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Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 877	Posted - 2014.05.19 20:43:00 - [1] - Quote -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 877	Posted - 2014.05.19 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. OP? No. Good suit? Sure. It has it's upsides, but I wouldn't call it "...the most OP scout.", not by a long shot. I believe they're all pretty balanced and are capable of fulfilling their roles properly. r u freking kidding me?
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 877	Posted - 2014.05.19 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote Asya Belentine wrote: I do not run plates on my gal scout. I have a little over 220 ehp on my proto. If you run plates your not trying to be fast. OP I wouldnt say that. If you see me I'm dead. Just cuz your fit is different doesn't mean anything. The suit is easily abused as in 500 ehp+, unscannable, scans everything and invisible.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 877	Posted - 2014.05.19 21:41:00 - [4] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. If you put 2 complex precision on its basically just a bad caldari scout. Last i checked the bad version of something isnt OP. My cal scout runs 1 complex precison or I give up too much shield, It runs one amplifier because 25 meters is nothing, and the other low slot is a complex dam. I get scanned by gal scouts. gal scout with 2 complex precision are better than a cal with one.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 878	Posted - 2014.05.19 23:24:00 - [5] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Brokerib wrote: Every proto stomping squad will run a stacked Cal scout who can see everything within 100m, constantly and passively. Passive vision is far more powerful than passive invisibility. Tacnet wisibility is king, not stealth. ~75m max, Broker. You know better :-) But you do have a point; CalScouts are effective counters to GalScouts ... especially when those GalScouts are brick-tanking. brick tanking sure but if they run 2 complex precisons they will scan my caldari scout and then its even but they will have 2.5 times as much ehp
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:50:00 - [6] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Gal scout should only get a 2 or 3% bonus to dampening per level skilled into it. I actually think this should be across the board to include the hack bonus of min scout and the range amp and precision bonus of a cal scout. lol, no.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 21:52:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Asya Belentine wrote: I do not run plates on my gal scout. I have a little over 220 ehp on my proto. If you run plates your not trying to be fast. OP I wouldnt say that. If you see me I'm dead. Just cuz your fit is different doesn't mean anything. The suit is easily abused as in 500 ehp+, unscannable, scans everything and invisible. Does a Calscout not do this as well? it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:11:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: it doesn't go 500 ehp + unless you are stupidly stacking armor. Cal scout is only good if you put on precion enhancers and range amps. Uh, yes it does? With a 50 HP/s regen on a 3s delay no less. And you can still fit a range amp and a damp. not with a damp and precion. your max shields you get with one precision is 380, max armor is 87 and you can put complex plate but that is just stupid on a shield tanking scout, its like having and extra 250 worthless hp that doesnt regenerate without a triage hive. Edit: 50 HP/s with 3 sec delay is pointless especially when you run into the wrong heavy.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.20 23:53:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: [Scout] Boundless CR (LP) - Ishukone NKs Features: Speed & HP +High eHP for a Shield Tank (453HP) +High Sprint Speed (9.02m/s) +High Shield Regeneration Rate (50HP/s) Electronic Warfare +Low Scan Profile (23db) +Low Scan Precision (27db) Combat Capabilities +Boundless Combat Rifle for CQC and Mid Range Combat +Ishukone Nova Knives for High Alpha Capabilities in CQC +Remote Explosive for Point Defense and High Alpha Capabilities against multiple targets Notes: @Sir Dukey This fit has no problem with running into the wrong Heavy, as not only is it impossible for Sentinel/Commando/Basic Heavy Frames to avoid this fitting's passive scan; but the Ishukone NKs/Clack Field combo allows for an easy backstabbing, not to mention the Remote Explosives. @~~Cat Merc~~ Arkena Wyrnspire I'm rather enjoying the Caldari Scout, which is the first PRO suit I've ever used that isn't a Minmatar Frame. Luckly using Caldari Suits isn't OOC in terms of my RP character. that's the fit I avoid. you cannot scan jack with that, especially a gallante scout with a cloak. Also 540 hp is like the max (good) ehp it can get without stupid armor tanking a cal scout, a gal scout on the other hand can have over 700 ehp easy.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.21 00:10:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: not with a damp and precion. your max shields you get with one precision is 380, max armor is 87 and you can put complex plate but that is just stupid on a shield tanking scout, its like having and extra 250 worthless hp that doesnt regenerate without a triage hive. Edit: 50 HP/s with 3 sec delay is pointless especially when you run into the wrong heavy. You don't need a precision amp. Dampener has no effect on your tank. The other low slot is free for a number of things, kincats, range amps, reactives, etc. If you're losing 450 shield HP so quickly that 50 HP/s 3s delay is 'pointless' then the problem lies entirely with you. That is the most powerful shield regen in the game coupled with a decent shield tank. If you can't make that work the problem is not the suit. My, std AR on my STD cal scout has taken care of many PRO cal scouts. It's just that gallante scouts are the hardest to kill. For one they are unscannable without 2 scan precision's, and 2, they have most health. most gallante scouts reach 700 ehp easily. My militia gallante is running 350 armor with 157 shields, cloak, 10 armor reps/s and takes a cal scout with 2 complex scans to scan when im cloaked. it gets 18.5 db with my proto gallante skill on my alt. It's a scout suit that is jack of all trades. It can tank, scan, dampen and run fast.

Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 885	Posted - 2014.05.21 00:15:00 - [11] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: -Most possible HP -most versatile -can scan almost anything with 2 complx scanners -unscannable - 3 passive HP/S then add cloak and you have the most fking OP thing ever. it cant be op if iam killing them while their cloaked with my assault gk.o with creodron AR. or form my tank. you must be playing dummies.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2014.05.21 10:52:00 - [12] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps. This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies. And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m. This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped. brick tanking scouts is a viable tactic if you want to play medium assault, personally I run one complx damp, complex plate, complex rep, complex kin katz. It has about 311 armor, 8.8 m/s but using a damp on gallante scout is stupid because they are already under most radars, it will take a caldari scout with 2 complex precision to scan which most people are not willing to run.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2014.05.21 11:04:00 - [13] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can scan a max skilled gal scout with 1 complex damp and a cloak or two complex damps. This is why the gal scout with 1 damp, 1 plate and 2 kin cat fit combined with a shotgun is an OP fit. They have decent health, rep 3hp a sec, are invisable and unscannable when cloaked and still run very fast. All while being able to ohk most scouts and some med frames while still invisible. And they can 3-4 shot most heavies. And with two precision enhancers this gal scout can scan every suit in the game except another gal scout, a non gal scout with 2 damps or a medium suit with three damps. And they can scan this out to 37m. This gal scout fit with a shotgun is hands down the most unbalanced fit in the game and to say otherwise you are an idiot. If your bricking your scout with a cloak and shotgun your doing it wrong. Your confusing f@g scouts with real ones. Its the f@gs that are r e t a r d s. Were not invisible. Its annoying yeah but get used to it its been like this since 1.8 dropped. The fit I listed is not a brick tank. How is a plate, a damp and two kin cats a brick tank? @ Cat merc. I have seen a pretty even distribution of Gal and Cal scouts with some minny and few amarr. The Cal scout is very strong but there are several counters to it depending on their fit. There is zero counter to a gal scout with one damp and a cloak as nothing can scan them. The only counter to them is your eyes. And even while being unscanable a gal can be much faster than a cal or have significantly more tank than a cal. Oh, my mistake. Um, yeah that's not bricked. Its not balanced but at least theres a counter. Mass Driver my friend. On a Cal Scout. OP. cal scout cannot detect a gal scout, to detect one the cal scout literally has to be a glass cannon with 3-4 complex precision enhancers. A gal scout with 1 complex damp and cloak is 13 db. Also, you have a better chance of killing a gal scout with a acr than a mass driver.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2014.05.21 11:08:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Which explains why all I see the "pros" use is the Caldari scout, right? No seriously, squads and squads of Caldari scouts, with a couple of Gallente scouts when I play against proto stompers. proto stompers will always use a cal scout with 4 complex- 3 complex precions to scan everything with 2 complex range amps so they can see everyone, that's not really a viable killing fit because they're bout to get killed in .0001 secs to every weapon when they are spotted. Proto stompers will abuse everything, passive radar is not suppose to go to squad but it does and It wasn't suppose to.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2014.05.21 11:09:00 - [15] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Cal scout > gal scout because of hit-and-run capabilities. oh, and i can see gal scouts on my passive while they are cloaked, because i am > duvolle focused scanners (At least i think so) so you can scan 13 db? how many complex precisions did that take you? 4? You're glass cannon now?