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BioClone Ax-45
Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:08:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:BioClone Ax-45 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:BioClone Ax-45 wrote:Hey! I bough Defiance and now its going to F2P...
I wanna a refund!
...You get it right? Did you buy Defiance with the promise that it would be around for 10 years? Were you told by the developers that they were laser focused on bringing Defiance to the PS3 as a full game? you understand? Was all of that on the PSN Item description when you bought it? Nope , same way nobody told me Defiance or Old republic would be "free" on the future... Deal with it. doubt any of it was in the PSN description. But according to DEv posts here, the game would be around and they were laser focused. Trolling? LOL, yeah that is what I am doing.
Believe me I understand why you say what you say, but if You havent noticed when its about money moral do not count.
Example? all what happened with Occulus rift when was sold to Facebook. Moral says "people who kickstarted it should get a refund..." In business that means nothing.
They deserve more as they get nothing 4 it, you get Aur.
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Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:09:00 -
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Or...they'll announce 2 months into Valkyrie that its been shelved and development is being shifted to their new Ip.. Eve:Butterfly... On the WiiU
Playing the game badly since Replication
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2794
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:12:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
So if you want "Dust" (aka Legion) on PS4, and from PC it will be easier to transfer to PS4
Where does this myth comes from? PC architecture is apparently very similar to PS4 architecture, so logically, once you create a product that is stable for PC, the transfer will be a much easier transition
And, it works both ways, doesn't it? Moreover, who will really even try to compete with a PC? Remember this. Master package, I wonder if that's why PC gamers are self-entitled master race.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:13:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:The problem with the whole thing is that we FEEL lied to and disrespected. I don't think -that most players- want a refund or anything like that but we do want some feeling of respect and CCP didn't give us that. They seemingly lied to us about PS3 development and the future of the game by continuously selling us in game items and assuring us that they were focused on this game on this platform for the foreseeable future when in fact they had already moved resources to anther game and platform.
They implied that there would be progress and we inferred that it would be here and tried to stick it out through all the problems the game has only to slapped in the face with the fanfest announcement. To me it isn't about the money it is about how they treated me as a customer and a fan of their products. They have damaged their name by not being honest, straightforward or open about what they wanted to do. Some honesty would have went a long way but they decided not to do that, they decided -in the players eyes- to do what they wanted without any regard to their customers. Don't waste your time anymore man. The answer/response here will be pretty much you should have known better and you don't deserve anything. You are nothing but a customer. Not deserving of any respect and CCP doesn't owe you any truths. I hope one day this happens to Eve side people or worse. I'll come back to read the whining LOL 'Tis true what you speak Robot. CCP should have been quite frank and more honest, but if you had known the fate of Dust, you would not have spent more money. That money will now go into the development of Dust II, so in the end, that money went to a good cause and is for the better of the game.
This isn't to say it is the bet for the PS3 customers...
This was actually quite a bogus move for those without a PC. I see your frustration, but again, it comes to the whole 'if you're spending this money on a game, you don't need it' thing. (Damn do I sound like a capitalist)
QQ? Boo Hoo
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:17:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LUGMOS wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
So if you want "Dust" (aka Legion) on PS4, and from PC it will be easier to transfer to PS4
Where does this myth comes from? PC architecture is apparently very similar to PS4 architecture, so logically, once you create a product that is stable for PC, the transfer will be a much easier transition And, it works both ways, doesn't it? Moreover, who will really even try to compete with a PC? Remember this. Master package, I wonder if that's why PC gamers are self-entitled master race. Damn the hacks to hell.
Hacks will be present anywhere there is coding. Also, I believe CCP are very strict on this matter, as EVE hacks I have not seen.
QQ? Boo Hoo
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:18:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:And to be honest, I understand why they are moving all their energy to the PC. That is what they have done in the past and feel more comfortable with it. My question to them would be, did you not know the console was a different animal when you took the project on?
I am all for the move to the PC. Will I play it, doubt it. Why? Because to get me to play I would have one request and only one. That all my Aurum purchased be put on my Legion account. Even Aurum that has already been used in boosters. AGAIN, I know some don't understand this but boosters were bought and used on the idea that the game was going to be around for a long, long time. I know it is hard to understand how and why a person would do this, but it is true. I had faith in CCP doing what they said they would do. Be laser focused on bringing Dust 514 to the PS3. I bought into it. End of story
I COULD NOT F*******G AGREE WITH YOU MORE, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY TO SOMEONE FROM ANCIENT EXILES ;)
I did the same thing, I bought a lot of aurum to get boosters so I could get my character as strong as possible. I was thinking and planning things AS FAR AHEAD AS POSSIBLE.
CCP's marketing team put omega's on and off the market to get people to "buy a lot" CUZ THE ITEM WAS ON FOR A LIMITED TIME. that's a strategy that they used to get people to buy aurum.
Now that we have a lot of boosters and can't use them, WE ARE THE ONES GETTING SCREWED.
WE GOT RIPPED OFF... JACKED!
Sooo, for those knuckle heads or broke azz bit***s/blood suckers who never supported the game try to understand that point. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2795
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:23:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LUGMOS wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
So if you want "Dust" (aka Legion) on PS4, and from PC it will be easier to transfer to PS4
Where does this myth comes from? PC architecture is apparently very similar to PS4 architecture, so logically, once you create a product that is stable for PC, the transfer will be a much easier transition And, it works both ways, doesn't it? Moreover, who will really even try to compete with a PC? Remember this. Master package, I wonder if that's why PC gamers are self-entitled master race. Damn the hacks to hell. Hacks will be present anywhere there is coding. Also, I believe CCP are very strict on this matter, as EVE hacks I have not seen.
O.O are you serious? Unless you don't consider Botting a kind of hack....
Hacks will be present anywhere there is coding. I disagree, not totally, but still disagree. I'm not going into details, mainly because english is not my first language so my point wouldn't probably be clear, but generally consoles are ironclad compared to a PC. We all want Dust (or legion, whatever they'll call it) to succeed, or at least, we wanted to succeed. That's why we invested in their dream: time, effort (giving proper and detailed feedbacks, suggestions etc), money. It's not simply because "they said it was going to be on ps4" (even if this alone would be enough to rage) but it's even because a competitive game that deeply influences another game must be as fair as possible.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
2402
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:28:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Michael Arck wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The conditions under which many people spent money were either misrepresented, or changed without our knowledge.
If you are paying for something you think will be around for years to come on a console, and you find out otherwise AFTER already having spent the money, you would be rightfully upset.
People are not getting what they thought they were paying for (a game with a commitment to a playstation console). Stop trying to defend people who argue there is no reason to be angry. There are legitimate reasons for people to be upset. So you buy a donut expecting the company to stay there for 5 years and if they go out of business in a week, you're entitled to get your money back because you bought the donut not to consume but to keep the business going? The items you bought by AUR were consumed. You got what you paid for. It didn't say in the PSN, "buying this will guarantee that Dust will continue its 10 year plan". That's an incorrect assumption on your part. not an assumption when the company tells you that they are going to be around with said game. Are you new here? Are you new at life? Do you pay the bills at your house or mom and dad does? Because I don't know about you, but I got what I paid for. I paid 20 bucks for 23K AUR. I got that. Do I want a refund? No. I have used it and currently still use my AUR. I didn't buy for a guarantee that the game would continue development. Hell, you weren't even sitting down in a room with CCP to have that discussion ("Look, I'm only buying this because I want this game to keep thriving"). You bought AUR to boost skill and to have access to items. Now that the show seems to be over, you're looking at things that will allow to you to take pot shots. It's wrong. It's the same thing as relationships. People break up and then all of sudden they want all their gifts back. That's just wrong. It's the same thing happening here. You paid real world money to buy entertainment. Entertainment that you have received. In today's age and the apparent intelligence of some people, just how in the hell you thought buying AUR secured the life expectancy of your game? Especially on last gen's console in 2014 which is the year that rise of next gen's library is imminent?
You got a pretty mouth boy.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Cai Mo
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:37:00 -
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Nothing has changed tbh, we all knew there was no eternal life in here. It's just that we are (somewhat) depressed atm cause the doctor has told us we will die soon (tm). Whether you can enjoy the afterlife that might follow depends on your 'religion' it seems.
forum explorer, dust prospector and eve illuminati
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2796
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:41:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Michael Arck wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The conditions under which many people spent money were either misrepresented, or changed without our knowledge.
If you are paying for something you think will be around for years to come on a console, and you find out otherwise AFTER already having spent the money, you would be rightfully upset.
People are not getting what they thought they were paying for (a game with a commitment to a playstation console). Stop trying to defend people who argue there is no reason to be angry. There are legitimate reasons for people to be upset. So you buy a donut expecting the company to stay there for 5 years and if they go out of business in a week, you're entitled to get your money back because you bought the donut not to consume but to keep the business going? The items you bought by AUR were consumed. You got what you paid for. It didn't say in the PSN, "buying this will guarantee that Dust will continue its 10 year plan". That's an incorrect assumption on your part. not an assumption when the company tells you that they are going to be around with said game. Are you new here? Are you new at life? Do you pay the bills at your house or mom and dad does? Because I don't know about you, but I got what I paid for. I paid 20 bucks for 23K AUR. I got that. Do I want a refund? No. I have used it and currently still use my AUR. I didn't buy for a guarantee that the game would continue development. Hell, you weren't even sitting down in a room with CCP to have that discussion ("Look, I'm only buying this because I want this game to keep thriving"). You bought AUR to boost skill and to have access to items. Now that the show seems to be over, you're looking at things that will allow to you to take pot shots. It's wrong. It's the same thing as relationships. People break up and then all of sudden they want all their gifts back. That's just wrong. It's the same thing happening here. You paid real world money to buy entertainment. Entertainment that you have received. In today's age and the apparent intelligence of some people, just how in the hell you thought buying AUR secured the life expectancy of your game? Especially on last gen's console in 2014 which is the year that rise of next gen's library is imminent?
Because "we're laser focused on ps3", "we'll set dust514 core first, then we'll move it to ps4" things.
It's our fault if we invested in a dream? probably yes. If Dust514 was going to be totally scrapped I would even understand that **** happens. But that's not what's happening. They are coming out with 2 more titles. One of them is even multi platform. What's the point in betraying console community? It's just going to create bad advertisement.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:48:00 -
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You can essentially say it is the fault of any victim of a con artist for being foolish enough to be conned. I accept my part of the blame for spending money on Dust 514 because I bought in on CCPs vision and wanted to support that (plus I liked BPO stuff). However, just because the victim shares some of the blame for gullibility it doesn't make the con artist (in this case CCP) any less guilty or any less of a scumbag. And most importantly once one discovers they have been conned, they are extra stupid if they let the same person con them again especially with the same con.
That is how I feel about this situation, I haven't called Sony asking for refunds, I just realize I got taken by CCP and I'm not going to allow them to do it again. I am also going to let other gamers here or in other gaming forums know I feel CCP are con men, why I feel they are, and try to dissuade them for falling for the same thing.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:51:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Michael Arck wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Michael Arck wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The conditions under which many people spent money were either misrepresented, or changed without our knowledge.
If you are paying for something you think will be around for years to come on a console, and you find out otherwise AFTER already having spent the money, you would be rightfully upset.
People are not getting what they thought they were paying for (a game with a commitment to a playstation console). Stop trying to defend people who argue there is no reason to be angry. There are legitimate reasons for people to be upset. So you buy a donut expecting the company to stay there for 5 years and if they go out of business in a week, you're entitled to get your money back because you bought the donut not to consume but to keep the business going? The items you bought by AUR were consumed. You got what you paid for. It didn't say in the PSN, "buying this will guarantee that Dust will continue its 10 year plan". That's an incorrect assumption on your part. not an assumption when the company tells you that they are going to be around with said game. Are you new here? Are you new at life? Do you pay the bills at your house or mom and dad does? Because I don't know about you, but I got what I paid for. I paid 20 bucks for 23K AUR. I got that. Do I want a refund? No. I have used it and currently still use my AUR. I didn't buy for a guarantee that the game would continue development. Hell, you weren't even sitting down in a room with CCP to have that discussion ("Look, I'm only buying this because I want this game to keep thriving"). You bought AUR to boost skill and to have access to items. Now that the show seems to be over, you're looking at things that will allow to you to take pot shots. It's wrong. It's the same thing as relationships. People break up and then all of sudden they want all their gifts back. That's just wrong. It's the same thing happening here. You paid real world money to buy entertainment. Entertainment that you have received. In today's age and the apparent intelligence of some people, just how in the hell you thought buying AUR secured the life expectancy of your game? Especially on last gen's console in 2014 which is the year that rise of next gen's library is imminent? Because "we're laser focused on ps3", "we'll set dust514 core first, then we'll move it to ps4" things. It's our fault if we invested in a dream? probably yes. If Dust514 was going to be totally scrapped I would even understand that **** happens. But that's not what's happening. They are coming out with 2 more titles. One of them is even multi platform. What's the point in betraying console community? It's just going to create bad advertisement.
You invested into a entertainment package. All the gushy feelings aside, we willingly played a game on last gen's tech. On a console whose successor is currently on store shelves.
This is the understanding I came to after I left the dust settle concerning the keynote.
And why people keep saying "betrayed". Alot of you guys are playing too heavy on the violin. Lay off.
I just see things differently I guess. I was asked by my corpmates if I was mad. Told him I am indifferent, in which I am. I don't know, life is pretty good and I'm not taking this game seriously. There are many games that I have loved and wished to keep on going, alas its 2014 and there time is over or I have moved on.
Of all the things that is happening in this world, the last thing I want to do is waste my energy on getting mad about a game that I have very well got my entertainment value and then some. It's not that serious.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:59:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:You can essentially say it is the fault of any victim of a con artist for being foolish enough to be conned. I accept my part of the blame for spending money on Dust 514 because I bought in on CCPs vision and wanted to support that (plus I liked BPO stuff). However, just because the victim shares some of the blame for gullibility it doesn't make the con artist (in this case CCP) any less guilty or any less of a scumbag. And most importantly once one discovers they have been conned, they are extra stupid if they let the same person con them again especially with the same con.
That is how I feel about this situation, I haven't called Sony asking for refunds, I just realize I got taken by CCP and I'm not going to allow them to do it again. I am also going to let other gamers here or in other gaming forums know I feel CCP are con men, why I feel they are, and try to dissuade them for falling for the same thing.
And yea it is. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. Cons are everywhere. In fact, we all should have raised our eyebrows when they said they have a 10 year plan for Dust on a console that is on its dying legs.
Like I told whitedevil, life is pretty good that I don't need to waste my energy on getting mad about what has transpired. They didn't con me for I choose to pay for AUR. It wasn't forced upon me (since folks keep forgetting the OP, which states this also) and I had a choice that I could continue playing this game free of charge. Or I could put money into a game.
Let's rewind that back...
Or I could put money into a GAME
Not something where I see my returns. Not something tangible. A simple game is what I put my money into for fake money and items I can't even go in my own closest and pull out.
Like the quote in the OP, this should be understood that the money you're spending is disposable income.
I got what I wanted from Dust and though I expected more, its still not enough for me to throw mud on it. I had and still have a great time in Dust.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2796
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:16:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:You can essentially say it is the fault of any victim of a con artist for being foolish enough to be conned. I accept my part of the blame for spending money on Dust 514 because I bought in on CCPs vision and wanted to support that (plus I liked BPO stuff). However, just because the victim shares some of the blame for gullibility it doesn't make the con artist (in this case CCP) any less guilty or any less of a scumbag. And most importantly once one discovers they have been conned, they are extra stupid if they let the same person con them again especially with the same con.
That is how I feel about this situation, I haven't called Sony asking for refunds, I just realize I got taken by CCP and I'm not going to allow them to do it again. I am also going to let other gamers here or in other gaming forums know I feel CCP are con men, why I feel they are, and try to dissuade them for falling for the same thing. And yea it is. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. Cons are everywhere. In fact, we all should have raised our eyebrows when they said they have a 10 year plan for Dust on a console that is on its dying legs. Like I told whitedevil, life is pretty good that I don't need to waste my energy on getting mad about what has transpired. They didn't con me for I choose to pay for AUR. It wasn't forced upon me (since folks keep forgetting the OP, which states this also) and I had a choice that I could continue playing this game free of charge. Or I could put money into a game. Let's rewind that back... Or I could put money into a GAME
Not something where I see my returns. Not something tangible. A simple game is what I put my money into for fake money and items I can't even go in my own closest and pull out. Like the quote in the OP, this should be understood that the money you're spending is disposable income. I got what I wanted from Dust and though I expected more, its still not enough for me to throw mud on it. I had and still have a great time in Dust.
Yes, you made a valid point, but Dust is not simply "dying". It's moving.
If you ask me whether or not it is "right" to rage upon a dying game, I'd answer no. But the general feeling here is that they lied. Of course, there are people who just don't give a damn if someone lie to them, but then it comes to personal attitudes.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:19:00 -
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Great, some quote from... some dude? I assume an EVE player who's never played this game. Or you could be quoting yourself for props? Whatever.
Hey, they sold this game as an MMO, and since they were a developer of a long-running, successful MMO, we expected we had some right to our accounts and our progress, so long as it didn't lose massive amounts of money, and that there would be advance notice so that people wouldn't invest further into something that was being killed off. Sure, lots of garbage MMO's will be cancelled by devs with no compensation to the players, but then these same devs make another game and you tell us it will be different this time so everybody climb aboard? And we're being unreasonable? Marvelous.
That is the bare minimum I expected: advance notice that development would stop, so we would know that further progression would be pointless because the game would die soon after. I don't think that's an unreasonable to expect that from them while they are trying to sell me ANOTHER IDENTICAL MMO, but they decided to milk us for most of a year instead. Man I find it just shocking that these actions don't give the players here more pause.
I really hope you don't have much attachment to your characters, because if CCP decides that they will sell to more people by axing all of your progress, they will do it, and they will lie to your face as they do it. They have proven that.
I think this is just stage one, mark my words. They will use vets to hype Legion, then they will nerf your characters so that new players are more favoured, and after all the arguments you all have been making against us "haters", you will have no choice but to whine and cry and be hypocrites, or shut your mouth and take another load of their bullcrap excuses. How can you believe they won't do it to you? They did it to us, and there are more of us than you. |
SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:23:00 -
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GÇ£...where there was nature and earth, life and water, I saw a desert landscape that was unending, resembling some sort of crater, so devoid of reason and light and spirit that the mind could not grasp it on any sort of conscious level and if you came close the mind would reel backward, unable to take it in. It was a vision so clear and real and vital to me that in its purity it was almost abstract. This was what I could understand, this was how I lived my life, what I constructed my movement around, how I dealt with the tangible. This was the geography around which my reality revolved: it did not occur to me, ever, that people were good or that a man was capable of change or that the world could be a better place through one's taking pleasure in a feeling or a look or a gesture, of receiving another person's love or kindness. Nothing was affirmative, the term "generosity of spirit" applied to nothing, was a cliche, was some kind of bad joke. Sex is mathematics. Individuality no longer an issue. What does intelligence signify? Define reason. Desire - meaningless. Intellect is not a cure. Justice is dead. Fear, recrimination, innocence, sympathy, guilt, waste, failure, grief, were things, emotions, that no one really felt anymore. Reflection is useless, the world is senseless. Evil is its only permanence. God is not alive. Love cannot be trusted. Surface, surface, surface was all that anyone found meaning in... this was civilization as I saw it, colossal and jagged...GÇ¥
GÇò Bret Easton Ellis, American Psycho
Blood flows. Death comes. War rages
My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:25:00 -
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Some people have the capability in understanding others, looking at the better side instead of choosing to allow a video game to disrupt their peace.
We are all human. EVE has had its ups and downs as well. So I remember those things they experienced so that when this happened, its not all too shocking.
CCP isn't the only ones who "lied" here either. It seems the majority of the community lied too. In an odd way, I have never seen so many mercs express their love of this game since they announced the keynote. These are mostly made of the same mercs who said this game was dying and calling it a pos
And to be truthful, if they showcased 1.9, people would still find something negative to talk about.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:28:00 -
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Harold Junk wrote:Great, some quote from... some dude? I assume an EVE player who's never played this game. Or you could be quoting yourself for props? Whatever.
Hey, they sold this game as an MMO, and since they were a developer of a long-running, successful MMO, we expected we had some right to our accounts and our progress, so long as it didn't lose massive amounts of money, and that there would be advance notice so that people wouldn't invest further into something that was being killed off. Sure, lots of garbage MMO's will be cancelled by devs with no compensation to the players, but then these same devs make another game and you tell us it will be different this time so everybody climb aboard? And we're being unreasonable? Marvelous.
That is the bare minimum I expected: advance notice that development would stop, so we would know that further progression would be pointless because the game would die soon after. I don't think that's an unreasonable to expect that from them while they are trying to sell me ANOTHER IDENTICAL MMO, but they decided to milk us for most of a year instead. Man I find it just shocking that these actions don't give the players here more pause.
I really hope you don't have much attachment to your characters, because if CCP decides that they will sell to more people by axing all of your progress, they will do it, and they will lie to your face as they do it. They have proven that.
I think this is just stage one, mark my words. They will use vets to hype Legion, then they will nerf your characters so that new players are more favoured, and after all the arguments you all have been making against us "haters", you will have no choice but to whine and cry and be hypocrites, or shut your mouth and take another load of their bullcrap excuses. How can you believe they won't do it to you? They did it to us, and there are more of us than you.
So posted a quote expecting me to read yours but you haven't even read the OP? He states he's been involved with Dust since beta.
Hey, I like his post better than Maken Tosch trying to cause riots on EVE forums because he mad about what has transpired.
I respect mature, constructive opinions. Whether it agrees with my points or not. And again, for the umpteenth time, he says something that goes for both sides of the argument.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:46:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Some people have the capability in understanding others, looking at the better side instead of choosing to allow a video game to disrupt their peace.
We are all human. EVE has had its ups and downs as well. So I remember those things they experienced so that when this happened, its not all too shocking.
CCP isn't the only ones who "lied" here either. It seems the majority of the community lied too. In an odd way, I have never seen so many mercs express their love of this game since they announced the keynote. These are mostly made of the same mercs who said this game was dying and calling it a pos
And to be truthful, if they showcased 1.9, people would still find something negative to talk about. This so, so much. I don't understand why people are bullshitting fake feelings of betrayal. In all honesty, a lot of people didn't have real faith in CCP. Again, they weren't really trying to help CCP, but instead, trying to help themselves. People with true faith would accept this change as a change for the better of the game.
Again, this doesn't go for everyone. The loyal ones without a PC will now be left on this dyeing game, looking at the Elysium that will be Legion. I feel for those people that will not be able to experience the entirety of Dusts potential. I very much wish there was a way to meet at the middle, but there is no way to.
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Harold Junk
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Michael Arck wrote: So you posted a quote expecting me to read yours, but you haven't even read the OP? He states he's been involved with Dust since beta.
Hey, I like his post better than Maken Tosch trying to cause riots on EVE forums because he mad about what has transpired.
I respect mature, constructive opinions. Whether it agrees with my points or not. And again, for the umpteenth time, he says something that goes for both sides of the argument.
Well **** sorry, didn't see a link. Did my browser **** up? I'm not familiar with all personalities involved with Dust, does that make me a bad person?
But please, why beat around the bush? If you are a part of this discussion, tell me what you think. Do you think they are lying to players about keeping their characters now? If that was the plan, they certainly would have to. What if they want to slow down progression in the game somewhat, won't that require them to lower the skill levels of players who are maxed out to accommodate new players?
Help me out here, if it's all just business to CCP, what should be my expectations from them if I do play Legion? You yourself just told us that you agree that we should expect absolutely nothing from them. I guess you really want to play Legion just you and the handful of people that happen to agree with you. |
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