I want a Capture the Flag and a Hunter game-mode (one dude has plenty of perks, but is against everyone else. He who kills the hunter, becomes it).

EDIT: I loved Operations mode in Killzone 3, so maybe something like that, too? Gimme, plz?

I want the feeling of Skirmish 1.0 again

Ignore everyone else.

The only game mode in Legion that is going to be as much of a sandbox as all of these dreamers want will be PC. The MAJORITY of players will not be playing PC, they will instead be either fighting drones, or participating in FW.

Drone matches WILL have different types of game modes absolutely. For example, imagine something like players boarding ships to go hunt drones on a certain area of the planet. You would be hired by a NPC, and they would pay you based on the work done. That area will need to cleared out and the drones might only be located inside of a structure or base (or possibly multiple small bases). After all of the drones are destroyed, you get rewards and are returned back to the hangar to be hired on for another mission.

But we can mix it up and have objectives that spawn drones...so you have to hack the objective to turn off the spawning mechanism. Maybe you have a limited amount of clones and the drones can turn the spawners back on. Maybe there will be defences/barriers you have to destroy as you breach the walls of a structure or city.
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And then with FW, you'll essentially be hired on as a merc to fight for one side or the other. Say Gallente places an attack on Caldari and they need X amount of mercs before they can attack. Caldari finds out they are being attacked and needs to hire mercs to defend. Bam, you have a battle.

Here comes the sandbox part. As Caldari, you already have a base captured and you spawn in waiting for the Gallente to show up. As Gallente, you're being dropped in by the Mobile MCC outside of the base, trying to push into the city to take control. Each side has only spent a certain amount of resources, so once one side runs out, the other is victorious.

Either way, these battles can have objectives, or breach mechanics, or just be about who can clone the other team out. These types of game modes should be interesting, and I agree that there should just be more than your standard TDM.

You could go crazy with these ideas, like maybe Gallente spies placed a bomb inside the caldari base and you have to figure out where it's located before time runs out. Maybe there's a fight going on in space and you have to charge a cannon for 10 minutes while another team tries to stop you.

Just because it's a sandbox, doesn't mean we can't have interesting reasons for why we're fighting. Because if we didn't, Legion would become Planetside 2...and trust me, PS2 doesn't make you feel like you're fighting for anything.

i stopped at "ignore everyone else". That mentality is what messed up Dust in the first place. That mentality is what messed a lot of things up tbh.

That doesn't even make sense, Dust's problems don't primarily stem from ignoring certain people; especially when certain people are pretty stupid.

If you want the vast majority of the game to be open world, then it will just be Planetside 2, it would hurt the game in many ways. You can just go play Planetside 2 if this is what you want.

If anything, you guys need to learn how to -snip- quotes.

Don't quote my WHOLE post just to say two lines.

I hate it when people claim to represent the majority of the community, especially when in this particular case only a handful of people are weighing in.

I've not seen anyone say they have represent most of the playerbase. All I've seen is you thinking that you know everything, and that you're always right.

Well that's just because I am always right. Its just a simple matter of fact, the sooner you can accept it, the sooner you can find peace.

1: What drugs did you take today?

2: Are you drunk?

3: are you a rich little ****?

I'm pretty sure it's one of these things, or you just have a god complex, in which either way, I'll never take you serious. Ever. Hell, I've already stopped taking you serious, because most of the time, all you do is copy others.

1: What drugs did you take today?

2: Are you drunk?

3: are you a rich little ****?

I'm pretty sure it's one of these things, or you just have a god complex, in which either way, I'll never take you serious. Ever. Hell, I've already stopped taking you serious, because most of the time, all you do is copy others.

I only took a bit of spice today (AKA "melange"), my people get it from planet Arakis (AKA "Dune"). You're just hatin because I have ridden the sandworm. I am the god-king emperor.

Seriously though, DUST Fiend is right. I actually laughed when you commented and thought I was actually serious. I would like some examples of my plagiarism; should be entertaining.

Ignore everyone else.

The only game mode in Legion that is going to be as much of a sandbox as all of these dreamers want will be PC. The MAJORITY of players will not be playing PC, they will instead be either fighting drones, or participating in FW.

Drone matches WILL have different types of game modes absolutely. For example, imagine something like players boarding ships to go hunt drones on a certain area of the planet. You would be hired by a NPC, and they would pay you based on the work done. That area will need to cleared out and the drones might only be located inside of a structure or base (or possibly multiple small bases). After all of the drones are destroyed, you get rewards and are returned back to the hangar to be hired on for another mission.

But we can mix it up and have objectives that spawn drones...so you have to hack the objective to turn off the spawning mechanism. Maybe you have a limited amount of clones and the drones can turn the spawners back on. Maybe there will be defences/barriers you have to destroy as you breach the walls of a structure or city.
__________________________________________________________

And then with FW, you'll essentially be hired on as a merc to fight for one side or the other. Say Gallente places an attack on Caldari and they need X amount of mercs before they can attack. Caldari finds out they are being attacked and needs to hire mercs to defend. Bam, you have a battle.

Here comes the sandbox part. As Caldari, you already have a base captured and you spawn in waiting for the Gallente to show up. As Gallente, you're being dropped in by the Mobile MCC outside of the base, trying to push into the city to take control. Each side has only spent a certain amount of resources, so once one side runs out, the other is victorious.

Either way, these battles can have objectives, or breach mechanics, or just be about who can clone the other team out. These types of game modes should be interesting, and I agree that there should just be more than your standard TDM.

You could go crazy with these ideas, like maybe Gallente spies placed a bomb inside the caldari base and you have to figure out where it's located before time runs out. Maybe there's a fight going on in space and you have to charge a cannon for 10 minutes while another team tries to stop you.

Just because it's a sandbox, doesn't mean we can't have interesting reasons for why we're fighting. Because if we didn't, Legion would become Planetside 2...and trust me, PS2 doesn't make you feel like you're fighting for anything.

False

I think people are looking at game modes as something archaic and "passe"..... but in actuality they fit into the theme of being a mercenary perfectly.

We are cloned immortal soldiers. We don't fight wars like normal soldiers, we don't and probably logically won't have gruelling and intensive battles where we slog it out for hours, days, weeks.....not that there is anything wrong with this.

Instead what makes more sense and is better for immersion is if we as mercenaries pick up and deploy to "Flashpoints" emergent battles and conflicts. These being limited and specific battle types (our game modes) where our employers the NPC agents dictate the rules.

Logically as a mercenary I would never commit to massive attrition based campaigns without good reason. As a mercenary I would strike hard at the flanks of battle lines, cripple and destroy pockets of enemy resistance, and do all of the dangerous but highly important jobs no one else would do in very quick and isolated battles.

I am wholly in support of open world gameplay but that I doubt will be the crux of what Legion operates on for a very long time. There literally in my mind is no way to prevent lobby based process from occurring in Legion when you consider there are thousand of planets we could be individually operating on and exploring at any one time, with X number of districts.

I've not seen anyone say they have represent most of the playerbase. All I've seen is you thinking that you know everything, and that you're always right.

[...] And nobody, not even CCP agrees with you. [...]

I have seen YOU do that.

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You presume to speak for EVERYONE, EVEN CCP; which is false representation.

Would you guys really want to spends hours roaming low sec and murdering people playing solo? Is that really all that people want out of Legion?

Go to any other site but this one and the eve forums and EVE Online is well known as one of the most boring MMOs out right now. Action is sooooooo freaking slow to come to the game at any one point in time.

Doing away with the contract system would be a horrible move (something CCP Shanghai is not averse to though I know that). Legion is in a great spot to provide 'quick action' where you can log in and get right into the game play. Valkyrie will be in a similar position too.

If you guys love the open world roaming aspect of eve so much, why do you play Dust at all? Why aren't you playing EVE?

Having open world game play will be huge for Legion, it is an absolute necessity imo. Having sandbox elements akin to sovereignty will also be an absolute necessity. While the contract system wouldn't be required, it will make Legion much more successful in general in bringing in new players and retaining people who just want to log in for a bit and play a couple matches.

I seriously can't believe you guys want the only form of action to be constantly going from planet to planet in low sec searching for a battle, which... just like eve, will rarely ever be a 'good fight'.

I enjoy eve for what it is, but when it takes hours to do anything in that game... it pretty much becomes the game you play when you're playing other games. I sincerely hope Legion doesn't end up that way.