I'd like to thank Hawkin for taking up the mantel of PFC. Hopefully it turns out well and fun for all involved. For those of you that don't understand PFC the fact is that CCP has failed to create a smooth transition from pubs to PC and PFC ended being a way to have a middle ground.

You don't need a district to do PC

and the number of corps that would claim to be able to hold one that couldn't would be crazy.

This is war, their must be risks associated with owning ANY district. If the stronger of us can refrain from taking everything there will be lots of districts for the weaker corps to fight over.

Conentrating on what needs to happen first? wow

Ive heard this before "its called Planetary conquest, so that means we must take all the land if we are able to because thats the name of the game.. right?"

Fuck1ng wrong... unless of course you want to continue promoting a stale dead game mode, if that is what you are looking for please by all means continue business as usual.

Big you arent going to agree with this because, well, you're dumb... but all of you no lifing neckbeards needs to really show some fuck1ng restraint in the future if you want to accomplish the following:

A. Promote new players, new corps, joining in on the fun.
B. Dont want blue donut isk farming boredom bullshit where only a tiny percentage of the playerbase are "#winning"

Yes I just said you, the players, need to show some fuck1ng restraint. Mind boggling, I know.. but CCP made the game this way. Its up to you to make it enjoyable and "fair" to keep the lessers interested.

Good luck.

Yes you really do, need a district to play in PC otherwise you have to spend a large amount of ISK, just to get some practice for your corp. To newer corps 36 mil is alot of ISK. With only tax as your income it takes awhile to make that.


You are forgetting the 1 requirement you need to get a district. You need to consistently be able to field a whole team of your own players. I can't think of 24 corps that can do that.



There are risks associated with war you take districts you can lose districts. Telling the larger corps not to take all of the smaller corps land is pretty much the same thing I am saying, I'm just spelling it out in Black & White which district shouldn't be taken. So the smaller corps can still train and practice PC without having to pay 36mil for a easily beatable 120 clone pack.

Trust me, I more then most know about the costs of clone packs, we have purchased A LOT and never had the ISK from farming to pay for them. This is why i'm a firm supporter of them being decreased in price. I personally prefer 10mil. I do actually believe CCP will get around to tweaking this number at some point, hopefully soon. I'm sure they'll even call it a BIG change. Sigh.

Your approaching it from the wrong angle. Districts need to be fought over. Without loss their is no real PC. It's to hard and stupid to try to enforce rules upon who can do what where on a district by district basis. Now an agreement amoung a few stronger corps where they say that anyone with more then x districts is their enemy is another thing.

CCP didn't add a way for people to grow as a corp together easily. PFC is a community solution to that.

There's no way any new PFC will be regulated or policed, though.

If 80% of MH weren't still going to be controlled by top tier corps I'd agree, but MH hasn't changed from DNS's passing. It's only become more disorganized.

PFC will still be needed.

I think if AE honours their commitments and gives up the majority of their districts (hopefully NS joins in with some of theirs too) then it will provide much more of a playground then you might anticipate.

Yup, Bulitt must've drank some of Kain's ginger dum juice.

Please know that if it wasn't for the following, we would not have had any attempt of recreating a PC environment.

bigolenuts (had been trying to convince AE in months passed to get out of the donut and rallied together what was left of AE after boot from DNS)
Zatara (for providing crucial intel to RA and backstabbing ERA)
nyain san (for fighting those 6am battles no one wants to)

Bigolenuts has been campaigning on the forums in the past 2 months to try to find ways to bring the little guy back into PC and has had FA and OHs support in the idea.
What he's been trying to explain is that you cannot build on something for the PC community as long as there a$$hats like DNS left around ready to create further imbalance. Yes, it will take some time to give these districts out, handing them out now gives Kain and his ERA guys too much room to remain a presence.

Of what will be left of top contenders for PC, FA/OH/AE are not looking to stomp out the little guy, there's no reason for this action other then trying to practice up a B or C teams without district flips.

The few stronger corps out there are looking to create a mutual clause supporting new PC contenders, and you can bet your ass it will be put into place. So yes we are trying to use restraint as an asset for the peoples that actually have a new chance to partake in PC. There has not really been much of an attempt on getting together to build a 16-man team as PC competition has been too steep.


PFCs do not work for the little guy as they pretty much always have to call for ringers, this just creates chaos amongst PFC community. "OMG they had 6 top slayers from FA, fuc king cowards can't fight their own battles." yada yada QQ yada.
Whenever someone supports/backs another in PFC mayhem follows, as from last experiences. It's near impossible to regulate a PFC.


So really, you should be thanking Bigolenuts for his legit effort that will actually help the community.

More then likely the top tier corps will take AE's land and just replace them.

and NS says they want 35% of MH and they'll stop... lol...

Lol, ya Nyain san is going to be that black sheep. They say they will try to give back what they take and who know's maybe they will. It's those damn timers we've always have trouble with. Regardless, if Nyain gets out of hand, surely there will be effort made against them.

For now, PRAISE THE SUN NS is fighting those 12:00 EVE timers. LOL

They've allied, again, with most of the top remaining corps.

Who will do something about NS?

Quit bitching I've explained this elsewhere.

Care to link or quit crying that people don't care to read everything you post?

Yup, Bulitt must've drank some of Kain's ginger dum juice.

Please know that if it wasn't for the following, we would not have had any attempt of recreating a PC environment.

bigolenuts (had been trying to convince AE in months passed to get out of the donut and rallied together what was left of AE after boot from DNS)
Zatara (for providing crucial intel to RA and backstabbing ERA)
nyain san (for fighting those 6am battles no one wants to)

Bigolenuts has been campaigning on the forums in the past 2 months to try to find ways to bring the little guy back into PC and has had FA and OHs support in the idea.
What he's been trying to explain is that you cannot build on something for the PC community as long as there a$$hats like DNS left around ready to create further imbalance. Yes, it will take some time to give these districts out, handing them out now gives Kain and his ERA guys too much room to remain a presence.

Of what will be left of top contenders for PC, FA/OH/AE are not looking to stomp out the little guy, there's no reason for this action other then trying to practice up a B or C teams without district flips.

The few stronger corps out there are looking to create a mutual clause supporting new PC contenders, and you can bet your ass it will be put into place. So yes we are trying to use restraint as an asset for the peoples that actually have a new chance to partake in PC. There has not really been much of an attempt for PC newbies on getting together to build a 16-man team as PC competition has been too steep.


PFCs do not work for the little guy as they pretty much always have to call for ringers, this just creates chaos amongst PFC community. "OMG they had 6 top slayers from FA, fuc king cowards can't fight their own battles." yada yada QQ yada.
Whenever someone supports/backs another in PFC mayhem follows, as from last experiences. It's near impossible to regulate a PFC.


So really, you should be thanking Bigolenuts for his legit effort that will actually help the community.

You aren't most people.

Sigh.. ya'll are like a year too late for all this "lets fix the way WE THE PLAYERS handle our actions here in PC land"

Good ideas.. but yeah, where were you all when I was trying to shoot down the EoN donut and how shite that mentality would be for the game mode way back Wednesday.

Actually, I could probably pull up some old posts showing some of you same dolts calling me a QQ noob when I was campaigning for change... now you all are on board with it? roflcopters



Too little, too late. but good luck I guess.

I dont get the reference

Sigh.. ya'll are like a year too late for all this "lets fix the way WE THE PLAYERS handle our actions here in PC land"

Good ideas.. but yeah, where were you all when I was trying to shoot down the EoN donut and how shite that mentality would be for the game mode way back Wednesday.

Actually, I could probably pull up some old posts showing some of you same dolts calling me a QQ noob when I was campaigning for change... now you all are on board with it? roflcopters



Too little, too late. but good luck I guess.

Dont get that either...