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BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 227	Posted - 2014.05.19 23:36:00 - [31] - Quote The Gal scout is not that good,I would rather play amarr scout and stack a kinetic booster with armor that can repair done simple as that. Need stamina for my runs. All eyes on me till you drop dead in your Blood mmmm yummy
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 580	Posted - 2014.05.19 23:55:00 - [32] - Quote The only thing that makes the gal scout OP is the fact they can use a plate, a damp, two kin cats, 3hp natural rep and all while being very fast, decently tanked, unscanable and invisible. Pair this with a shotgun combined with the decloak glitch and you have one of the most op combos in the game. However, most of the players that run the shotgun scout only do because they are terrible and shotgun scout is now ez mode. If they come up behind me they normally kill me, which is fine. But if I see them first I normally **** then with my ScR with a smile on my face. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 822	Posted - 2014.05.20 01:17:00 - [33] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Brokerib wrote: Every proto stomping squad will run a stacked Cal scout who can see everything within 100m, constantly and passively. Passive vision is far more powerful than passive invisibility. Tacnet wisibility is king, not stealth. ~75m max, Broker. You know better :-) But you do have a point; CalScouts are effective counters to GalScouts ... especially when those GalScouts are brick-tanking. brick tanking sure but if they run 2 complex precisons they will scan my caldari scout and then its even but they will have 2.5 times as much ehp So he sees you, and you see him ... Last build, that would've meant Knife Fight! Seriously though, getting spotted by folks with more HP than you is just part of being a Scout. You find a way to get away. Then you find a way to win. Be devious. Lure that f*cker. Outsmart him. Then make him remember you. PS: Don't see many GalScouts running precision amps; most are running shields or damage amps. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Yeeeuuuupppp The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 295	Posted - 2014.05.20 01:45:00 - [34] - Quote Not like CCP or the community cares. My gal scout is getting boring though, too easy I must admit. Back to the glorious assault suit. Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Feel the wrath of my troll
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2612	Posted - 2014.05.20 01:55:00 - [35] - Quote I thought the Amarr Scout had the most possible hp and is as equally versatile since they have more base health AND the same exact number of slots. We're unscannable to counter the Caldari's radar. Also, if they used their highs for precision instead of shield boosts, then maybe they would be able to scan a few, also Gallente logi with scanner. The reps are nice, but that's a Gallente trait. Complain about the whole race if you're going to cry about that. We're awesome. I've used all the other scouts and they each have different roles. Know them. Understand them. Utilize them to their advantage.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2612	Posted - 2014.05.20 02:01:00 - [36] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. If you put 2 complex precision on its basically just a bad caldari scout. Last i checked the bad version of something isnt OP. My cal scout runs 1 complex precison or I give up too much shield, It runs one amplifier because 25 meters is nothing, and the other low slot is a complex dam. I get scanned by gal scouts. gal scout with 2 complex precision are better than a cal with one. Afraid to lose shields. Complains about tanked scouts. My Scout Gk.0 has around 80 shields and 156 armor. No health buffs, but I utilize my bonuses wisely as stated on my post above. This is officially a troll thread.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1221	Posted - 2014.05.20 11:32:00 - [37] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Nerf the Dampning a bit. No one can scan them with 2 complex Dampners, OP, it's OP! Make it to they have to fill ALL their low slots, AND have their cloak active to remain off the radar 100%, no chance of being scanned. However, with no cloak a fully Precision equipped Proto Cal Scout or a Gal Logi can scan you. There- balance achieved. Cloaks are not the problem, again that dampening is! The smartest players know, that Tacnet 100% stealth is KING. You could give these guys only 1 HP, with that crazy Dampning, and they'd still do extremely well. The scouts do NOT want this nerfed, so they keep trying to misdirect the attention. But again, the Gallente scouts too low dampning is the problem. It takes one slot for a cal to achieve gal level dampening. It takes 2 for a gal to achieve cal level scanning because precision amps are only 20% bonus. So if youre playing ewar the cal basically has an extra slot.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8724	Posted - 2014.05.20 11:41:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Asya Belentine wrote: I do not run plates on my gal scout. I have a little over 220 ehp on my proto. If you run plates your not trying to be fast. OP I wouldnt say that. If you see me I'm dead. Just cuz your fit is different doesn't mean anything. The suit is easily abused as in 500 ehp+, unscannable, scans everything and invisible. This is why eHP Modules need to yield % values as opposed to a flat eHP number. Then you could stack all the plates you want on your scout, but you wouldn't be doing much good. Not only that, but it would encourage people to go with their suit's native "tank", as opposed to Dual Tanking or Inverse Tanking such as (for example), Armor Tanking a Caldari Assault Suit. As for what percentage that should be, I'm not quite sure. I'll try to come up with some comprehensive values when I get home from work. *Insert Witty Gameplay Remark Here* Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 79	Posted - 2014.05.20 11:42:00 - [39] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP I'll scan you. Sir Dukey wrote: -most versatile Not true at all. Sir Dukey wrote: -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners Nope. Sir Dukey wrote: -unscannable You need one dampener for that to work when cloaked, 2 when uncloaked. And most idiots are using armor plates instead of dampeners. Sir Dukey wrote: then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. I beg to differ. If I ever get enough SP to be a scout, you'll look away from the objective for a split second, and it'll be hacked. Because a Min Scout hacked it in less than 2 seconds while completely invisible and unscannable. GûéGûäGûà /Gûî /Gûî /Gûî Gûî GûêGûêGûàGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê] GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñn++
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1580	Posted - 2014.05.20 12:24:00 - [40] - Quote Cal scout is better

PLAYSTTION Universal Allies Inc. 136	Posted - 2014.05.20 12:41:00 - [41] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. The scout is Gallente, it makes sense. Back to BF1943, only 3 more ranks to go till at the top! Open Beta Vet 21mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1909	Posted - 2014.05.20 13:08:00 - [42] - Quote with the way scouts actually work in reality not the 1vs1 engagemet which seems to be always the focus of the gal scout argument...Which is their main strength a 1vs1 environment. Cal Scouts have sick SHield regen. Their suit slot load out is amazing for their purpose. They are built to be a true scout through and through and are the best hit and run suit in the game. Which is essentially a scout. Min scouts have a specific role no other suit does on the battlefield... And they win games with it... they take some negatives for it.. Nufff said. Amarr scouts.. The most survivability and jack of all trades suit... I would say UP... But some of the best scouts to ever play DUST run or ran it =+¬
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 4815	Posted - 2014.05.20 14:35:00 - [43] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. OP? No. Good suit? Sure. It has it's upsides, but I wouldn't call it "...the most OP scout.", not by a long shot. I believe they're all pretty balanced and are capable of fulfilling their roles properly. The Gal scout is leagues ahead of all of the other scouts in terms of fitting capabilities. It can practically do whatever it wants. Headed to Destiny, to Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 4815	Posted - 2014.05.20 14:37:00 - [44] - Quote Bethhy wrote: \ Min scouts have a specific role no other suit does on the battlefield... And they win games with it... they take some negatives for it.. Nufff said. I was so happy when Min Scouts got the Hack Speed bonus. That suit is a WP ***** suit now. Just run around hacking everything and assassinating anyone who isn't paying attention. Headed to Destiny, to Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 229	Posted - 2014.05.20 15:04:00 - [45] - Quote The Gal scout is only OP or what babies call it,is only what you say if they travel in groups other then that I can easily kill them if they be alone.You want op you don't know what it is.This game is balance and your a loser if you say otherwise.Op for a scout is to see your enemies and not get detected.Op for heavies is having a lot of armor and shielding.For logic and assault is to be fools and fight ahead on while carrying very useful equipment that can change the tides of battle if more people use it.I will tell what op is.For you see op is a word little Bi### say when they feel like losers and suck hard.Op is useful,smart players who are better then you.Made a strategy that works alot and fools like you and possible me(but not likely) fall Fall for it and lose a lot of times.Get more gear better scanners,more armor,and better weapons.You want to complain go to Rookie Training ground all you Loser who have just made a lot of comments here. All eyes on me till you drop dead in your Blood mmmm yummy
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13547	Posted - 2014.05.20 17:40:00 - [46] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Asya Belentine wrote: I do not run plates on my gal scout. I have a little over 220 ehp on my proto. If you run plates your not trying to be fast. OP I wouldnt say that. If you see me I'm dead. Just cuz your fit is different doesn't mean anything. The suit is easily abused as in 500 ehp+, unscannable, scans everything and invisible. Does a Calscout not do this as well? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1743	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:43:00 - [47] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. OP? No. Good suit? Sure. It has it's upsides, but I wouldn't call it "...the most OP scout.", not by a long shot. I believe they're all pretty balanced and are capable of fulfilling their roles properly. You call that balance when a SCOUT has more armor than the total EHP of my MEDIUM assault? When it's wielding a weapon of equal firepower as me, but has higher speed, less detectability, better passive scanning, and cloaking. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
emtbraincase Savage Bullet 172	Posted - 2014.05.20 20:32:00 - [48] - Quote Harpyja wrote: m twiggz wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. OP? No. Good suit? Sure. It has it's upsides, but I wouldn't call it "...the most OP scout.", not by a long shot. I believe they're all pretty balanced and are capable of fulfilling their roles properly. You call that balance when a SCOUT has more armor than the total EHP of my MEDIUM assault? When it's wielding a weapon of equal firepower as me, but has higher speed, less detectability, better passive scanning, and cloaking. Don't run assault unless ur doing it for the suit bonus, just run a scout. Not trolling, just stating the obvious, since there is NO REASON TO RUN ASSAULT as Dust stands right now. Seriously, I thought we, as a community, already came to an agreement about this.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 338	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:46:00 - [49] - Quote Gal scout should only get a 2 or 3% bonus to dampening per level skilled into it. I actually think this should be across the board to include the hack bonus of min scout and the range amp and precision bonus of a cal scout. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:50:00 - [50] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Gal scout should only get a 2 or 3% bonus to dampening per level skilled into it. I actually think this should be across the board to include the hack bonus of min scout and the range amp and precision bonus of a cal scout. lol, no.

KingBabar MAG was better... 2530	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:51:00 - [51] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. If you put 2 complex precision on its basically just a bad caldari scout. Last i checked the bad version of something isnt OP. My cal scout runs 1 complex precison or I give up too much shield, It runs one amplifier because 25 meters is nothing, and the other low slot is a complex dam. I get scanned by gal scouts. gal scout with 2 complex precision are better than a cal with one. I have both at proto and I will claim I'm one of the most experienced groundpounder/CQC players in this game. And you're completely wrong. Cal scout base scan is 37.5 m with maxed skills. Fit one range and one precision amp and you see every suit except for a Gal scout with cloak or any other scout with cloak + dampener within a 54 m radius. (Provided they all have maxed skills) Combine that with 380 super fast repping shields and 153 armor at 2 rep and add a claok + hive and whatever proto gun you like, and the suit is very competitive. I currently run it at a 6 KDR with dual scrambler pistols... The Gal scout on the other hand, well I'm already bored by this, its insanely OP on so many levels and I've simply deleted all my fittings with it. 700 HP with 9,25 armor rep and 30 shield rep and 37.5 passive scan that see most other suits and the ability to fit all this, proto gun, enh sidearm, proto nade and cloak and a fluxing allotek hive on top. There is nothing like being a relatively fast an agile character and have 470 armor that reps 9,25 + 40 + 40 + 9,25 + 40 + 40 - And its also so stealthy by default that many don't even bother with a dampener.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:52:00 - [52] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Asya Belentine wrote: I do not run plates on my gal scout. I have a little over 220 ehp on my proto. If you run plates your not trying to be fast. OP I wouldnt say that. If you see me I'm dead. Just cuz your fit is different doesn't mean anything. The suit is easily abused as in 500 ehp+, unscannable, scans everything and invisible. Does a Calscout not do this as well? it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13557	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:53:00 - [53] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps. Uh, yes it does? With a 50 HP/s regen on a 3s delay no less. And you can still fit a range amp and a damp. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8741	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:00:00 - [54] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps. Uh, yes it does? With a 50 HP/s regen on a 3s delay no less. And you can still fit a range amp and a damp. I love shields. :D The Injector Ninja Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13557	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:01:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps. Uh, yes it does? With a 50 HP/s regen on a 3s delay no less. And you can still fit a range amp and a damp. I love shields. :D I freaking adore the calscout atm. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:11:00 - [56] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps. Uh, yes it does? With a 50 HP/s regen on a 3s delay no less. And you can still fit a range amp and a damp. not with a damp and precion. your max shields you get with one precision is 380, max armor is 87 and you can put complex plate but that is just stupid on a shield tanking scout, its like having and extra 250 worthless hp that doesnt regenerate without a triage hive. Edit: 50 HP/s with 3 sec delay is pointless especially when you run into the wrong heavy.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13558	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:28:00 - [57] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: not with a damp and precion. your max shields you get with one precision is 380, max armor is 87 and you can put complex plate but that is just stupid on a shield tanking scout, its like having and extra 250 worthless hp that doesnt regenerate without a triage hive. Edit: 50 HP/s with 3 sec delay is pointless especially when you run into the wrong heavy. You don't need a precision amp. Dampener has no effect on your tank. The other low slot is free for a number of things, kincats, range amps, reactives, etc. If you're losing 450 shield HP so quickly that 50 HP/s 3s delay is 'pointless' then the problem lies entirely with you. That is the most powerful shield regen in the game coupled with a decent shield tank. If you can't make that work the problem is not the suit. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8743	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:54:00 - [58] - Quote [Scout] Boundless CR (LP) - Ishukone NKs Features: Speed & HP +High eHP for a Shield Tank (453HP) +High Sprint Speed (9.02m/s) +High Shield Regeneration Rate (50HP/s) Electronic Warfare +Low Scan Profile (23db) +Low Scan Precision (27db) Combat Capabilities +Boundless Combat Rifle for CQC and Mid Range Combat +Ishukone Nova Knives for High Alpha Capabilities in CQC +Remote Explosive for Point Defense and High Alpha Capabilities against multiple targets Notes: @Sir Dukey This fit has no problem with running into the wrong Heavy, as not only is it impossible for Sentinel/Commando/Basic Heavy Frames to avoid this fitting's passive scan; but the Ishukone NKs/Clack Field combo allows for an easy backstabbing, not to mention the Remote Explosives. @~~Cat Merc~~ Arkena Wyrnspire I'm rather enjoying the Caldari Scout, which is the first PRO suit I've ever used that isn't a Minmatar Frame. Luckly using Caldari Suits isn't OOC in terms of my RP character. The Injector Ninja Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 23:53:00 - [59] - Quote Atiim wrote: [Scout] Boundless CR (LP) - Ishukone NKs Features: Speed & HP +High eHP for a Shield Tank (453HP) +High Sprint Speed (9.02m/s) +High Shield Regeneration Rate (50HP/s) Electronic Warfare +Low Scan Profile (23db) +Low Scan Precision (27db) Combat Capabilities +Boundless Combat Rifle for CQC and Mid Range Combat +Ishukone Nova Knives for High Alpha Capabilities in CQC +Remote Explosive for Point Defense and High Alpha Capabilities against multiple targets Notes: @Sir Dukey This fit has no problem with running into the wrong Heavy, as not only is it impossible for Sentinel/Commando/Basic Heavy Frames to avoid this fitting's passive scan; but the Ishukone NKs/Clack Field combo allows for an easy backstabbing, not to mention the Remote Explosives. @~~Cat Merc~~ Arkena Wyrnspire I'm rather enjoying the Caldari Scout, which is the first PRO suit I've ever used that isn't a Minmatar Frame. Luckly using Caldari Suits isn't OOC in terms of my RP character. that's the fit I avoid. you cannot scan jack with that, especially a gallante scout with a cloak. Also 540 hp is like the max (good) ehp it can get without stupid armor tanking a cal scout, a gal scout on the other hand can have over 700 ehp easy.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.21 00:10:00 - [60] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: not with a damp and precion. your max shields you get with one precision is 380, max armor is 87 and you can put complex plate but that is just stupid on a shield tanking scout, its like having and extra 250 worthless hp that doesnt regenerate without a triage hive. Edit: 50 HP/s with 3 sec delay is pointless especially when you run into the wrong heavy. You don't need a precision amp. Dampener has no effect on your tank. The other low slot is free for a number of things, kincats, range amps, reactives, etc. If you're losing 450 shield HP so quickly that 50 HP/s 3s delay is 'pointless' then the problem lies entirely with you. That is the most powerful shield regen in the game coupled with a decent shield tank. If you can't make that work the problem is not the suit. My, std AR on my STD cal scout has taken care of many PRO cal scouts. It's just that gallante scouts are the hardest to kill. For one they are unscannable without 2 scan precision's, and 2, they have most health. most gallante scouts reach 700 ehp easily. My militia gallante is running 350 armor with 157 shields, cloak, 10 armor reps/s and takes a cal scout with 2 complex scans to scan when im cloaked. it gets 18.5 db with my proto gallante skill on my alt. It's a scout suit that is jack of all trades. It can tank, scan, dampen and run fast.



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