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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:04:00 -
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I'm personally against PFC as it has never been proven to work. When the districts are given away, IDGAF what they do with it though.
PFC is a waste of time for anyone that even types the acronym PFC, corps just farm it for ISK(yes I know, passive is leaving so they say), corps feel entitles to protection and more I could go on about. All it does is feed this room more content to whine about as well. I hope Brutal/Hawk and whoever else is working this idea in their head have a 2nd thought.
With that being said, let it be known I do not represent AE or any of my friends. There are plenty in AE who love the idea of PFC. With the way the mechanics are set up now in PFC, it can't work.
Corp A fights Corp B and all it takes is for a couple of ringers to come in and then there you have it. FA/OH/NS are getting paid AGAIN to fight on PFC for smaller corps. Don't do it guys. Give these districts up and throw all the corps to the wolves. What you must have is an agreement from the big corps (AE/FA/NS/ERA) that they won't attack these smaller corps to flip their districts.
This game has a year or so in it left. If you want to continue the path it has been on, start PFC up and you will see it happen.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:15:00 -
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Hey, I have 1k likes now....
Yes, I agree...just regulate within the community. It has been proven that the community can do great things when it pulls together.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:29:00 -
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Brutal BRUTAS wrote:Hawkin P wrote:So I am looking to rebuild PFC. I believe every corp. that can field a team deserves to get their own district. To practice PC. because CCP in their own (lack of) wisdom forgot to put in a way into the game to practice PC. Without PFC we can't expect new players/corps to ever be able to compete in PC. So I am looking to make a simpler PFC without fees. Rules will be simple. Starting with.
- Your corp must be able to field a whole team to field a whole team (16 players) to qualify.
- You can't take someones district permanently, if you take someones district, you have approx. 48 hours to return it to them, or you forfeit your right to a PFC district.
- Instead of paying into PFC. If someone not on PFC takes your district, and you need help getting it back, you need to keep you own nest egg to hire mercs to get it back. PFC community will help you if you deserve help.
- You must be actively using your district. Or I will just be that annoying prick that keeps attacking you, to stomp you.
- No Locking.
I am not looking to fill the planet with corps but I am looking to give every corp that wants a district and has to the people to train on one a district. This is just a rough draft. More to come I just want corps to know they will be able to play that biggest part of the game again. Corps already with a district:KEQ Hellstorm Sam-Mik Quebec United (Coming Soon) Dystopia Abandoned Privilege Subsonic Synthesis More info to come. If this interests you post here. Especially if you have ideas to make PFC better than it was.
Thanks to everyone that helped make this possible again. when escrow is gone we will all meet up and discuss. nyain wants everyone to pc.
that would be best Brutas.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:57:00 -
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-1000 this is a bad idea
WE already have people stepping up as if they are in charge....you guys should wait until the dust has settled before you start all this BS.
You are obviously not concentrating on what needs to be concentrated on.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:10:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Conentrating on what needs to happen first? wow Ive heard this before "its called Planetary conquest, so that means we must take all the land if we are able to because thats the name of the game.. right?" Fuck1ng wrong... unless of course you want to continue promoting a stale dead game mode, if that is what you are looking for please by all means continue business as usual.  Big you arent going to agree with this because, well, you're dumb... but all of you no lifing neckbeards needs to really show some fuck1ng restraint in the future if you want to accomplish the following: A. Promote new players, new corps, joining in on the fun. B. Dont want blue donut isk farming boredom bullshit where only a tiny percentage of the playerbase are "#winning" Yes I just said you, the players, need to show some fuck1ng restraint. Mind boggling, I know.. but CCP made the game this way. Its up to you to make it enjoyable and "fair" to keep the lessers interested. Good luck.
no, you're wrong about it all except about players showing constraint.
If you can get them to do, then there is no need for PFC. it's just opening doors for trouble is all it is.
Oh, no neckbeard here. I actually sleep and take a shower every Saturday, even if I don't need one.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:13:00 -
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and to add bullit, you can even speak with your own leadership. At no time I have said I didn't want the entire community involved. As a matter of fact I have said everyone should be involved with PFC. I think it can happen if like you said, we have player constraint.
It can be done without a spokesperson, a leader or someone with their hands always in the cookie jar.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 19:54:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Yup, Bulitt must've drank some of Kain's ginger dum juice.
Please know that if it wasn't for the following, we would not have had any attempt of recreating a PC environment.
bigolenuts (had been trying to convince AE in months passed to get out of the donut and rallied together what was left of AE after boot from DNS)
Zatara (for providing crucial intel to RA and backstabbing ERA)
nyain san (for fighting those 6am battles no one wants to)
Bigolenuts has been campaigning on the forums in the past 2 months to try to find ways to bring the little guy back into PC and has had FA and OHs support in the idea.
What he's been trying to explain is that you cannot build on something for the PC community as long as there a$$hats like DNS left around ready to create further imbalance. Yes, it will take some time to give these districts out, handing them out now gives Kain and his ERA guys too much room to remain a presence.
Of what will be left of top contenders for PC, FA/OH/AE are not looking to stomp out the little guy, there's no reason for this action other then trying to practice up a B or C teams without district flips.
The few stronger corps out there are looking to create a mutual clause supporting new PC contenders, and you can bet your ass it will be put into place. So yes we are trying to use restraint as an asset for the peoples that actually have a new chance to partake in PC. There has not really been much of an attempt for PC newbies on getting together to build a 16-man team as PC competition has been too steep.
PFCs do not work for the little guy as they pretty much always have to call for ringers, this just creates chaos amongst PFC community. "OMG they had 6 top slayers from FA, fuc king cowards can't fight their own battles." yada yada QQ yada.
Whenever someone supports/backs another in PFC mayhem follows, as from last experiences. It's near impossible to regulate a PFC.
So really, you should be thanking Bigolenuts for his legit effort that will actually help the community.
Thanks for noticing whataguy....I'll send the 100 million ISK when I log back on LOL
None of this matters if the big corps keep picking on the little ones. It will be all for naught.
Unless OH/FA/NS/ERA and others keep their greed to a minimum, your small corps won't ever stand a chance then you will be back to the bat phone days.
I just want to see small guys get on here and talk ish to each other. Would love to see Latino Killers versus GIANT forum war LOL that's just me though.
All of us vets have done more PC's than remain in this game. Lets continue to pub stomp, q synch FW and send clone packs at each other and then come back here and talk ish when one of us beats someone with a clone pack.
We all have plenty of ISK it seems, unless there is something Kane is not telling us due the NDA. I don't think Kane would use knowledge he has being on the CPM to his advantage, do you? 
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