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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:58:00 -
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would fit a minmitar scout. |
mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.05.23 10:15:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout.
no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG |
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:You're assuming scouts are supposed to be slayers...they're not.
It's only because the Gallente and Caldari scouts are so effective right now that the other scouts seem useless.
A competitive Minmatar scout? Hack mods and sprint mods with remotes. Nova knives for slicing up anyone defending the objective.
A competitive Caldari scout? Precision mods and range mods with a scanner. Long range weaponry to harass the enemy while still able to sneak behind enemy lines to find the enemy for your squad.
Wait, why didn't I say shields and a scrambler rifle? Because if you WANT to do that, then you should be weak, easy to kill, and easy to detect. Obviously that isn't the case right now, which is why scouts are slayers.
Gallente Scout? Shotgun, profile dampeners, range amps, point defense. You hide and wait inside an objective for the enemy to come to you. If they try and hack, BAM, dead, and back to the shadows.
Agressive scout slayers don't make sense. Scouts with 600+ ehp and a cloak don't make sense. Scouts able to see the enemy without modules, or hide from the enemy without modules don't make sense. Passive bonuses without having to use a module to gain them don't make sense.
And for the record, the Amarr scout isn't a scout. It's a light assault
I'm not trying to be a slayer in a minmitar, but as of now the suit is unable to perform its role of being a silent assassin. Don't accuse me of being a slayer I played the minmitar role the way it was intended for a very long time I use to speed tank and run with only a pistol and knife in PC. The point of this post is to find how the suit is designed to be fit to perform its role. |
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:10:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:mr musturd wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill.  A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D
Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. |
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:12:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:dont use the minmatar scout, use the minmatar light frame!
i went 30-9 with it earlier, 200hp and extrememly fast!
in fact I just hopped off my shotgun guy and played 4 or 5 games all between 20-30 kills with less than 10 death.s
stop all this scout nonsense, the basic scout costs double the mlt light frame, that's it.
no real advantage, just more expensive.
Meh my best is 56/0 with no gun only knives, before 1.8, so get gud |
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:33:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:mr musturd wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:mr musturd wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Check the Logicloop pre-fit scout. no thanks, i want to see a proto fit for competitive gameplay with proto knives. this suit has some serious issues your better of with a starter fit than a proto minny scout, and it bothers me i love to cut people but the suit is such garbage its not worth the frustration. As of now the minmitar is by far the weakest scout and has no real advantage besides the knife damage which doesnt really matter much since the suit itself is so weak and has horrible fitting due to shields and kin cats taking massive amounts of PG It's sad to see your post get likes. I'll freely concede that knives are worthless. You're better off with a pistol. But the suit is king of skirmish, and everybody complains it can't kill. A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble. Stop worrying about K/D Knives are far from worthless, but due to the Cal scout being able to see everything in a competitive game, it makes the minny scout useless. Your little pub fit with the codebreaker LOL that thing would be seen and gunned down before it even got close to a null cannon. Don't diss Nova knives and don't comment on a competitive fit if you've never actually played a competitive match. Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC.
Dude gtfo out knives are NOT THE ISSUE its the funkin suit.knives worked fine in PC before the Cal scout and after this hotfix you will never see a minny scout in PC again |
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:36:00 -
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I love the knife bonus and have no issue with knives in PC if the suit could dampen properly I'd be cutting people in every PC |
mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.05.24 21:33:00 -
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Not every weapon is designed for, or should be expected to perform in PC.[/quote]
no offense man but therefore...back to the OP. What would you fit? Is Min scout viable in PC?
I don't see OP moaning about KDR. Perhaps indirectly by saying how are knives (aka min scouts) useful in PC. More a "what point is there in min scout when it comes to PC"
Perhaps this is an excellent balance measure - in PC.....what works. When you bring your A-game - what do you and everyone else bring? Coz that's basically what makes anything obsolete.[/quote]
Combat Rifle, ScP, Flux nades, Uplink, Cloak.
Kin Cat, Codebreaker, dampener.
And watever shields you can fit in the highs/A recharger if you run out of PG.
I'm sincerely baffled by people's take on this issue. Are they expecting to walk their scouts right through the middle of the 1st or 2nd most contested Nulls in the match?
I've just never had the problem these people are talking about. And I'm far from a virtuoso FPS player.[/quote]
Thanks! Would you fit those on a min scout?
[edit] After re-reading your post, I will assume yes....so, when you decide what to wear to PC, would you choose this min scout fit? Or would you choose something else?[/quote]
Since I don't play any more, I can't talk in present tense, but this would have been the default suit. With variations on modules & equipment depending on the target.
e.g. swapping the dampener for another kincat if I was going for an outside point, or the kincat for a codebreaker for a well defended point.[/quote] Since you don't play why are you commenting on PC fits, you obviously don't know the game is all about hiding from the Cal scout now which in a minny will take 2 damps and the bonus from the cloak
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Posted - 2014.05.24 22:59:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
A kin cat, codebreaker and passive scanning modules will keep your Null cannons blue and you out of trouble.
Stop worrying about K/D
Look at you sensing all over the place, get out of here with your sense. Scouts just don't understand, they're not supposed to be a combat role. The sooner they learn this, the sooner balance can be achieved. Until then, Scout tears, best tears.
I have been a scout since closed beta I know my role on the field and I play it very well but this is about the minmitar being UNABLE to excel at doing its role of being the silent assassin. |
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Posted - 2014.05.25 00:46:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Notice your say skirmish... because yes the Minmatar scout trolls pubs perfectly .. It is PC where issues arise with it as no longer are the enemy dim-witted fools chasing WP They are active killers hunting anything within range, and a Scout that cannot remain undetected Is simply bait when gameplay is competitive ... But you are right Min Scout in pubs = Ez mode Until someone gets around to shooting your 400HP PRO Scout fit...  Yeah, who needs a suit that can passively hack an objective in under five seconds in a competitive match?! Pfft suckers! Objectives are for scrubs!
Good luck hacking when your gonna be seen before you even get close |
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