be fit to perform its role.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4728	Posted - 2014.05.23 20:59:00 - [13] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 1509	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:02:00 - [14] - Quote dont use the minmatar scout, use the minmatar light frame! i went 30-9 with it earlier, 200hp and extrememly fast! in fact I just hopped off my shotgun guy and played 4 or 5 games all between 20-30 kills with less than 10 death.s stop all this scout nonsense, the basic scout costs double the mlt light frame, that's it. no real advantage, just more expensive. DUST VIDEOS
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1631	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:09:00 - [15] - Quote A) You assume that many of them play. B) They are obviously biased, why else nerf an under used, under powered suit? "I've made a huge mistake." -G.O.B. Bluth
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 442	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:10:00 - [16] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 442	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:12:00 - [17] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: dont use the minmatar scout, use the minmatar light frame! i went 30-9 with it earlier, 200hp and extrememly fast! in fact I just hopped off my shotgun guy and played 4 or 5 games all between 20-30 kills with less than 10 death.s stop all this scout nonsense, the basic scout costs double the mlt light frame, that's it. no real advantage, just more expensive. Meh my best is 56/0 with no gun only knives, before 1.8, so get gud
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 445	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:58:00 - [18] - Quote The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: wood chipper or blender? sorry, i misread your post. lolwhut? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 445	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:04:00 - [19] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. you know what i thought chunky had a really good point after i read his post a few times and comprehended it....then i realised we're talking about PC so yeah. So yeah skirmish I can understand how minnie scout might own by not trying to kill but trying to win the game, but then when it comes to pc skirmish...different ball game I guess You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4730	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:25:00 - [20] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB

Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 4864	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:26:00 - [21] - Quote Scanned scout is dead scout in PC. All it takes is a single Cal Scout with 3x Complex Precision to make the Min Scout practically worthless. RIP Min Scout. I'll be skilling into something else for PC. For the First time since.....forever. I've never not run my Min Scout in PC Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 448	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:31:00 - [22] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC? I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC" Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 446	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:33:00 - [23] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. Dude gtfo out knives are NOT THE ISSUE its the funkin suit.knives worked fine in PC before the Cal scout and after this hotfix you will never see a minny scout in PC again
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 446	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:36:00 - [24] - Quote I love the knife bonus and have no issue with knives in PC if the suit could dampen properly I'd be cutting people in every PC
Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 110	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:06:00 - [25] - Quote I've been trying speed hacking recently, with a min scout. Admittedly I have a lot of room for improvement but the play style is extremely difficult. Fun but much harder than I thought. To be effective you really need 2 code breakers and being below radar is essential. This will be impossible after the hotfix as you will need 2 damps to avoid common scans, even in a proto suit. I predict a significant rise in Gal logi active scanners.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 448	Posted - 2014.05.24 08:51:00 - [26] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: [...] you will need 2 damps to avoid common scans, even in a proto suit. STD / ADV / PRO suits all have the same scan profile You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Vitharr Foebane Heaven's Lost Property 1249	Posted - 2014.05.24 09:07:00 - [27] - Quote mr musturd wrote: would fit a minmitar scout. could be worse. You could be running an Amarr "scout" Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4732	Posted - 2014.05.24 09:32:00 - [28] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. Dude gtfo out knives are NOT THE ISSUE its the funkin suit.knives worked fine in PC before the Cal scout and after this hotfix you will never see a minny scout in PC again I used to turn PC battles with a scout-fitted Minmatar logi. If you're struggling to do that with the suit the bonus should have been on all along, then frankly you need to get good. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4732	Posted - 2014.05.24 09:43:00 - [29] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC? I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC" Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete. Combat Rifle, ScP, Flux nades, Uplink, Cloak. Kin Cat, Codebreaker, dampener. And watever shields you can fit in the highs/A recharger if you run out of PG. I'm sincerely baffled by people's take on this issue. Are they expecting to walk their scouts right through the middle of the 1st or 2nd most contested Nulls in the match? I've just never had the problem these people are talking about. And I'm far from a virtuoso FPS player. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 448	Posted - 2014.05.24 09:48:00 - [30] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC? I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC" Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete. Combat Rifle, ScP, Flux nades, Uplink, Cloak. Kin Cat, Codebreaker, dampener. And watever shields you can fit in the highs/A recharger if you run out of PG. I'm sincerely baffled by people's take on this issue. Are they expecting to walk their scouts right through the middle of the 1st or 2nd most contested Nulls in the match? I've just never had the problem these people are talking about. And I'm far from a virtuoso FPS player. Thanks! Would you fit those on a min scout? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4733	Posted - 2014.05.24 10:01:00 - [31] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC. no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC? I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC" Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete. Combat Rifle, ScP, Flux nades, Uplink, Cloak. Kin Cat, Codebreaker, dampener. And watever shields you can fit in the highs/A recharger if you run out of PG. I'm sincerely baffled by people's take on this issue. Are they expecting to walk their scouts right through the middle of the 1st or 2nd most contested Nulls in the match? I've just never had the problem these people are talking about. And I'm far from a virtuoso FPS player. Thanks! Would you fit those on a min scout? [edit] After re-reading your post, I will assume yes....so, when you decide what to wear to PC, would you choose this min scout fit? Or would you choose something else? Since I don't play any more, I can't talk in present tense, but this would have been the default suit. With variations on modules & equipment depending on the target. e.g. swapping the dampener for another kincat if I was going for an outside point, or the kincat for a codebreaker for a well defended point. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3205	Posted - 2014.05.24 11:08:00 - [32] - Quote http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/193/4550 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8831	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:15:00 - [33] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/193/4550 Do you really need an Ishukone Cloak Field? I'm sure the ARN-18 is fine. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 453	Posted - 2014.05.24 21:33:00 - [34] - Quote Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC.[/quote] no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC? I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC" Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete.[/quote] Combat Rifle, ScP, Flux nades, Uplink, Cloak. Kin Cat, Codebreaker, dampener. And watever shields you can fit in the highs/A recharger if you run out of PG. I'm sincerely baffled by people's take on this issue. Are they expecting to walk their scouts right through the middle of the 1st or 2nd most contested Nulls in the match? I've just never had the problem these people are talking about. And I'm far from a virtuoso FPS player.[/quote] Thanks! Would you fit those on a min scout? [edit] After re-reading your post, I will assume yes....so, when you decide what to wear to PC, would you choose this min scout fit? Or would you choose something else?[/quote] Since I don't play any more, I can't talk in present tense, but this would have been the default suit. With variations on modules & equipment depending on the target. e.g. swapping the dampener for another kincat if I was going for an outside point, or the kincat for a codebreaker for a well defended point.[/quote] Since you don't play why are you commenting on PC fits, you obviously don't know the game is all about hiding from the Cal scout now which in a minny will take 2 damps and the bonus from the cloak
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 803	Posted - 2014.05.24 21:36:00 - [35] - Quote with lots of code breakers. dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514. dont worry my logis. i will protect u. unless its a scout. itd be too late
Pushing Charlie 89	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:34:00 - [36] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Look at you sensing all over the place, get out of here with your sense. Scouts just don't understand, they're not supposed to be a combat role. The sooner they learn this, the sooner balance can be achieved. Until then, Scout tears, best tears. Knight Soiaire Project Beast Hype train comin' through! From Software > CCP
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 453	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:59:00 - [37] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Look at you sensing all over the place, get out of here with your sense. Scouts just don't understand, they're not supposed to be a combat role. The sooner they learn this, the sooner balance can be achieved. Until then, Scout tears, best tears. I have been a scout since closed beta I know my role on the field and I play it very well but this is about the minmitar being UNABLE to excel at doing its role of being the silent assassin.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1084	Posted - 2014.05.24 23:21:00 - [38] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Notice your say skirmish... because yes the Minmatar scout trolls pubs perfectly .. It is PC where issues arise with it as no longer are the enemy dim-witted fools chasing WP They are active killers hunting anything within range, and a Scout that cannot remain undetected Is simply bait when gameplay is competitive ... But you are right Min Scout in pubs = Ez mode Until someone gets around to shooting your 400HP PRO Scout fit...
Pushing Charlie 89	Posted - 2014.05.24 23:42:00 - [39] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Notice your say skirmish... because yes the Minmatar scout trolls pubs perfectly .. It is PC where issues arise with it as no longer are the enemy dim-witted fools chasing WP They are active killers hunting anything within range, and a Scout that cannot remain undetected Is simply bait when gameplay is competitive ... But you are right Min Scout in pubs = Ez mode Until someone gets around to shooting your 400HP PRO Scout fit... Yeah, who needs a suit that can passively hack an objective in under five seconds in a competitive match?! Pfft suckers! Objectives are for scrubs! Knight Soiaire Project Beast Hype train comin' through! From Software > CCP
Faquira Bleuetta The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 397	Posted - 2014.05.25 00:12:00 - [40] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: You're assuming scouts are supposed to be slayers...they're not. It's only because the Gallente and Caldari scouts are so effective right now that the other scouts seem useless. A competitive Minmatar scout? Hack mods and sprint mods with remotes. Nova knives for slicing up anyone defending the objective. A competitive Caldari scout? Precision mods and range mods with a scanner. Long range weaponry to harass the enemy while still able to sneak behind enemy lines to find the enemy for your squad. Wait, why didn't I say shields and a scrambler rifle? Because if you WANT to do that, then you should be weak, easy to kill, and easy to detect. Obviously that isn't the case right now, which is why scouts are slayers. Gallente Scout? Shotgun, profile dampeners, range amps, point defense. You hide and wait inside an objective for the enemy to come to you. If they try and hack, BAM, dead, and back to the shadows. Agressive scout slayers don't make sense. Scouts with 600+ ehp and a cloak don't make sense. Scouts able to see the enemy without modules, or hide from the enemy without modules don't make sense. Passive bonuses without having to use a module to gain them don't make sense. And for the record, the Amarr scout isn't a scout. It's a light assault Gallente is a better light assault than Amarr

mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 455	Posted - 2014.05.25 00:46:00 - [41] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Notice your say skirmish... because yes the Minmatar scout trolls pubs perfectly .. It is PC where issues arise with it as no longer are the enemy dim-witted fools chasing WP They are active killers hunting anything within range, and a Scout that cannot remain undetected Is simply bait when gameplay is competitive ... But you are right Min Scout in pubs = Ez mode Until someone gets around to shooting your 400HP PRO Scout fit... Yeah, who needs a suit that can passively hack an objective in under five seconds in a competitive match?! Pfft suckers! Objectives are for scrubs! Good luck hacking when your gonna be seen before you even get close
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 103	Posted - 2014.05.25 01:02:00 - [42] - Quote mr musturd wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: dont use the minmatar scout, use the minmatar light frame! i went 30-9 with it earlier, 200hp and extrememly fast! in fact I just hopped off my shotgun guy and played 4 or 5 games all between 20-30 kills with less than 10 death.s stop all this scout nonsense, the basic scout costs double the mlt light frame, that's it. no real advantage, just more expensive. Meh my best is 56/0 with no gun only knives, before 1.8, so get gud Meh 100-0 melee only. Who the fuk brags about shiite like this? GG HTFU et al "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 448	Posted - 2014.05.25 08:04:00 - [43] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Look at you sensing all over the place, get out of here with your sense. Scouts just don't understand, they're not supposed to be a combat role. The sooner they learn this, the sooner balance can be achieved. Until then, Scout tears, best tears. Farking hell don't you realise this is about balancing the game? The question is: what's the point of the minmatar scout outside of pubs? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 760	Posted - 2014.05.25 08:05:00 - [44] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG Hence why I never speced back into Minmatar scout bro, go Gallente or even Caldari....... (its not good is it :( ) The Minmatar scout needs more speed to justifiy its position in the meta. Right now it is just not fast enough to warrant the downsides the suit has.
Jastaddd Death seeker NegativeKDR 111	Posted - 2014.05.25 09:29:00 - [45] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Look at you sensing all over the place, get out of here with your sense. Scouts just don't understand, they're not supposed to be a combat role. The sooner they learn this, the sooner balance can be achieved. Until then, Scout tears, best tears. Farking hell don't you realise this is about balancing the game? The question is: what's the point of the minmatar scout outside of pubs? In one of the last PC before i quit the game there we were using a Min.Scout that can hack in less than 3sec. He was hacking objective in a city full of heavy and force them to run around to counter hack. he grab 1 of the two point alone. EDIT OBv he didn't kill one of the heavy. Proud Original Member of the D.A.R.K. L.E.G.I.O.N. Heavy Infantry Division Using Heavy in PC before was Mainstream.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1086	Posted - 2014.05.25 10:06:00 - [46] - Quote *Can we quit with the Bullshit of Scouts aren't a combat role...* ???? This is an FPS, there is sweet f* all to do other than killing and you guys expect that a suit which costs as much, if not more SP than others due to other skills needed for Scouts What ??!!!??? should we walk around giving your dumb-asses intel..??? For what??? because you are too incompetent to look for guys yourself.... Yes, Scouts need fixing, but gimping them in combat is not the solution, this game is about combat Scouts should have 400-500 hp TOTAL... and after that we are the Assassins of Dust514 .. If you want, Scouts to be your passive, intel role...... Go join the Military.... This is an FPS...... Scouts kill..... HTFU**


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