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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
347
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:13:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:-Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S
then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever.
it cant be op if iam killing them while their cloaked with my assault gk.o with creodron AR. or form my tank.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
885
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:15:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:-Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S
then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. it cant be op if iam killing them while their cloaked with my assault gk.o with creodron AR. or form my tank.
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
149
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:36:00 -
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Cal scout > gal scout because of hit-and-run capabilities. oh, and i can see gal scouts on my passive while they are cloaked, because i am > duvolle focused scanners (At least i think so)
Don't read this next statement.
You little rebel, i like that.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2626
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Posted - 2014.05.21 02:22:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Cal scout > gal scout because of hit-and-run capabilities. oh, and i can see gal scouts on my passive while they are cloaked, because i am > duvolle focused scanners (At least i think so) I think so. At least, without the Gallente Logistics bonus.
Either way, I can get below your radar easily. You're probably scanning new guys, or something. |
Izlare Lenix
Arrogance. Dark Taboo
584
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:30:00 -
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Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1529
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:43:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot.
If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
9836
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:25:00 -
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Which explains why all I see the "pros" use is the Caldari scout, right?
No seriously, squads and squads of Caldari scouts, with a couple of Gallente scouts when I play against proto stompers.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance. Dark Taboo
584
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:00:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped.
The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank?
@ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance. Dark Taboo
584
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:16:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped.
The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank?
@ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
469
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:21:00 -
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Gallente Scouts: "Caldari Scouts are OP"
Caldari Scouts: "Gallente Scouts are OP"
Everyone Else: "I ******* hate Scouts"
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3258
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:28:00 -
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Remove CR and Cloak. Problem solved.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1529
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:02:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped. The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank? @ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal.
Oh, my mistake. Um, yeah that's not bricked. Its not balanced but at least theres a counter. Mass Driver my friend. On a Cal Scout. OP.
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1288
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Posted - 2014.05.21 08:55:00 -
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Dragonfly scout is op. I love mine.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.05.21 10:52:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped.
brick tanking scouts is a viable tactic if you want to play medium assault, personally I run one complx damp, complex plate, complex rep, complex kin katz. It has about 311 armor, 8.8 m/s but using a damp on gallante scout is stupid because they are already under most radars, it will take a caldari scout with 2 complex precision to scan which most people are not willing to run. |
Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.05.21 11:04:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped. The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank? @ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal. Oh, my mistake. Um, yeah that's not bricked. Its not balanced but at least theres a counter. Mass Driver my friend. On a Cal Scout. OP.
cal scout cannot detect a gal scout, to detect one the cal scout literally has to be a glass cannon with 3-4 complex precision enhancers. A gal scout with 1 complex damp and cloak is 13 db. Also, you have a better chance of killing a gal scout with a acr than a mass driver. |
Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.05.21 11:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Which explains why all I see the "pros" use is the Caldari scout, right?
No seriously, squads and squads of Caldari scouts, with a couple of Gallente scouts when I play against proto stompers.
proto stompers will always use a cal scout with 4 complex- 3 complex precions to scan everything with 2 complex range amps so they can see everyone, that's not really a viable killing fit because they're bout to get killed in .0001 secs to every weapon when they are spotted. Proto stompers will abuse everything, passive radar is not suppose to go to squad but it does and It wasn't suppose to. |
Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
888
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Posted - 2014.05.21 11:09:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Cal scout > gal scout because of hit-and-run capabilities. oh, and i can see gal scouts on my passive while they are cloaked, because i am > duvolle focused scanners (At least i think so)
so you can scan 13 db? how many complex precisions did that take you? 4? You're glass cannon now? |
Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
4829
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:49:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Gallente Scouts: "Caldari Scouts are OP"
Caldari Scouts: "Gallente Scouts are OP"
Everyone Else: "I ******* hate Scouts"
Min Scouts: "Why does everyone else get to have all the fun?"
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
354
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Posted - 2014.05.22 00:04:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps.
This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies.
And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m.
This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped. The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank? @ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal. Oh, my mistake. Um, yeah that's not bricked. Its not balanced but at least theres a counter. Mass Driver my friend. On a Cal Scout. OP. cal scout cannot detect a gal scout, to detect one the cal scout literally has to be a glass cannon with 3-4 complex precision enhancers. A gal scout with 1 complex damp and cloak is 13 db. Also, you have a better chance of killing a gal scout with a acr than a mass driver.
Precision enhancement doesn't have stacking penalties. I ran a 4db min scout and was being spotted and chased down from far away in a PC recently. How you get to 4db as a min?
3 complex dampeners. If you add a cloak then you under 4 db and guess what? I was still being seen and chased. I literally watched from the distance as they stopped going after another squad on my team, completely turn around and chase me simply because I was closer to the null. I didn't even drop uplinks to make 100% of what I was seeing.
Theoretically if a Cal Scout runs 4 complex precision enhancers then they see everything over 1db. 25% passive suit bonus, 10% core bonus, 80% module bonus. That obviously adds to over 100%.
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