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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:27:00 -
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1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1459
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:29:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol.
I'd better leave...
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1102
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:30:00 -
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Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. |
Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
2956
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:34:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console.
I for one won't allow anything close to Dust on my PC. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcW7Ii_BKo
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uruz7 fish
FDF Industries
110
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:39:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
doesn't really matter too much, a keyboard is a keyboard, mouse dpi will help some, but in grand scheme of things meh
Quote:2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
i'm running a old dell 755 with amd proc that is a couple gen's old, 3 year old video card. I can play warframe, eve, dayz, rust, kerbal, etc. Some games I have to tweak visuals down, others not. Depends on the game.
Quote:3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
I also have a laptop (that outdoes my desktop) very easy to pick up and bring to a friends to play some AoE or whatever on. Don't have to deal with split screen at all.
Aside from playing the occasional exclusive, my ps3 is nothing more than a netflix machine. One of my ds3's is permanently hooked up to the pc for playing skyrim.
If you want to argue one is better than the other, basically say everyone has a preference, but don't spout facts that are incorrect. |
THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:52:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console.
I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus.
SONY will even replace off warranty equipment.
The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post.
CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC.
Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL, |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2987
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:54:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I for one won't allow anything close to Dust on my PC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcW7Ii_BKo
Thats pretty damn sexy.
Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.
Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2824
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:56:00 -
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These are all just opinions... You are entitled to your opinions... but it doesn't make them right. |
Tau Lai
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:57:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
This.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2285
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:59:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus. SONY will even replace off warranty equipment. The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post. CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC. Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL,
You've gotten nearly everything wrong. I guess you know more about chess then PCs or game consoles. |
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Justice Darling
King Brothers
63
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:01:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs = quit being cheap fixed next!
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles = only if you want to, do it right first time and u don't have too!
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game = its called online profiles look it up! |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1371
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:04:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
This phenomenon is not exclusive to the PC, although it is quite a bit more pronounced.
Xander Mercy wrote:2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
You don't have to. If you have a gaming PC on par with the current-generation of consoles, you should be able to play almost any game reasonably effectively and with decent graphics, even if you don't upgrade frequently.
Xander Mercy wrote:3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
For those who enjoy co-op console games, you make a good point.
Xander Mercy wrote:4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
I honestly can't say whether this is true or not. I've never dropped my desktop PC, nor my PS3. I'd say this is mostly a non-issue unless you like towing your PC around for some reason. Laptops are generally pretty durable, though.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
389
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:04:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:These are all just opinions... You are entitled to your opinions... but it doesn't make them right.
i know thats y it says "i think" in the title
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1075
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:05:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
What? I beat the sh!t out of all my electronics; they just love physical & verbal abuse.
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14828
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:06:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
1. Console Tournament Controllers would like a word with you. They're about 140 usd a pop.
2. Once you invested into a computer full atx case the cost of upgrades if you are trying to remain relative and able to play the latest coming out at acceptable console level graphics half as frequent and half as expensive. To continue to out play console games you would then need to update just as much at just as much.
3. Nvidia shield would like a word with you; also PCs invented Lan parties.
4. I have a intel 286 in the garage, it runs a radio scanner program and dos still; however I am running out of floppy drives to do stuff with it. I also have a 368; a 486, and pentium 1, and pentium 4 operating around the house doing their own things i think my P4 is my current part tester machine. The P1 Darpa guidelines approved low level formats at low energy costs. These machines survived high heat, chills, water, light exposure, moisture, dust, multiple moves, one actually got zapped and is still operating. another blew out a capacitor and had it replaced. another one I operated on to upgrade onboard sub coproc memory to double it.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Guiltless D667
35
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:10:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
^This
PC arent as practical for social gatherings as consoles are,though Lan parties are pretty fun if you got those guys that would go that extra mile.
A Strange Game.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2286
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts 1. Console Tournament Controllers would like a word with you. They're about 140 usd a pop. 2. Once you invested into a computer full atx case the cost of upgrades if you are trying to remain relative and able to play the latest coming out at acceptable console level graphics half as frequent and half as expensive. To continue to out play console games you would then need to update just as much at just as much. 3. Nvidia shield would like a word with you; also PCs invented Lan parties. 4. I have a intel 286 in the garage, it runs a radio scanner program and dos still; however I am running out of floppy drives to do stuff with it. I also have a 368; a 486, and pentium 1, and pentium 4 operating around the house doing their own things i think my P4 is my current part tester machine. The P1 Darpa guidelines approved low level formats at low energy costs. These machines survived high heat, chills, water, light exposure, moisture, dust, multiple moves, one actually got zapped and is still operating. another blew out a capacitor and had it replaced. another one I operated on to upgrade onboard sub coproc memory to double it.
I've got an old amiga 3000 that's still fully functional, does that count as a PC these days?
Also of the 3 PS3's in my group of friends, two have had to be replaced.
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Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
114
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:19:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
A better rig will give people more eye candy, but competition is about framerate, sometimes resolution and field of view, a person with a "smaller" rig can just reduce detail to up framerate.
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M1A1 Blaster Master
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
8
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:20:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:
I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console.
So you think the PS3 is "non-hackable"? Quick question, have you been living under a rock for the last 8 years?
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2532
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:23:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol.
You, your mother, I, abs the whole entire world knows that's a lie. The one your getting MIGHT get you through a year or two, but technology advances and so do PCs. You WILL need to upgrade sooner or later. |
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2173
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:31:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
1: That's the point of the system. It's not hard to buy and build a $1500 rig, it just takes a little more work, (I got mine within a week with leftover money for games, and that wasn't even out of my regular income).
2: I've had my PC for 3/2 years, and it is still stronger than the PS4......
I call bullshit.
3: It's called a mini rig with a split screen game. Wait, who would seriously like to play split screen? it was lame back then, and it's still lame now.
4: if you have it at a place where it won't fall, then maybe it won't get damaged?
All I see is ****** excuses tbh.
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1460
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:32:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol. You, your mother, I, abs the whole entire world knows that's a lie. The one your getting MIGHT get you through a year or two, but technology advances and so do PCs. You WILL need to upgrade sooner or later.
A new gaming laptop
Can play latest games EASILY
My brother has almost the same one
I'd better leave...
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1772
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:39:00 -
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It is almost like they are totally separate things that have different markets and targets.
They totally are. Consoles have always been "plug and play" and never having to worry about being able to run a game. PC allows greater customization generally. You see that with posts on the WOW forums about using the racing wheel in PvP and stuff. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:06:00 -
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well the plus side of PC is the community has more diversity and holds games to a higher standard, console players wanna try to turn everything into a COD clone.. they actually consider modern warfare 2 to be retro gaming. |
PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:14:00 -
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Why are you having an argument about this on a forum where every participant has a ps3? If you can't see that common ground is the only point of you can start from. Dust514 is not a PC game your on a console game/forum. Legion is not a console game. None of this is about which is better or worse or how to build one or which cost more.
The one thing we all have in common is ps3 if you want to talk about dust or it's future stay here. If you want to build a computer and name price quotes take it to the other forum along with Legion.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1104
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:20:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus. SONY will even replace off warranty equipment. The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post. CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC. Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL,
I don't know if you were referring to me as a "pcmasterbaters" or "arrogant" or "oblivious" -- but I play both console and PC games avidly.
I prefer PC.
You can now call me names if that floats your boat, but please don't box me into your generalized misconceptions about PC gamers.
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:22:00 -
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:Why are you having an argument about this on a forum where every participant has a ps3? If you can't see that common ground is the only point of you can start from. Dust514 is not a PC game your on a console game/forum. Legion is not a console game. None of this is about which is better or worse or how to build one or which cost more.
The one thing we all have in common is ps3 if you want to talk about dust or it's future stay here. If you want to build a computer and name price quotes take it to the other forum along with Legion.
i thought this forum was mainly for necro posting and spam, hope i didnt break any rules |
The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:25:00 -
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Guiltless D667 wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
^This PC arent as practical for social gatherings as consoles are,though Lan parties are pretty fun if you got those guys that would go that extra mile.
Virtual LAN parties have been doable for years with Hamachi. Its a great alternative for us who used to LAN every weekend back in the day but dont feel like dragging our PC's around anymore.
Hitler decides to CANCEL DUST 514 on PS3???
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts 1. Console Tournament Controllers would like a word with you. They're about 140 usd a pop. 2. Once you invested into a computer full atx case the cost of upgrades if you are trying to remain relative and able to play the latest coming out at acceptable console level graphics half as frequent and half as expensive. To continue to out play console games you would then need to update just as much at just as much. 3. Nvidia shield would like a word with you; also PCs invented Lan parties. 4. I have a intel 286 in the garage, it runs a radio scanner program and dos still; however I am running out of floppy drives to do stuff with it. I also have a 368; a 486, and pentium 1, and pentium 4 operating around the house doing their own things i think my P4 is my current part tester machine. The P1 Darpa guidelines approved low level formats at low energy costs. These machines survived high heat, chills, water, light exposure, moisture, dust, multiple moves, one actually got zapped and is still operating. another blew out a capacitor and had it replaced. another one I operated on to upgrade onboard sub coproc memory to double it.
Hey look it is the CPM that likes to report people, the one who is pretty much always provably wrong. Let us begin
1. That is not a counter-point. You can spend 140 USD to have a controller with programmable turbo and maybe a few functions (that fail more often than they work) or you can buy a PC rig that will not have any framterate issues, along with bots that are about a million time ssmarter than a controller. That is not even close to comparible. Next.
2. GPUs cot as much as consoles typically, The 9800 GT has trouble with some games that the PS3 plays, and that is 3 generations newer than the PS3. While a 7870 has about the same specs, it will not be able to keep up with a PS4, as history has shown us again and again. Next.
3. NVidia shield is not-upgradable, and it is android. Next.
4. PCs ARE less portable, and ARE NOT as sturdy, are you really trying to say otherwise? I have a colecovision that works just fine. It has gone through 3 generations of KIDS and is still fine.
Also, this entire post is just another good example of why you should be ejected from REPRESENTING CONSOLE GAMERS ON A CONSOLE GAME. You are a PCmasteracist.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:28:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Joel II X wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol. You, your mother, I, abs the whole entire world knows that's a lie. The one your getting MIGHT get you through a year or two, but technology advances and so do PCs. You WILL need to upgrade sooner or later. A new gaming laptop Can play latest games EASILY My brother has almost the same one
Can I bother you for the make/model?
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:29:00 -
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:Why are you having an argument about this on a forum where every participant has a ps3? If you can't see that common ground is the only point of you can start from. Dust514 is not a PC game your on a console game/forum. Legion is not a console game. None of this is about which is better or worse or how to build one or which cost more.
The one thing we all have in common is ps3 if you want to talk about dust or it's future stay here. If you want to build a computer and name price quotes take it to the other forum along with Legion. i thought this forum was mainly for necro posting and spam, hope i didnt break any rules
The beauty of the necro thread is I only have to go back a week and make the pungent smell of CCP bullshi t so clear. Is that really a necro? Topics from a week/month/even 6 months aren't relevant?
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1304
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:31:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
problem with PC is that the prices differ from country to country some people say that you can build a cheap gaming pc for about $450-$500, convert that to the currency where i am and you're looking at about R4500-R5000 and with that amount of money you can't even buy a decent gaming pc, thats just enough for a office pc.
and depending on the system requirements for Legion, the price for a PC might just go up.
a decent gaming pc for us here in south africa will cost about R8000-R10 000 which is equivalent to $800-$1000.
now if i had to buy a decent gaming PC just to play Legion if its system requirements are high i might as well just buy a ps4 which is much cheaper (about R6000 = $600)
i CAN afford a gaming PC but i WONT spend such a high amount of cash just to play 1 game and surf the web when most games these days are coming to the console anyways. maybe for those who live somewhere else and pc's are cheaper then good for you.
my brothers and sisters i salute you O7
and CCP? sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
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Mary Lilac wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Joel II X wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol. You, your mother, I, abs the whole entire world knows that's a lie. The one your getting MIGHT get you through a year or two, but technology advances and so do PCs. You WILL need to upgrade sooner or later. A new gaming laptop Can play latest games EASILY My brother has almost the same one Can I bother you for the make/model?
Lol its expensive but it REALLY good, like easily run online games at max settings.
I'd better leave...
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2175
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:13:00 -
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I guess my logic was too great to counter?
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:17:00 -
[35] - Quote
Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
1. Like turbo controllers dont exist.
2. No you dont, but at least when I do, I dont have to throw out the whole machine, and I can still play my old games.
3. Sure you can. LAN
4. LOL no.
Do you have a minute to hear about our Lord and Savior Gaben?
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2305
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:19:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts problem with PC is that the prices differ from country to country some people say that you can build a cheap gaming pc for about $450-$500, convert that to the currency where i am and you're looking at about R4500-R5000 and with that amount of money you can't even buy a decent gaming pc, thats just enough for a office pc. and depending on the system requirements for Legion, the price for a PC might just go up. a decent gaming pc for us here in south africa will cost about R8000-R10 000 which is equivalent to $800-$1000. now if i had to buy a decent gaming PC just to play Legion if its system requirements are high i might as well just buy a ps4 which is much cheaper (about R6000 = $600) i CAN afford a gaming PC but i WONT spend such a high amount of cash just to play 1 game and surf the web when most games these days are coming to the console anyways. maybe for those who live somewhere else and pc's are cheaper then good for you.
This is not unique to PCs:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/10/22/sony-explains-the-1800-usd-price-of-the-ps4-in-brazil/ |
Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
508
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:Why are you having an argument about this on a forum where every participant has a ps3? If you can't see that common ground is the only point of you can start from. Dust514 is not a PC game your on a console game/forum. Legion is not a console game. None of this is about which is better or worse or how to build one or which cost more.
The one thing we all have in common is ps3 if you want to talk about dust or it's future stay here. If you want to build a computer and name price quotes take it to the other forum along with Legion.
I admit it ooks like the thread went rampant with PC vs PS3 arguments, but it stems from the desire of players here who want to show that there are advantages to moving the concept of DUST to a different development environment, and that the hardware is not a roadblock.
I downsized to a $400 laptop from a tower a couple of years ago to accommodate my lifestyle and it still has the capacity to game. I spent the same amount on a PS3 to play a select few titles, but primarily as a Blu-ray player. I don't think it was a bad investment at the time, and I know that both will have an end to their life cycle.
This thread (and the forum) is filled with passionate people who just want their stories to be heard, and that's ok.
Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
The Space Hippie
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Stupidsexy Flanders
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game The one im getting will never have to be upgraded lol. You, your mother, I, abs the whole entire world knows that's a lie. The one your getting MIGHT get you through a year or two, but technology advances and so do PCs. You WILL need to upgrade sooner or later.
Do it right and you don't need to upgrade all that often. Mine is going on 4 years and nothing has come close to slowing it down yet. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14844
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:43:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:
Hey look it is the CPM that likes to report people, the one who is pretty much always provably wrong. Let us begin
1. That is not a counter-point. You can spend 140 USD to have a controller with programmable turbo and maybe a few functions (that fail more often than they work) or you can buy a PC rig that will not have any framterate issues, along with bots that are about a million time ssmarter than a controller. That is not even close to comparible. Next.
2. GPUs cot as much as consoles typically, The 9800 GT has trouble with some games that the PS3 plays, and that is 3 generations newer than the PS3. While a 7870 has about the same specs, it will not be able to keep up with a PS4, as history has shown us again and again. Next.
3. NVidia shield is not-upgradable, and it is android. Next.
4. PCs ARE less portable, and ARE NOT as sturdy, are you really trying to say otherwise? I have a colecovision that works just fine. It has gone through 3 generations of KIDS and is still fine.
Also, this entire post is just another good example of why you should be ejected from REPRESENTING CONSOLE GAMERS ON A CONSOLE GAME. You are a PCmasteracist.
1. A PS3 player with an older model PS3 upgraded the HDD to a SSD with excessively fast data rates. This hard drive can run up to 100-400 usd depending on the vendor specs and size. This player experiences a massive relative boosts to loading speeds and gets on average 5-15 seconds field time over more modern models (which has a data governor of sorts purposely to try to keep it fair) or those who cannot be bothered to sink that much more money on that system.
2. Page 1 Results.
9800 GTX 34.00
400 gt for 54.99
610 gt for 59.99
Shop better...
3. Neither was the ps4; ps3, ps2, ps1, ps1/snes, snes, nes.
4. http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/fragbox
Salt on wound factor
http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.html
this is not even the oldest one I know of; model I worked once only had a printer output while it was in portable mode.
When you fix lots of computers you run into alot of weird things. Like one of these... http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/misc/5170_memory_board_512K.jpg took me forever to solder all of the chips off one of these before.
Also NES original babysat me quite a bit. I find it sad you guys managed to grow up in an age of hyper speed internets and are not able to utilize all of its information to better use.
You know what is awesome about having family members and upgrading computers? doing hand me downs. My computer is still in my family though in all separate parts. The parts that comprised the first computer I built by myself was sold to an old couple who only needed it for emails.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
386
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:54:00 -
[40] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
Hey look it is the CPM that likes to report people, the one who is pretty much always provably wrong. Let us begin
1. That is not a counter-point. You can spend 140 USD to have a controller with programmable turbo and maybe a few functions (that fail more often than they work) or you can buy a PC rig that will not have any framterate issues, along with bots that are about a million time ssmarter than a controller. That is not even close to comparible. Next.
2. GPUs cot as much as consoles typically, The 9800 GT has trouble with some games that the PS3 plays, and that is 3 generations newer than the PS3. While a 7870 has about the same specs, it will not be able to keep up with a PS4, as history has shown us again and again. Next.
3. NVidia shield is not-upgradable, and it is android. Next.
4. PCs ARE less portable, and ARE NOT as sturdy, are you really trying to say otherwise? I have a colecovision that works just fine. It has gone through 3 generations of KIDS and is still fine.
Also, this entire post is just another good example of why you should be ejected from REPRESENTING CONSOLE GAMERS ON A CONSOLE GAME. You are a PCmasteracist.
Or maybe you need to understand my history a bit more. 1. A PS3 player with an older model PS3 upgraded the HDD to a SSD with excessively fast data rates. This hard drive can run up to 100-400 usd depending on the vendor specs and size. This player experiences a massive relative boosts to loading speeds and gets on average 5-15 seconds field time over more modern models (which has a data governor of sorts purposely to try to keep it fair) or those who cannot be bothered to sink that much more money on that system and I too consider it unfair but getting Sony to put in a software limiter for the older models is rather stupid fight. 2. Page 1 Results. 9800 GTX 34.00 400 gt for 54.99 610 gt for 59.99 Shop better... 3. Neither was the ps4; ps3, ps2, ps1, ps1/snes, snes, nes. 4. http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/fragboxSalt on wound factor http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.htmlthis is not even the oldest one I know of; model I worked once only had a printer output while it was in portable mode. Also most of those computers back there where highly upgradeable provided you had the right parts but those build in the standard 286 where generally not a problem. Most common request back then was replacing the 5 1/4 with the 3 1/2 drives. When you fix lots of computers you run into alot of weird things. Like one of these... http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/misc/5170_memory_board_512K.jpg took me forever to solder all of the chips off one of these before. Also NES original babysat me quite a bit. I find it sad you guys managed to grow up in an age of hyper speed internets and are not able to utilize all of its information to better use. You know what is awesome about having family members and upgrading computers? doing hand me downs. My computer is still in my family though in all separate parts. The parts that comprised the first computer I built by myself was sold to an old couple who only needed it for emails.
Lol, you have to be a teenager, no way an adult makes that post.
1) PS3 has a SATA 1 connector, this means that it is capped at around the transfer speeds of a modern 7200 RPM drive. There have been numerous TEST done by reliable sources, SSDs might sometimes provide a bit of a boost when loading, maybe. Depends on the game and the operation being performed by that game. There is no such thing as a 15 second difference in anything but installs. You are indeed limited to Sata 1 speeds on a PS#, any PS3.
2) How much was the 9800 GT when released? How much was the PS3 when the 9800 GT released... you see the point right? PS3 was 2 years old by the time the 9800 GT, at $300, finally ended up with graphics parity. The PS3 has a 7900 GS (basically) inside. The fact that you completely missed out on this point just shows how incredibly, unbelievably, atrociously thick headed you actually are.
3)Then why did you bring up the Nvidia shield?
4) Or you could have just linked to laptops, doesn';t change the fact that PCs as a whole are less portable, and less reliable on a WHOLE than consoles are.
Also, I think it is cute when you talk about upgradability. As soon as CPU sockets change over, well there goes your whole upgradability because you will be buying a new MB/CPU/RAM at the very least, you SHOULD be buying a new PSU as well. Yep, every 2-3 years sockets completely change, every 4-5 years Ram standards change, every 10 or so years EVERYTHING changes. PCs are not eternally upgradable.
Also, if you were older than a teen, you would realize having ANYONE know you can fix a computer is just a HUGE pain in the butt, that is of course unless you like being IT (for free no less) to everyone and their mom. People don't value technological knowledge like they do mechanical, and if you worked in a STEM field you would know this.
beyond any of this drivel..... aren't you supposed to be REPRESENTING PS3 OWNERS ON THEIR CONSOLE GAME???? Of course not, why would I think a teenager knew the first thing about responsibility.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14880
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Posted - 2014.05.11 15:20:00 -
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1. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-can-ssd-upgrades-boost-ps3-performance diagnostic tools, check; articulated details, check; technical reasoning and though process as to why, check
2. Doesnt matter 9800gt is 50$ or less these days. A card that runs just about any current game coming out at console level graphics is about as much still; just pick the right vendor and chipset and have a good enough board to support it. Video Cards have the highest attrition rates and their starting prices bottom out amazingly fast. This can be blamed on production methods (they don't have to build a new factory for every new card unlike oh say a TV or console would) PS3 at launch was 500$ today an ultra slim runs you 200-300$
3. Consoles are not designed to be that portable though; a quick example is that if your ps3/xbox/wii been living its entire life as a horizontal; and you put it in a vertical you can easily kill it and we're not just talking about the optic drive. Also none of these things have handles or places to wrap up cords and the external on many of the models is the largest factor of non portability there is.
4. Odd consoles goes through the same issues. New Models even in the same year. Problem there? you have to buy a whole new console to upgrade and at that point you don't get any really increased performance. Maybe higher reliability and lighter weight or larger screen size. Since we're talking about PS3
CECH B
CECH A Had flash card readers and wifi
CHEH C / E 4 USB Ports; PS2 Emulators, SACD palyback, Linux Support, End of Gen 1
CHEH G / H / J / K / L / M / P / Q Reduction to 2 USB ports, End of Gen 2, End of Fatmans
CHEH 20/21/25/30 A / B First fo the slims featuring Bravia sync xmb control, doubly truehd and dts- hd master audio bistreaming. Generation 3 died in this run and Gen 4 Started.
CHEH 40 A/B/C has a smaller foot print and is Generation 5.
Problem here? There is no way you can get a CHEC gen 1 to have any of the features of Gen 5.
So if you were an upgrade console fanatic (they exist its how I get free consoles) you just blew about 2.5k keeping up in pace of consoles.
As for upgrading computers; back of my hand; eyes stabbed out blind, certified Testout Computer Tech. My previous job fixing F-18s electrical systems in similar conditions.
Aren't you supposed to be complaining about issues with dust 514 instead of the hardware its on?
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Scheherazade VII
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
482
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Posted - 2014.05.11 15:50:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:
1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs.
turn the graphics settings down, the only advantage in online gaming is your internet, your ping to the server relative to the person you're shooting at's ping.
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
I have had my PS3 for only a year longer than my PC, my PC will be able to play watch dogs, spend enough money
and you can future-proof a machine for perhaps 5 years.
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
that died in the early 00s dude, you missed the 90s of N64 couch-co-op? it's OVER. But I did plug into 2 DS3 controllers into my PC to play Rayman Origins with a friend.
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
Pcs are fragile? where is your PC? Mine is on the floor and has suffered no damage. Who drops their ps3
on the floor "a ton of times"?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2867
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:31:00 -
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M1A1 Blaster Master wrote:THE 2000 SWINE wrote:
I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console.
So you think the PS3 is "non-hackable"? Quick question, have you been living under a rock for the last 8 years?
It is not, in context. You can not play online if you hacked in any way your ps3.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2014.05.12 00:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:3. Consoles are not designed to be that portable though; a quick example is that if your ps3/xbox/wii been living its entire life as a horizontal; and you put it in a vertical you can easily kill it and we're not just talking about the optic drive.
wait, what? got a source for this ridicolous statement?
Hitler decides to CANCEL DUST 514 on PS3???
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Spike Slania
Horizons' Edge
76
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Posted - 2014.05.12 00:33:00 -
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I'm starting to see more and more why people are questioning why IWS is representing us. This really showed it off if he's here talking like a pc elitist down on ps3 when that's what most of the Dust community prefer to run on. And changing of the position of the console never killed it, maybe possibly one of the early model 360s, but that's a whole other story behind the Red Ring of Death. Never heard of a ps3 croaking due to that let alone a Wii. Nintendo takes testing their systems to the extreme, like throwing it over a house, running it over with a vehicle. Nintendo might not get third party, but that understand durability.
I can't wait to see you again and again
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
109
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Posted - 2014.05.12 00:40:00 -
[46] - Quote
Tau Lai wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs This.
is false. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
644
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Posted - 2014.05.12 00:50:00 -
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Here is what i think is the truth about what makes many PC games very over-rated. Hacks and or exploits it gets annoying very fast and takes a lot of fun out of the game. Unless CCP really has it nailed on how to prevent people from aimboting or doing wall clip exploits and such its going to suck. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
335
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Posted - 2014.05.12 00:51:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
Anyone who knows how to build, maintain, and understand the parts of a computer can prevent most of this.
You can bring your pc to your friends house. If your pc is built efficiently it should be around the same size of a console.
A good case will save hardware if dropped. Real good cases can go for about $80-$100.
I RARELY have to upgrade my computer. Oh no. my processor is a few years old time to overclock it. If I haven't already. Then there is nothing to worry about.
I do not know love, only ( -í° -£-û -í°).
Closed Beta Vet
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3343
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Posted - 2014.05.12 01:41:00 -
[49] - Quote
bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:well the plus side of PC is the community has more diversity and holds games to a higher standard, console players wanna try to turn everything into a COD clone.. they actually consider modern warfare 2 to be retro gaming.
That's just the teenyboppers.
Anyway...........PC>CONsole.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2199
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Posted - 2014.05.12 01:42:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts 1: That's the point of the system. It's not hard to buy and build a $1500 rig, it just takes a little more work, (I got mine within a week with leftover money for games, and that wasn't even out of my regular income). 2: I've had my PC for 3/2 years, and it is still stronger than the PS4...... I call bullshit. 3: It's called a mini rig with a split screen game. Wait, who would seriously like to play split screen? it was lame back then, and it's still lame now. 4: if you have it at a place where it won't fall, then maybe it won't get damaged? All I see is ****** excuses tbh.
I assume my points are too great to argue against?
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
645
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Posted - 2014.05.12 02:19:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts Anyone who knows how to build, maintain, and understand the parts of a computer can prevent most of this. You can bring your pc to your friends house. If your pc is built efficiently it should be around the same size of a console. A good case will save hardware if dropped. Real good cases can go for about $80-$100. I RARELY have to upgrade my computer. Oh no. my processor is a few years old time to overclock it. If I haven't already. Then there is nothing to worry about.
Honestly my gaming rig is 8 years old and it runs titanfal. Not at full amazing graphics but it runs just fine. I have a old nvidia 9800gtx video card windows 7x64 and i think the cpu is a amd athelon 2 with 3 cores (4th unlocked via bios) O and about 16 gigs of ram because more is always better :)
Typically as long as everything is fully bolted down a small drop won't do much harm.
The only components that migth get damaged from being dropped are the hard drive and the optical drives. They are the only things with moving parts that would be affected. The ram might pop out but it wouldnt be harmed unless its a really long drop.
The PS3 uses a hard drive as well and honestly seeing how its mounted i would think that it would be even more susceptible to being broken by being dropped. Same with the optical drive. Honestly i hate how the ps3 is built it was clearly built with looks over function in mind. |
Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
151
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I swear I've never known anyone over the age of 15 to use a console. It is a kiddie machine and has been since computer games took off around 1995. I only just bought one last year for my kids and as an aside got to play this game.
This game was going to be on a PC and it was a silly idea to have ever turned to the console for a company like CCP. I hated having to even consider having to get a console to play it. If I was going to get a PS3 for this game then I was going to wait until it took off.
Now we see that was never going to happen. It was a pretty predictable outcome too.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2014.05.12 03:00:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:I swear I've never known anyone over the age of 15 to use a console. It is a kiddie machine and has been since computer games took off around 1995. I only just bought one last year for my kids and as an aside got to play this game.
This game was going to be on a PC and it was a silly idea to have ever turned to the console for a company like CCP. I hated having to even consider having to get a console to play it. If I was going to get a PS3 for this game then I was going to wait until it took off.
Now we see that was never going to happen. It was a pretty predictable outcome too.
This is a simple truth which is hard to accept for many. Was hard to accept it for me anyway. But I do seek the truth.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: RND_Jungian
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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The Jungian wrote:Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:I swear I've never known anyone over the age of 15 to use a console. It is a kiddie machine and has been since computer games took off around 1995. I only just bought one last year for my kids and as an aside got to play this game.
This game was going to be on a PC and it was a silly idea to have ever turned to the console for a company like CCP. I hated having to even consider having to get a console to play it. If I was going to get a PS3 for this game then I was going to wait until it took off.
Now we see that was never going to happen. It was a pretty predictable outcome too. This is a simple truth which is hard to accept for many. Was hard to accept it for me anyway. But I do seek the truth.
I get it all (that doesn't suck ass, **** Xbox) so I can play it all. What, you don't like PS exclusives?
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Kinky Burrito
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
233
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Posted - 2014.05.12 03:30:00 -
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THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus. SONY will even replace off warranty equipment. The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post. CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC. Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL,
How are those Civilization games? Sim City 4? Total War: Shogun 2? Starcraft? LoL, Dota, TF2, Counterstrike? Oh wait, you can't play any of those incredible games. That's too bad. |
Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2203
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Posted - 2014.05.12 03:45:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus. SONY will even replace off warranty equipment. The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post. CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC. Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL, How are those Civilization games? Sim City 4? Total War: Shogun 2? Starcraft? LoL, Dota, TF2, Counterstrike? Oh wait, you can't play any of those incredible games. That's too bad.
You can't get all those PS4 exclusives on PC either. Again, buy it all and be a real gamer.
click me
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Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
316
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Posted - 2014.05.12 03:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts
point number 2 is invalid
I had my older rig for 6 years just now upgraded
point 3 is BS ever heard of a LAN party bro? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAN_party
point 4 is invalid because i mean WTF who drops their computer/PS3/Xbox... anything WHY WOULD YOU?
see you on other games
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
788
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Posted - 2014.05.12 04:03:00 -
[58] - Quote
Godin Thekiller wrote:
You can't get all those PS4 exclusives on PC either. Again, buy it all and be a real gamer.
Poor poor people. Locked out of that elite club of "real gamers" due to financial reasons.
And what about those who can't justify additional game expenditures due other, non-financial reasons? Yeah. They can't be in the "real gamer" club, either.
It really makes me proud to be among the few, the elite... the real gamers.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
419
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Posted - 2014.05.12 04:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
Godin Thekiller wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:1. the pc and accessories aren't standard gives an unfair advantage to those with better rigs
2. you have to upgrade much more frequently then consoles
3. you can't play with your friends in person only online which doesn't matter if your playing a single player game but still your not going to pack up your pc and go to a friends house like you can with a console, plus i enjoy a good 2-4 player co-op game
4. to fragile but this can be said for the xbox as well cause if your hit it while the game is running say good bye the that disk. i've drop my ps3 tons of times and it didn't even skip a beat now if a pc where to fall its all over time to to replace parts 1: That's the point of the system. It's not hard to buy and build a $1500 rig, it just takes a little more work, (I got mine within a week with leftover money for games, and that wasn't even out of my regular income). 2: I've had my PC for 3/2 years, and it is still stronger than the PS4...... I call bullshit. 3: It's called a mini rig with a split screen game. Wait, who would seriously like to play split screen? it was lame back then, and it's still lame now. 4: if you have it at a place where it won't fall, then maybe it won't get damaged? All I see is ****** excuses tbh. I assume my points are too great to argue against?
1. I assume you don't have any non-computer-nerd friends then. Building a PC is beyond 99.9% of the population.. at the very least.
2. Show me your 2-3 year old rig that is more powerful than the PS4.. please. I have a watercooled i7 920 @ 3.8 Ghz and a GTX 580 w/ 12 GBs of system ram, a 2-3 year old rig. I am positive a PS4 will end up surpassing what my rig is capable of graphics wise. I would love a laugh. Also, you SHOULD replace your PSU every 5 years no matter what. A PSU dying can easily kill your entire rig and that is not worth the chance. Every 2-3 years PC manufacturers switch CPU socket types, this means when you go to upgrade your CPU, you need a new motherboard and then the odds are pretty good you need new ram too.
3. Split screen is fun when you have friends. Hate to break it to you, but friends IRL >>>> friends on a headset.
4. This doesn't address that on average a console is more durable than a PC.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
419
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Posted - 2014.05.12 04:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-can-ssd-upgrades-boost-ps3-performance diagnostic tools, check; articulated details, check; technical reasoning and though process as to why, check 2. Doesnt matter 9800gt is 50$ or less these days. A card that runs just about any current game coming out at console level graphics is about as much still; just pick the right vendor and chipset and have a good enough board to support it. Video Cards have the highest attrition rates and their starting prices bottom out amazingly fast. This can be blamed on production methods (they don't have to build a new factory for every new card unlike oh say a TV or console would) PS3 at launch was 500$ today an ultra slim runs you 200-300$ 3. Consoles are not designed to be that portable though; a quick example is that if your ps3/xbox/wii been living its entire life as a horizontal; and you put it in a vertical you can easily kill it and we're not just talking about the optic drive. Also none of these things have handles or places to wrap up cords and the external on many of the models is the largest factor of non portability there is. 4. Odd consoles goes through the same issues. New Models even in the same year. Problem there? you have to buy a whole new console to upgrade and at that point you don't get any really increased performance. Maybe higher reliability and lighter weight or larger screen size. Since we're talking about PS3 CECH B CECH A Had flash card readers and wifi CHEH C / E 4 USB Ports; PS2 Emulators, SACD palyback, Linux Support, End of Gen 1 CHEH G / H / J / K / L / M / P / Q Reduction to 2 USB ports, End of Gen 2, End of Fatmans CHEH 20/21/25/30 A / B First fo the slims featuring Bravia sync xmb control, doubly truehd and dts- hd master audio bistreaming. Generation 3 died in this run and Gen 4 Started. CHEH 40 A/B/C has a smaller foot print and is Generation 5. Problem here? There is no way you can get a CHEC gen 1 to have any of the features of Gen 5. So if you were an upgrade console fanatic (they exist its how I get free consoles) you just blew about 2.5k keeping up in pace of consoles. As for upgrading computers; back of my hand; eyes stabbed out blind, certified Testout Computer Tech. My previous job fixing F-18s electrical systems in similar conditions. Aren't you supposed to be complaining about issues with dust 514 instead of the hardware its on?
You are just reaching now.. you are comparing having to update your computer to console hardware revisions. New flash genius, I can play all of the latest greatest PS3 games on my 2007 PS3 without MISSING ONE THING (always wait until first price drop... always).
Also, if you went from fixing f-18 electrical systems to upgrading computers, you are an idiot.
1) I know you have been unemployed for like the majority of the time You have been a member of the Dust community, this is no secret.
2) There is no possible way that a job that requires a security clearance would pay less than f-ing geek squad.
Also, you keep comparing the cost of a 9800 GT from today, which makes me really think you are just an idiot. In order to match the performance of a PS3 in 2008 (2 years after it came out) you had to spend 75% of the cost of the ENTIRE CONSOLE on a graphics card ONLY.
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
PS3 > a GPU. a PS3 by itself will play games, watch movies, surf the internet, stream/share local media, print, you know... a great deal of stuff (not anywhere near as much as a computer, but stil a ton of stuff). A GPU will do nothing without it's surrounding components, you really can't compare just a GPU versus an entire console.
On point 3. Yeah I am going to need a source on that on right there. Also, for a handle see the gamecube.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:49:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:
You are just reaching now.. you are comparing having to update your computer to console hardware revisions. New flash genius, I can play all of the latest greatest PS3 games on my 2007 PS3 without MISSING ONE THING (always wait until first price drop... always).
Also, if you went from fixing f-18 electrical systems to upgrading computers, you are an idiot.
1) I know you have been unemployed for like the majority of the time You have been a member of the Dust community, this is no secret.
2) There is no possible way that a job that requires a security clearance would pay less than f-ing geek squad.
Also, you keep comparing the cost of a 9800 GT from today, which makes me really think you are just an idiot. In order to match the performance of a PS3 in 2008 (2 years after it came out) you had to spend 75% of the cost of the ENTIRE CONSOLE on a graphics card ONLY.
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
PS3 > a GPU. a PS3 by itself will play games, watch movies, surf the internet, stream/share local media, print, you know... a great deal of stuff (not anywhere near as much as a computer, but stil a ton of stuff). A GPU will do nothing without it's surrounding components, you really can't compare just a GPU versus an entire console.
On point 3. Yeah I am going to need a source on that on right there. Also, for a handle see the gamecube.
PS3 Challenge?
PS3 Stats
3.2 GHz standard operation at 9.46 gflops
256 MB DDR2
GPU 550 Mhz 256 GDDR3 ram 650 MHZ
1 Game
1 Controller
295$ From New Egg + Tax ???
PC
Pentium D Type 805 2.66GHz 10.664 gflops 6$
OR
Pentium D Type 840 3.2 GHZ 12.8 gflops 6$
+Fan 8$
Board 35.99$
256 DDR Memory 4$
GPU 8600GTS 675 MHz 265 GDDR3 100MHz 30$
Micro ATX Case 13$ (well in my case free I have a few of them)
Micro ATX PSU 13$
Keyboard and Mouse 12$
Total 92$
and to price match I would have to include about 10-50 games from GoG + hundreds of free ones avialable.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
4398
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:51:00 -
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IWS, I have question. Is it best to go with Pentium instead of AMD? I like AMD because of the price, but I can't help but look at pentium as the better choice.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14908
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:56:00 -
[63] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:IWS, I have question. Is it best to go with Pentium instead of AMD? I like AMD because of the price, but I can't help but look at pentium as the better choice.
As someone else said; AMD seems to know an Intel person and blows up in their face...
Call it bad luck or whatever I have yet to have an AMD PC or Laptop survive more than a year under my care.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
425
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:00:00 -
[64] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
You are just reaching now.. you are comparing having to update your computer to console hardware revisions. New flash genius, I can play all of the latest greatest PS3 games on my 2007 PS3 without MISSING ONE THING (always wait until first price drop... always).
Also, if you went from fixing f-18 electrical systems to upgrading computers, you are an idiot.
1) I know you have been unemployed for like the majority of the time You have been a member of the Dust community, this is no secret.
2) There is no possible way that a job that requires a security clearance would pay less than f-ing geek squad.
Also, you keep comparing the cost of a 9800 GT from today, which makes me really think you are just an idiot. In order to match the performance of a PS3 in 2008 (2 years after it came out) you had to spend 75% of the cost of the ENTIRE CONSOLE on a graphics card ONLY.
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
PS3 > a GPU. a PS3 by itself will play games, watch movies, surf the internet, stream/share local media, print, you know... a great deal of stuff (not anywhere near as much as a computer, but stil a ton of stuff). A GPU will do nothing without it's surrounding components, you really can't compare just a GPU versus an entire console.
On point 3. Yeah I am going to need a source on that on right there. Also, for a handle see the gamecube.
PS3 Challenge?PS3 Stats 3.2 GHz standard operation at 9.46 gflops 256 MB DDR2 GPU 550 Mhz 256 GDDR3 ram 650 MHZ 1 Game 1 Controller 295$ From New Egg + Tax ??? PCPentium D Type 805 2.66GHz 10.664 gflops 6$ OR Pentium D Type 840 3.2 GHZ 12.8 gflops 6$ +Fan 8$ Board 35.99$ 256 DDR Memory 4$ GPU 8600GTS 675 MHz 265 GDDR3 100MHz 30$ Micro ATX Case 13$ (well in my case free I have a few of them) Micro ATX PSU 13$ Keyboard and Mouse 12$ Total 92$ and to price match I would have to include about 10-50 games from GoG + hundreds of free ones avialable.
You fail.... You can not actually buy a single one of those components with a 1 year warranty
Your setup will not run GTA 4, Assasin's creed 4, Tomb Raider, or just about any multi-platform release in the last 2 years.
You also did not link one single piece of equipment, so you basically just made up prices and put it next to those things.
You obviously tried to overpay for the PS3. ($269 dollars with The Last of Us).
Your setup does not include a 500 GB hard drive.
How about you stop being stupid now? Seriously don;t you ever get bored of being proven wrong over and over and over and over and over..... have you ever been right about anything on these forums... even once? You know no one respects you anymore right? All good will you had for being a CPM is gone...
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14908
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:05:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
You are just reaching now.. you are comparing having to update your computer to console hardware revisions. New flash genius, I can play all of the latest greatest PS3 games on my 2007 PS3 without MISSING ONE THING (always wait until first price drop... always).
Also, if you went from fixing f-18 electrical systems to upgrading computers, you are an idiot.
1) I know you have been unemployed for like the majority of the time You have been a member of the Dust community, this is no secret.
2) There is no possible way that a job that requires a security clearance would pay less than f-ing geek squad.
Also, you keep comparing the cost of a 9800 GT from today, which makes me really think you are just an idiot. In order to match the performance of a PS3 in 2008 (2 years after it came out) you had to spend 75% of the cost of the ENTIRE CONSOLE on a graphics card ONLY.
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
PS3 > a GPU. a PS3 by itself will play games, watch movies, surf the internet, stream/share local media, print, you know... a great deal of stuff (not anywhere near as much as a computer, but stil a ton of stuff). A GPU will do nothing without it's surrounding components, you really can't compare just a GPU versus an entire console.
On point 3. Yeah I am going to need a source on that on right there. Also, for a handle see the gamecube.
PS3 Challenge?PS3 Stats 3.2 GHz standard operation at 9.46 gflops 256 MB DDR2 GPU 550 Mhz 256 GDDR3 ram 650 MHZ 1 Game 1 Controller 295$ From New Egg + Tax ??? PCPentium D Type 805 2.66GHz 10.664 gflops 6$ OR Pentium D Type 840 3.2 GHZ 12.8 gflops 6$ +Fan 8$ Board 35.99$ 256 DDR Memory 4$ GPU 8600GTS 675 MHz 265 GDDR3 100MHz 30$ Micro ATX Case 13$ (well in my case free I have a few of them) Micro ATX PSU 13$ Keyboard and Mouse 12$ Total 92$ and to price match I would have to include about 10-50 games from GoG + hundreds of free ones avialable. You fail.... You can not actually buy a single one of those components with a 1 year warranty Your setup will not run GTA 4, Assasin's creed 4, Tomb Raider, or just about any multi-platform release in the last 2 years. You also did not link one single piece of equipment, so you basically just made up prices and put it next to those things. You obviously tried to overpay for the PS3. ($269 dollars with The Last of Us). Your setup does not include a 500 GB hard drive. How about you stop being stupid now?
odd the one you linked with last of us is priced up to 299$-334$
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Son Down
SamsClub
136
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooor, just shell out a $1000 and be done with it. Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist. You're from the UK....the Labour Party pays you to sit at home on your ass, right?! Collect your check, pay for a PC, boooooom, done. Yaaay, UK! Greatest Party Evah! |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
425
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:09:00 -
[67] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
You are just reaching now.. you are comparing having to update your computer to console hardware revisions. New flash genius, I can play all of the latest greatest PS3 games on my 2007 PS3 without MISSING ONE THING (always wait until first price drop... always).
Also, if you went from fixing f-18 electrical systems to upgrading computers, you are an idiot.
1) I know you have been unemployed for like the majority of the time You have been a member of the Dust community, this is no secret.
2) There is no possible way that a job that requires a security clearance would pay less than f-ing geek squad.
Also, you keep comparing the cost of a 9800 GT from today, which makes me really think you are just an idiot. In order to match the performance of a PS3 in 2008 (2 years after it came out) you had to spend 75% of the cost of the ENTIRE CONSOLE on a graphics card ONLY.
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
PS3 > a GPU. a PS3 by itself will play games, watch movies, surf the internet, stream/share local media, print, you know... a great deal of stuff (not anywhere near as much as a computer, but stil a ton of stuff). A GPU will do nothing without it's surrounding components, you really can't compare just a GPU versus an entire console.
On point 3. Yeah I am going to need a source on that on right there. Also, for a handle see the gamecube.
PS3 Challenge?PS3 Stats 3.2 GHz standard operation at 9.46 gflops 256 MB DDR2 GPU 550 Mhz 256 GDDR3 ram 650 MHZ 1 Game 1 Controller 295$ From New Egg + Tax ??? PCPentium D Type 805 2.66GHz 10.664 gflops 6$ OR Pentium D Type 840 3.2 GHZ 12.8 gflops 6$ +Fan 8$ Board 35.99$ 256 DDR Memory 4$ GPU 8600GTS 675 MHz 265 GDDR3 100MHz 30$ Micro ATX Case 13$ (well in my case free I have a few of them) Micro ATX PSU 13$ Keyboard and Mouse 12$ Total 92$ and to price match I would have to include about 10-50 games from GoG + hundreds of free ones avialable. You fail.... You can not actually buy a single one of those components with a 1 year warranty Your setup will not run GTA 4, Assasin's creed 4, Tomb Raider, or just about any multi-platform release in the last 2 years. You also did not link one single piece of equipment, so you basically just made up prices and put it next to those things. You obviously tried to overpay for the PS3. ($269 dollars with The Last of Us). Your setup does not include a 500 GB hard drive. How about you stop being stupid now? odd the one you linked with last of us is priced up to 299$-334$
What backwards country do you live in?
It is $269 for the 500 GB Last of us bundle, then you can be an idiot and buy the PS all stars bundle for liek 340, the 250 gb last of us bundle for 300, or the 500 gb lego bundle for 269.Hows does it feel to be a pedantic ass btw?
Or here, or here for $200 (the price of windows and blurray alone) or here or here with ps move and two games or here or here for 250.... now go be wrong somewhere else.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Son Down
SamsClub
136
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:13:00 -
[68] - Quote
Did you guys/gals hear!?
Dust is being cancelled on console! It's being continued on PC!! Go on........ |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
425
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
Son Down wrote:Did you guys/gals hear!?
Dust is being cancelled on console! It's being continued on PC!! Go on........
No, Dust was cancelled 7 months ago, before they ran all of those promotions for the game.
They might make a new game called legion on the PC.
They might maybe let you transfer something IF it is applicable to the PC game IF it gets GREEN LIT.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Son Down
SamsClub
136
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
Did you guys/gals hear!?
Dust is being cancelled on console! It's being continued on PC!! Go on..... |
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
425
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:21:00 -
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Son Down wrote:Did you guys/gals hear!?
Dust is being cancelled on console! It's being continued on PC!! Go on.....
So, either you are an alt of Michael whatever (stalker) or that really annoying stalker from a few days ago.
Anyway, keep telling yourself that lie, you just might believe it.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14908
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:32:00 -
[72] - Quote
I don't bother linking older parts because market is volatile and items get unlisted quickly.
but okay lazy mode activate!
GTA 4
Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz
1.5 GB memory
16GB
256MB Nvidia 7900
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM7082378309?hlSellerId=10333&ci_src=184425893&ci_sku=SPM7792719702&sid=IDx20131030xMPCOMxCPA9
128$
AC4
http://www.portatech.com/cart/show.asp
Combo w/ AMD Athlon II X4 (Socket AM3)
w/ Athlon II X4 620 (4 x 2.6GHz - 2MB Cache - 4000MHz FSB)
AMD A780-MB
Systems - CPU Fan Only
2GB DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 2GB - Single Module)
500GB 7200RPM SATA3 6gb/sec - Hard Drive
Assembly & Pretest - Basic
400W Basic Power Supply
Combo - 1 Year
216$
+3$ case from local state auction
TR
See Laptop*
Oh and lets add the games
Laptop 186$ +20$ For TR, AC 4 + 40$
246$
PC Build
296$ for all three games.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:39:00 -
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Refurbished (if you want to go down that road, you simply cannot match the price of a refurbished PS3 period), gfx processor will not handle GTA 4. HDD is too small, no blurray,... i am done even though I am sure I can find more. (LOL 30 Day warranty) Does not have a NVIDIA 7900.... jesus christ man.
Thanks for lying though.
liar wrote:AC4 http://www.portatech.com/cart/show.aspCombo w/ AMD Athlon II X4 (Socket AM3) w/ Athlon II X4 620 (4 x 2.6GHz - 2MB Cache - 4000MHz FSB) AMD A780-MB Systems - CPU Fan Only 2GB DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 2GB - Single Module) 500GB 7200RPM SATA3 6gb/sec - Hard Drive Assembly & Pretest - Basic 400W Basic Power Supply Combo - 1 Year 216$ +3$ case from local state auction
Link is empty, no graphics card, no windows, no blurray, no blurray software. You fail yet again, big suprise.
liar wrote:
TR
See Laptop*
Oh and lets add the games
Laptop 186$ +20$ For TR, AC 4 + 40$
246$
PC Build
296$ for all three games.
Nope, not one thing you listed will actually run those three games, play blurrays, and have a legal operating system on them. Let alone have a warranty, or be non-refurbished. The PS3s I linked are all brand new fresh from Sony never been opened with a free game and amazing blurray players to boot.
Be honest, you get off on being wrong don't you? Or are you just a pathological liar?
Just f-ing admit.... for once in your sad pathetic unemployed life admit that you are wrong... just once.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:47:00 -
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More like you never laid down any specific rules to this game so I break as many as I want.
Hence lazy mode activation because you're being just as lazy so I see no need to work any harder why you laud away and yell at everyone from your moral high ground.
No need for blu ray on the PC though to be honest just download it; not like physical games are really sold anymore these days. Minimal Video card between the three games varied most where anywher from 30-50$
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:More like you never laid down any specific rules to this game so I break as many as I want.
Hence lazy mode activation because you're being just as lazy so I see no need to work any harder why you laud away and yell at everyone from your moral high ground.
No need for blu ray on the PC though to be honest just download it; not like physical games are really sold anymore these days. Minimal Video card between the three games varied most where anywher from 30-50$
See, exactly my point, you are f-ing wrong, but now you will just try to deflect that.
me wrote:
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
After which you posted a bunch of builds that can't play any new releases for the last 2 years, then you went and starting using refurbished/used stuff with no warranty.
So you obviously read it, you knew what it meant, you can not create a computer even today that can match a PS3 at it's own price point. You have to try to cheat and lie, which is to be expected from someone who helped rip off THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
Yes you need blurray, hell that is a BIG feature of the PS3, that you can watch all those amazing high-def BLURRAYS on what equates to an amazing player along with games. Not only that, you can actually own your own games, meaning you can by/sell them (you know, consumer rights and the whole secondary market thing).
But whatever, just go ahead and lie/cheat/and steal, like you always do. No reason to ever admit you are wrong as hell because you are IWS, Super(unemployed)MAN!!!
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
594
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Posted - 2014.05.12 07:53:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:More like you never laid down any specific rules to this game so I break as many as I want.
Hence lazy mode activation because you're being just as lazy so I see no need to work any harder why you laud away and yell at everyone from your moral high ground.
No need for blu ray on the PC though to be honest just download it; not like physical games are really sold anymore these days. Minimal Video card between the three games varied most where anywher from 30-50$ See, exactly my point, you are f-ing wrong, but now you will just try to deflect that. me wrote:
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
After which you posted a bunch of builds that can't play any new releases for the last 2 years, then you went and starting using refurbished/used stuff with no warranty. So you obviously read it, you knew what it meant, you can not create a computer even today that can match a PS3 at it's own price point. You have to try to cheat and lie, which is to be expected from someone who helped rip off THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Yes you need blurray, hell that is a BIG feature of the PS3, that you can watch all those amazing high-def BLURRAYS on what equates to an amazing player along with games. Not only that, you can actually own your own games, meaning you can by/sell them (you know, consumer rights and the whole secondary market thing). But whatever, just go ahead and lie/cheat/and steal, like you always do. No reason to ever admit you are wrong as hell because you are IWS, Super)MAN!!! EDIT: yep, just move on IWS, act like you never opened your lie-hole.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:02:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:More like you never laid down any specific rules to this game so I break as many as I want.
Hence lazy mode activation because you're being just as lazy so I see no need to work any harder why you laud away and yell at everyone from your moral high ground.
No need for blu ray on the PC though to be honest just download it; not like physical games are really sold anymore these days. Minimal Video card between the three games varied most where anywher from 30-50$ See, exactly my point, you are f-ing wrong, but now you will just try to deflect that. me wrote:
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
After which you posted a bunch of builds that can't play any new releases for the last 2 years, then you went and starting using refurbished/used stuff with no warranty. So you obviously read it, you knew what it meant, you can not create a computer even today that can match a PS3 at it's own price point. You have to try to cheat and lie, which is to be expected from someone who helped rip off THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Yes you need blurray, hell that is a BIG feature of the PS3, that you can watch all those amazing high-def BLURRAYS on what equates to an amazing player along with games. Not only that, you can actually own your own games, meaning you can by/sell them (you know, consumer rights and the whole secondary market thing). But whatever, just go ahead and lie/cheat/and steal, like you always do. No reason to ever admit you are wrong as hell because you are IWS, Super)MAN!!! EDIT: yep, just move on IWS, act like you never opened your lie-hole.
Or maybe you can man up and take up the challenge.
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RemingtonBeaver
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:10:00 -
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ITT:
The mating habits of trolls.
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Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
539
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:13:00 -
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You dun' did it now.
You may be immortal, but are you bulletproof?
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:More like you never laid down any specific rules to this game so I break as many as I want.
Hence lazy mode activation because you're being just as lazy so I see no need to work any harder why you laud away and yell at everyone from your moral high ground.
No need for blu ray on the PC though to be honest just download it; not like physical games are really sold anymore these days. Minimal Video card between the three games varied most where anywher from 30-50$ See, exactly my point, you are f-ing wrong, but now you will just try to deflect that. me wrote:
LOL, even today, can you build a computer that will beat a PS3 for less than the cost of a super-slim (~$260 with a free game)? I know the fact that windows will be $100, blurray drive at least $50, and blurray playback software being another $50 only leaves you with $6-70 for case, MB, KB/m, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, oh and thats right... you need that 1 year warranty on everything so that means brand new components.
After which you posted a bunch of builds that can't play any new releases for the last 2 years, then you went and starting using refurbished/used stuff with no warranty. So you obviously read it, you knew what it meant, you can not create a computer even today that can match a PS3 at it's own price point. You have to try to cheat and lie, which is to be expected from someone who helped rip off THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Yes you need blurray, hell that is a BIG feature of the PS3, that you can watch all those amazing high-def BLURRAYS on what equates to an amazing player along with games. Not only that, you can actually own your own games, meaning you can by/sell them (you know, consumer rights and the whole secondary market thing). But whatever, just go ahead and lie/cheat/and steal, like you always do. No reason to ever admit you are wrong as hell because you are IWS, Super)MAN!!! EDIT: yep, just move on IWS, act like you never opened your lie-hole. Or maybe you can man up and take up the challenge.
Because if I wanted Dust for PC I'd care more about Legion. But I don't and it could be called a personal preference or being stubborn but I also judge the quality of the games by the company in all of their fronts: Duken Nukem's re-release was horrible and that company earns my vote to never buy a release from them. Square-Enix redeemed themselves with FF14:ARR and Tomb Raider. I think FF14's first release was far worse than Dust but they've jumped miles ahead of CCP on the communication, expectation and keeping players informed.
CCP really is on lifeline with how I support them now. I have an i7 build running SLI cards so it's a beastly gaming rig. But the point I will make is what use is buying into Legion or even Dust right now when you can't really look at CCP and believe they won't have your interest in mind? When stuff got problematic on Dust rather than run into "fix it" mode they gave us cloaks....Instead of interviewing and investigating the Gek-38 imbalance they gave us Railguns...How company approaches obstacles is a criteria all gamers like to sit down and talk about and use as a point of contention with CCP.
Their pr is horrible right now, they're barely surviving public scrutiny [because only presidents should have a sub 50% approval rating without getting fired] and they're intentionally going to abandon a large quantity of their current playerbase to move onto a concept, Legion, that's built upon a semi-broken concept, Dust.
You don't have to be a PC, console or hybrid player like me to look at this and scratch your head with a "wtf" exclamation mark on your head. Surprisingly this is by far NOT THE WORSE thing a company has done; HP saying they plan to stop making PC's was and we all know what happened to their CEO. CCP has stopped WoD and now can't even handle Dust, I'd be worried if I was them. This is far worse than when they released EvE:Incarna because working on game updates and material no one wants is a waste of resources. |
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Jebus McKing
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:22:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:1. BS
2. BS
3. BS
4. BS
Fixed that for you for you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.
@JebusMcKing
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:28:00 -
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I can't believe people believe that what is to be achieved with Dust can be realized only through a dying last generation console that's years behind in tech.
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Spark Kincade
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
28
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:37:00 -
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There's plenty of reasons to choose one gaming platform over another, but the ridiculous reasons listed in the OP are just so insanely misinformed and wrong. It reinforced the ignorant console gamer stereotype and demonstrates that OP hasn't used a gaming PC since 2004. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:38:00 -
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Speaking of PCs, I was just watching the Journeyman Project. Brought back memories. I read it's coming to Steam. I would like to play that again just for the nostalgia.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:39:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I can't believe people believe that what is to be achieved with Dust can be realized only through a dying last generation console that's years behind in tech.
Funny part is some games are defined not by their looks or graphics engine even. Some are defined by the quality and vision they bring to the table. I mean wtf Pokemon is how successful?!?! You could achieve it's graphics quality on the original console. Did newer technology make the Star War Epilogue better? It gave us Jar Jar Binks...JAR JAR BINKS!!!
As I stated in other posts, PC gaming isn't the achilles heel for CCP and Legion; if Legion is supposed to be what Dust should have been, then they are simply saying they are building a game using untested ideas and approaches that only in sound bites is it truly a great game. We could be wrong, a lot of us, about Legion and I won't argue that. I am arguing though that abandoning one project and then attempting the same project in spirit using the experience and knowledge from a supposed "broken game" is never a positive point or highlight you want to advertise.
CCP can have all of the advanced technology it needs and wants but if you can't have the core mechanics and basics down what use is it? I can really only think of one company that's saved itself from releasing something bad and making it better but they also took the right approach and started with the idea that if they want to make a game that they need new ideas and fresh perspectives; no one can create a game that caters to everyone but if a game can find the middle ground where we want to participate and can enjoy ourselves then it is a success.
If you want a PC analogy if you have all the hardware and tech in the world but the only OS you can install is windows 95 you'd just want to cry on the inside. I could forgive CCP if dust wasn't as "flashy" if they had better core fundamentals down and they don't. A game will ALWAYS be behind the hardware curve and that will never change but if you have the core basics down and build from there ppl will stay and support you. CCP doesn't have that and changing hardware and tech won't change it either. |
Spark Kincade
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:49:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Having played a bunch of both over the years, I much prefer online shooters on a PC. Not only are the inputs way better (i.e. MKB), but the quality of game and the rate of updates tend to be superior as well.
They are more expensive, though, and require more care and feeding (i.e. windows) than a console. I've been playing Multiplayer FPS since before the internet, and I prefer my non-hackable console. My OS is optimised for gaming, and my updates seemless-and my data is automatically backed up via Plus. SONY will even replace off warranty equipment. The real question is how many GOTY titles have you, the PCmasterbaters, missed in the last 10yrs. You are so oblivious to the facts your vane arrogance compels you to post. CCP is simply incapable of competing in the AAA console world- so a decision was made to fall back to the PC. Kasparov lost to IBM, not INTEL, How are those Civilization games? Sim City 4? Total War: Shogun 2? Starcraft? LoL, Dota, TF2, Counterstrike? Oh wait, you can't play any of those incredible games. That's too bad.
Also the new Unreal Tournament and Killing Floor games just got announced for PC last week as well. Like it or not PC is awesome for games right now, especially multiplayer games. |
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:50:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I can't believe people believe that what is to be achieved with Dust can be realized only through a dying last generation console that's years behind in tech. Funny part is some games are defined not by their looks or graphics engine even. Some are defined by the quality and vision they bring to the table. I mean wtf Pokemon is how successful?!?! You could achieve it's graphics quality on the original console. Did newer technology make the Star War Epilogue better? It gave us Jar Jar Binks...JAR JAR BINKS!!! As I stated in other posts, PC gaming isn't the achilles heel for CCP and Legion; if Legion is supposed to be what Dust should have been, then they are simply saying they are building a game using untested ideas and approaches that only in sound bites is it truly a great game. We could be wrong, a lot of us, about Legion and I won't argue that. I am arguing though that abandoning one project and then attempting the same project in spirit using the experience and knowledge from a supposed "broken game" is never a positive point or highlight you want to advertise. CCP can have all of the advanced technology it needs and wants but if you can't have the core mechanics and basics down what use is it? I can really only think of one company that's saved itself from releasing something bad and making it better but they also took the right approach and started with the idea that if they want to make a game that they need new ideas and fresh perspectives; no one can create a game that caters to everyone but if a game can find the middle ground where we want to participate and can enjoy ourselves then it is a success. If you want a PC analogy if you have all the hardware and tech in the world but the only OS you can install is windows 95 you'd just want to cry on the inside. I could forgive CCP if dust wasn't as "flashy" if they had better core fundamentals down and they don't. A game will ALWAYS be behind the hardware curve and that will never change but if you have the core basics down and build from there ppl will stay and support you. CCP doesn't have that and changing hardware and tech won't change it either.
Read what you're saying I understand where you're coming from.
But my opinions on the matter aren't based on aesthetics. I'm thinking of all the things that are possible on PC. The ease of updates and patches for example. The comm system, which is severely limited on the PS3. These are just few examples but the PC provides an endless canvas for them to paint on instead of console which is locked to a certain distance.
Plus I can cut CCP some slack. It's their first FPS title. There will undoubtedly be bumps in the road.
And the truth is, there will be plenty of people who will support Legion on PC.
Uniqueness is in the PC area with FPS titles, so they would probably welcome it more than console players who expect a certain level of game to be given to them.
I rather CCP have a football field to play on instead of a living room to play in.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:53:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:
Because if I wanted Dust for PC I'd care more about Legion. But I don't and it could be called a personal preference or being stubborn but I also judge the quality of the games by the company in all of their fronts: Duken Nukem's re-release was horrible and that company earns my vote to never buy a release from them. Square-Enix redeemed themselves with FF14:ARR and Tomb Raider. I think FF14's first release was far worse than Dust but they've jumped miles ahead of CCP on the communication, expectation and keeping players informed.
CCP really is on lifeline with how I support them now. I have an i7 build running SLI cards so it's a beastly gaming rig. But the point I will make is what use is buying into Legion or even Dust right now when you can't really look at CCP and believe they won't have your interest in mind? When stuff got problematic on Dust rather than run into "fix it" mode they gave us cloaks....Instead of interviewing and investigating the Gek-38 imbalance they gave us Railguns...How company approaches obstacles is a criteria all gamers like to sit down and talk about and use as a point of contention with CCP.
Their pr is horrible right now, they're barely surviving public scrutiny [because only presidents should have a sub 50% approval rating without getting fired] and they're intentionally going to abandon a large quantity of their current playerbase to move onto a concept, Legion, that's built upon a semi-broken concept, Dust.
You don't have to be a PC, console or hybrid player like me to look at this and scratch your head with a "wtf" exclamation mark on your head. Surprisingly this is by far NOT THE WORSE thing a company has done; HP saying they plan to stop making PC's was and we all know what happened to their CEO. CCP has stopped WoD and now can't even handle Dust, I'd be worried if I was them. This is far worse than when they released EvE:Incarna because working on game updates and material no one wants is a waste of resources.
FF14 fired the entire production staff first. Hired a guy that had experience with MMOs he then turns around hires more personnel to fix the game first; then he focused on a ps4 launch. Now those are out of the way content time.
As for what CCP Wolfman and CCP Remnant do I can only do so much yelling at them. Cloaking was being brought in regardless because of technology investment costs (shaders.) I would love to thank CCP Remnant on at least listening to the CPM concerning cloak role and function; previous version of the cloak would not been enjoyed at all. Regardless CCP developers are human; they are people; they have emotions like you and I and lot of these guys are absolutely scared to talk to most of you; let alone the CPM. CCP Rouge knows about the issue though so hopefully he being in the position can do better persuasion.
PR I agree with being terrible; CPM has long complained about it for a year now and after this fanfest mess up changes are bound to happen. It was also because of PR is why there was enough resentment on my end to convince other CPM members to try to stay on board because I didn't want to prove the PR's notions about the community or cpm establishment correct. Now that PR messed up; we sorta have the told you so shield up and a bit more oumph when we talk to PR again.
As for approval ratings http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514 lets say you're company board and you see this score and read most of the bad reviews while the forums where exploding with negativity? What would your actions be? I am no member of such boards but I would have had heads roll for that.
While I would love to talk more about horrible PR as the relationship with it as CPm is probably the reason why staying was the smarter of two terrible moves we could have done; Bottom line its not CCP Rouges fault; its not the CPM's fault. We did what we could, and now CCP knows they effed up. That's the important part. They know they effed up. Things happen when a company realizes it effed up.
and no the far worst thing I ever had a company do to me is shut down an MMO development; using most of the funds since its launch favor of another entirely different mmo as the game completely. While the one they're shutting down fell massively short of its goals and didn't even bother trying to reach up to accomplish any more of its goals it set out to do; patchings only consisting mostly of ui changes and monetization efforts. Heck that second mmo was not even in the same universe or category and promising a sequel with no transferability. Sadly that second mmo is already shutting down http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/12/todd-harris-confirms-no-more-development-on-tribes-ascend/ so yes I been in your boat before. The whole getting cut off Its not new I experienced it and whole reason why I cannot be as pissed off as I like to be over CCP's fubared legion announcement because it wasn't worth getting angry about in the end.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:57:00 -
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Spark Kincade wrote:There's plenty of reasons to choose one gaming platform over another, but the ridiculous reasons listed in the OP are just so insanely misinformed and asinine. It reinforces the ignorant and delusional console gamer stereotype that I thought we had gotten away from.
No that's people in general you will come to find out in life. You thought you moved away from those seemingly less in faculties and someone will come along and make others seem more capable of lowest dominators. Just take care to never be one yourself though.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.05.12 08:58:00 -
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Nice objective post IWS. Helped me get a clearer perception of things.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.12 09:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Gemini Cuspid wrote:
Because if I wanted Dust for PC I'd care more about Legion. But I don't and it could be called a personal preference or being stubborn but I also judge the quality of the games by the company in all of their fronts: Duken Nukem's re-release was horrible and that company earns my vote to never buy a release from them. Square-Enix redeemed themselves with FF14:ARR and Tomb Raider. I think FF14's first release was far worse than Dust but they've jumped miles ahead of CCP on the communication, expectation and keeping players informed.
CCP really is on lifeline with how I support them now. I have an i7 build running SLI cards so it's a beastly gaming rig. But the point I will make is what use is buying into Legion or even Dust right now when you can't really look at CCP and believe they won't have your interest in mind? When stuff got problematic on Dust rather than run into "fix it" mode they gave us cloaks....Instead of interviewing and investigating the Gek-38 imbalance they gave us Railguns...How company approaches obstacles is a criteria all gamers like to sit down and talk about and use as a point of contention with CCP.
Their pr is horrible right now, they're barely surviving public scrutiny [because only presidents should have a sub 50% approval rating without getting fired] and they're intentionally going to abandon a large quantity of their current playerbase to move onto a concept, Legion, that's built upon a semi-broken concept, Dust.
You don't have to be a PC, console or hybrid player like me to look at this and scratch your head with a "wtf" exclamation mark on your head. Surprisingly this is by far NOT THE WORSE thing a company has done; HP saying they plan to stop making PC's was and we all know what happened to their CEO. CCP has stopped WoD and now can't even handle Dust, I'd be worried if I was them. This is far worse than when they released EvE:Incarna because working on game updates and material no one wants is a waste of resources.
FF14 fired the entire production staff first. Hired a guy that had experience with MMOs he then turns around hires more personnel to fix the game first; then he focused on a ps4 launch. Now those are out of the way content time. Uprising 1.0 did had quite a few people quit from beta, and quite a few people demanding a FFXIV ARR treatment; shut it down and do it again. As for what CCP Wolfman and CCP Remnant do I can only do so much yelling at them. Cloaking was being brought in regardless because of technology investment costs (shaders.) I would love to thank CCP Remnant on at least listening to the CPM concerning cloak role and function; previous version of the cloak would not been enjoyed at all. Regardless CCP developers are human; they are people; they have emotions like you and I and lot of these guys are absolutely scared to talk to most of you; let alone the CPM. CCP Rouge knows about the issue though so hopefully he being in the position can do better persuasion. As for approval ratings http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514 lets say you're company board and you see this score and read most of the bad reviews while the forums where exploding with negativity? What would your actions be? I am no member of such boards but I would have had heads roll for that. While I would love to talk more about horrible PR as the relationship with it as CPM is probably the reason why staying was the smarter of two terrible moves we could have done; Bottom line its not CCP Rouges fault; its not the CPM's fault. We did what we could, and now CCP knows they effed up. That's the important part. They know they effed up. Things happen when a company realizes it effed up. and no the far worst thing I ever had a company do to me; is shut down an MMO development, and then using most of the funds since its launch favor of another entirely different mmo as the game completely. While the one they're shutting down fell massively short of its goals and didn't even bother trying to reach up to accomplish any more of its goals it set out to do; patchings only consisting mostly of ui changes and monetization efforts. Heck that second mmo was not even in the same universe or category and promising a sequel with no transferability. Sadly that second mmo is already shutting down http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/12/todd-harris-confirms-no-more-development-on-tribes-ascend/ so yes I been in your boat before. The whole getting cut off Its not new I experienced it and whole reason why I cannot be as pissed off as I like to be over CCP's fubared legion announcement because it wasn't worth getting angry about in the end.
Actually let met correct something for you, the guy who was hired to lead FF14's production team also immediately hired the team and moved into the 2nd position the lead for FF11's expansion and development post release. Besides creating roadmaps, feedback letters and engaging fans, he did the things you don't expect the head guy and it does instill faith. The thing is they saw potential where most people would've given up and they acted on it. Oh and here's FF14's first score:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/final-fantasy-xiv-online
Yeah..worse metacritic score by 10 and worse user score (6.1 versus 3.8). But there is a difference and why I have used ff14 as an example often in posts: when your lead guys takes charge and sits down with, engages and talks to gamers people stay calm. Players, even on console, are forgiving if you're honest with them. But when you get mixed messages and left in the dark, CCP sounds like the used car salesman whom you know not to trust and would faster run him over with one of his cars to drive home the point of animosity you have for him.
In games you get only so many opportunities to act on players goodwill. A lot of us stuck by them through the whole Dust514 affair. Now not anymore. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Well now that the proverbial muzzle is off CCP Rogue he has been posting far more frequently than the previous EP ever did.
Right now action is needed next.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 11:05:00 -
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You forgot one thing. Not only is console gaming easier on your wallet but also on your time. |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Michael Arck wrote: The comm system, which is severely limited on the PS3. These are just few examples but the PC provides an endless canvas for them to paint on instead of console which is locked to a certain distance.
To me this is going to be one of the major benefits.
On PC we can run other applications in parallel, so a third party comms will most likelly be in use.
On such tools you wont be only able to comunicate with your squad but with all Corp / Alliance players thruout all the games that are linked, and beyond.
Like my alliance make good use of Mumble, theres literally a ton of players connected and such scructure allows for security and organization not only within the game but for use with other games we wish to play together.
Imagine the possibilities for Legion, when your would be in touch with the thousand players above in space on voice comms.
So, yeah, not being able to run that on the PS3 was a great let down for me. |
Jvnx Nightchill
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
Universal Rockstars
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:I swear I've never known anyone over the age of 15 to use a console. It is a kiddie machine and has been since computer games took off around 1995. I only just bought one last year for my kids and as an aside got to play this game.
This game was going to be on a PC and it was a silly idea to have ever turned to the console for a company like CCP. I hated having to even consider having to get a console to play it. If I was going to get a PS3 for this game then I was going to wait until it took off.
Now we see that was never going to happen. It was a pretty predictable outcome too.
Sorry to tell you I'm in my late 30's and I game primarily on consoles usually the PS3. With the exception of Eve I only play games on the PC that I already have on the console (and finished) but want to mod such as Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas and Skyrim. Furthermore the bulk of my PS3 game collection are some of the goriest, violent, and heavily sexual innuendo laiden titles released. From the impaling and burning alive of enemies in original Soul Reaver to the gore and unabridged violence of God of War titles (don't forget the nudity and mini-games...) Calling consoles kiddie machines is assinine and ignorant, the Playstation variants have always been targeted to the late teen and adult player base.
As for Dust514 it was logical to release on a console considering the type of game it is, sadly the PS3 is at the end of it's life-cycle after a fairly good run. The PS4 is out now but I don't see everyone immediately abandoning the PS3 platform, personally I won't get a PS4 until after 2nd full year of its production.
Anyway CCP screwed the pooch at fan-feast so DUST514 is going to expire ahead of their schedule and Legion is over a year away from closed beta if taken seriously. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:50:00 -
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Spark Kincade wrote:There's plenty of reasons to choose one gaming platform over another, but the ridiculous reasons listed in the OP are just so insanely misinformed and asinine. It reinforces the ignorant and delusional console gamer stereotype that I thought we had gotten away from.
Honestly, as much as stereotypes suck. I guess, in this case, there's a reason for them. |
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