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lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 9	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:42:00 - [1] - Quote Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense,
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1399	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:43:00 - [2] - Quote They're just gonna keep screwing us over. Gallente Scout before 1.8, and after General John Ripper approved Yeah I ISK hoard
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 495	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:47:00 - [3] - Quote who tf will stay on this garbage after this fiasco?
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 46	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:50:00 - [4] - Quote its not that. people are raging because they put time and money into a game based on promises that were given to them just to find out that game they were promised is being developed on a different platform and they possibly wasted there times and money because character data may not be transferred. all around it was just a bad choice of timing they should have postponed the announcement of Project Legion till they were certain and had a clear means of explaining things.
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 46	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:51:00 - [5] - Quote though Project Legion is a great Idea and a step in the right direction. i surely will be playing it when it hits and i will keep playing dust till its swept under the carpet .
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1053	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:03:00 - [6] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, lol, they are gonna make another half baked game ("another" even - as it's just Dust running on high settings as per the demonstrated footage) as would be expected coming from a Chinese game developer. Anyone ever heard of a good Chinese video game? Nothing comes to mind - China is lagging behind in this segment. You get what you pay for when it comes to outsourcing in the video game market. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 9	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:09:00 - [7] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, lol, they are gonna make another half baked game ("another" even - as it's just Dust running on high settings as per the demonstrated footage) as would be expected coming from a Chinese game developer. Anyone ever heard of a good Chinese video game? Nothing comes to mind - China is lagging behind in this segment. You get what you pay for when it comes to outsourcing in the video game market. Nothing to say, you are 100% right.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 190	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:14:00 - [8] - Quote Nstomper wrote: who tf will stay on this garbage after this fiasco? http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Seems like ... lets say ... everyone??? I hope there will be a massive drop coming, so I can finally conquer a district all by myself The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Kelestia Colvolian Commando clan 8	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:22:00 - [9] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, lol, they are gonna make another half baked game ("another" even - as it's just Dust running on high settings as per the demonstrated footage) as would be expected coming from a Chinese game developer. Anyone ever heard of a good Chinese video game? Nothing comes to mind - China is lagging behind in this segment. You get what you pay for when it comes to outsourcing in the video game market. I came to DUST, last summer, as a fairly experienced EVE player. What happened at Fanfest yesterday was an epihany for me, as I finally understand what kind of company CCP is. CCP are visionaries. Or more accurately, they're dreamers. Everything CCP produce is about potential. It's about jam tomorrow and never jam today. As a result, the best state that CCP's game can acheive is "adequate". Because CCP can never follow through on their promises, on their visions. They try their best, like with Dust and WoD (and even EVE, which is essentially just a niche game) but always fall short. I have no doubt that Legion will follow the same pattern. When (If?) it drops in a year, or two years, it will be "adequate", with the Devs promising it will become great in a year or two (or more likely Soon(tm)). Valkyrie: I predict that will be the same story. Everyone's bigging it up as the killer app for OR, the next big thing in gaming. But it won't be because it's being developed by CCP. So all it will be is "adequate". CCP are dreamers. They will never, ever really be doers.
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 690	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:23:00 - [10] - Quote Good idea? Pc and ps4 sure! The problem is things like: Blue prints will be off market soon, buy all you can ; week later , oh bpo's are bad for economy we wanna remove them. Sell a ton of boosters, week before fanfest. Day before fanfest, announce the origin sales and sp, next day kill the game! Their FUKINCROOKS END OF STORY! My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!

lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 10	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:03:00 - [11] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Good idea? Pc and ps4 sure! The problem is things like: Blue prints will be off market soon, buy all you can ; week later , oh bpo's are bad for economy we wanna remove them. Sell a ton of boosters, week before fanfest. Day before fanfest, announce the origin sales and sp, next day kill the game! Their FUKINCROOKS END OF STORY! They not killing the game, they want it to survive. Consoles are PC's at the end, so PC is the future of gaming.
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 589	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:07:00 - [12] - Quote The fanbase died, the game died with it. You killed Dust 514, now live with it. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5264	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:14:00 - [13] - Quote Not all of us raging about Legion are raging about the move from PS3. We're raging that it was planned well in advance and we were directly told DUST would be continuing while CCP was preparing to kill it. We're raging that DUST could have moved to the new platform with the planned updates and content Legion is supposed to be getting, which had always been the plan. Instead, though, CCP are scrapping the game, leaving it to die slowly on an aging console, and pretending like they never promised to do anything for it that they're now promising (and probably failing to deliver again) for Legion. We're raging that CCP actively promoted events which encouraged people to spend real money on the game, telling us it would be continuing for ten years or more, after that had already made the decision to abandon it.
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 11	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:16:00 - [14] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not all of us raging about Legion are raging about the move from PS3. We're raging that it was planned well in advance and we were directly told DUST would be continuing while CCP was preparing to kill it. We're raging that DUST could have moved to the new platform with the planned updates and content Legion is supposed to be getting, which had always been the plan. Instead, though, CCP are scrapping the game, leaving it to die slowly on an aging console, and pretending like they never promised to do anything for it that they're now promising (and probably failing to deliver again) for Legion. We're raging that CCP actively promoted events which encouraged people to spend real money on the game, telling us it would be continuing for ten years or more, after that had already made the decision to abandon it. Man, ** PS3, work harder 2 years, and then, when finally launch the ***** game, buy a 200 usd pc.
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 11	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:17:00 - [15] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not all of us raging about Legion are raging about the move from PS3. We're raging that it was planned well in advance and we were directly told DUST would be continuing while CCP was preparing to kill it. We're raging that DUST could have moved to the new platform with the planned updates and content Legion is supposed to be getting, which had always been the plan. Instead, though, CCP are scrapping the game, leaving it to die slowly on an aging console, and pretending like they never promised to do anything for it that they're now promising (and probably failing to deliver again) for Legion. We're raging that CCP actively promoted events which encouraged people to spend real money on the game, telling us it would be continuing for ten years or more, after that had already made the decision to abandon it. Man, ** PS3, work harder 2 years, and then, when finally launch the ***** game, buy a 200 usd pc. Plug a damn controller if you are worry about that. A PS3 controller works even better in a pc than in the ps3 itself.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 612	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:20:00 - [16] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, Yes it was a business decision and when you make a business decision you can decide to treat your customers with respect or you xan screw them over and milk them for money. Should they be happy and loyal if you choose the latter route? If CCP couldn't make Dust work financially what makes you think Valkyrie will be successfil or that they will actually sink more resources into Dust 514 PC version? Because, that's why.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5266	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:21:00 - [17] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not all of us raging about Legion are raging about the move from PS3. We're raging that it was planned well in advance and we were directly told DUST would be continuing while CCP was preparing to kill it. We're raging that DUST could have moved to the new platform with the planned updates and content Legion is supposed to be getting, which had always been the plan. Instead, though, CCP are scrapping the game, leaving it to die slowly on an aging console, and pretending like they never promised to do anything for it that they're now promising (and probably failing to deliver again) for Legion. We're raging that CCP actively promoted events which encouraged people to spend real money on the game, telling us it would be continuing for ten years or more, after that had already made the decision to abandon it. Man, ** PS3, work harder 2 years, and then, when finally launch the ***** game, buy a 200 usd pc. Is anything in your post even remotely relevant to anything I said? No? Why did you quote me then?
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 590	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:22:00 - [18] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Man, ** PS3, work harder 2 years, and then, when finally launch the ***** game, buy a 200 usd pc. Yup, this exactly. Everyone who isnt a goddamn child knows that a PC of similar specs costs a third of the price of a console. And dont you give me this "optimized for gaming" bullshit, I played games in 2006 in a greater resolution that "nex gen" consoles can pull off without shitting themselves. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5266	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:22:00 - [19] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not all of us raging about Legion are raging about the move from PS3. We're raging that it was planned well in advance and we were directly told DUST would be continuing while CCP was preparing to kill it. We're raging that DUST could have moved to the new platform with the planned updates and content Legion is supposed to be getting, which had always been the plan. Instead, though, CCP are scrapping the game, leaving it to die slowly on an aging console, and pretending like they never promised to do anything for it that they're now promising (and probably failing to deliver again) for Legion. We're raging that CCP actively promoted events which encouraged people to spend real money on the game, telling us it would be continuing for ten years or more, after that had already made the decision to abandon it. Man, ** PS3, work harder 2 years, and then, when finally launch the ***** game, buy a 200 usd pc. Plug a damn controller if you are worry about that. A PS3 controller works even better in a pc than in the ps3 itself. Is anything in THIS post relevant to what I had said in my quote post OR what you had said in the post you quoted from yourself? No? WTF kind of drugs are you on? And are they legal anywhere in the world? If so, where?
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 127	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:40:00 - [20] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, The only argument that have made some sense in all the weekend. Legion

MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 213	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:43:00 - [21] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, So who's fault is it that it took a year beta and a year of release and they still don't have half of what was promised. Blame ccp fanboy
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 598	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:45:00 - [22] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: So who's fault is it that it took a year beta and a year of release and they still don't have half of what was promised. Blame ccp fanboy I for my blame consoles. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 16	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:47:00 - [23] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, So who's fault is it that it took a year beta and a year of release and they still don't have half of what was promised. Blame ccp fanboy CCP fault. No argue on that. But the right choice is going to PC to fix it. You can't develope a game without isk.
Broxx Nexular ShitHead Squadron 24	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:49:00 - [24] - Quote Beeeees wrote: The fanbase died, the game died with it. You killed Dust 514, now live with it. ^^this the current fanbase is about 3,000 players. Its peak was less than 7,000. For a free to play game relying on microtransactions. It was a flop from the day it released.
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 18	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:53:00 - [25] - Quote Broxx Nexular wrote: Beeeees wrote: The fanbase died, the game died with it. You killed Dust 514, now live with it. ^^this the current fanbase is about 3,000 players. Its peak was less than 7,000. For a free to play game relying on microtransactions. It was a flop from the day it released. Legion day 1 = 500,000 new players throw Steam TM.
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 503	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:58:00 - [26] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, lol, they are gonna make another half baked game ("another" even - as it's just Dust running on high settings as per the demonstrated footage) as would be expected coming from a Chinese game developer. Anyone ever heard of a good Chinese video game? Nothing comes to mind - China is lagging behind in this segment. You get what you pay for when it comes to outsourcing in the video game market. DDR? FUK you CCP!
Pliny Eldritch SCIENCE FOR LIFE Galactic Skyfleet Empire 2	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:02:00 - [27] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Everyone who isnt a goddamn child knows that a PC of similar specs costs a third of the price of a console. And dont you give me this "optimized for gaming" bullshit, I played games in 2006 in a greater resolution that "nex gen" consoles can pull off without shitting themselves. This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two, but it's a valid point. Since Legion is being developed with UE 4, it shouldn't make a difference though. Epic's been telling everyone who will listen that PC and console games developed with the engine will scale and run equally well on PCs and Consoles.
lllS3V3Nlll TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 18	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:05:00 - [28] - Quote Pliny Eldritch wrote: Beeeees wrote: Everyone who isnt a goddamn child knows that a PC of similar specs costs a third of the price of a console. And dont you give me this "optimized for gaming" bullshit, I played games in 2006 in a greater resolution that "nex gen" consoles can pull off without shitting themselves. This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two, but it's a valid point. Since Legion is being developed with UE 4, it shouldn't make a difference though. Epic's been telling everyone who will listen that PC and console games developed with the engine will scale and run equally well on PCs and Consoles. Buy a PC, install steambox.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1334	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:11:00 - [29] - Quote They won't support Dust on PS3 long term regardless of the numbers going forward. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Nos Nothi for Life
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 602	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:13:00 - [30] - Quote Pliny Eldritch wrote: This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two As a matter of fact PS4/Xbone spec hardware were obsolete more than a year before launch. Just sayan. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly

Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 159	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:16:00 - [31] - Quote Turning this into some kind of PC vs Console debate is completely ignoring not just how CCP has handled this current situation, but how they've handled Dust all along. But apparently that's okay because "vision" and "what Dust was meant to be" and all that BS. How quickly everyone has forgotten that only a year ago, Dust was supposed to be their "vision". Since then, CCP has repeatedly dropped the ball, changed directions, added and removed, buffed and nerfed until Dust was no longer their vision, but a convoluted mess so far beyond repair that they'd rather just scrap it and start over than continue even trying to fixing it. By their own words, Legion is still just a prototype, a concept that isn' t even in the Alpha stage yet, and yet people who, as little as a week ago, were criticizing CCP's ability to develop a AAA FPS at all are eating up the hype, and proudly waving the Legion banner. People who complained and criticized things like weapon balance, that have nothing at all to do with what platform the game is on. Everything they've shown of Legion so far has been nothing more than a marketing ploy, carefully crafted to sucker us in, just like back when Dust was first announced. It looked pretty awesome too, at the time, but what CCP hyped and what they ultimately delivered ended up being two very different things. What makes any of you think Legion will be any different? Because PC? Please, don't be so nieve. Maybe I'm wrong, though, maybe they've actually learned from Dust. Maybe THIS time will be different but, while it might be a different platform, it's still the same scrub developer at the helm. I'm sorry, but a crappy driver is a still crappy driver, no matter what kind of car he's driving. /rant
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5272	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:19:00 - [32] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Pliny Eldritch wrote: This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two As a matter of fact PS4/Xbone spec hardware were obsolete more than a year before launch. Just sayan. PS3 and XBox 360 consoles had many aspects of their hardware outdated by the time they were released, too. They still managed to produce games which looked as good as their PC equivalents after developers got used to creating games for the consoles, which took a couple of years. High-end PCs did end up overtaking them eventually, but there was a period where the console games looked better. Early in a console's lifespan, developers aren't pushing its limits. Later in a console's lifespan, they're either pushing them too hard (framerate problems and other glitches) or simply falling behind far enough to give PC the advantage again.
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 604	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:20:00 - [33] - Quote Eh we all know that someone got shatfted in the process. Its like you never lived in a third world country OH WAIT you never did. Corporate decisions would dictate to violate your asshole if they were allowed to, just for the fun of it. I dont try to play apologist for CCP here, but seriously. If someone scams you from an industry you know is kept alive entirely by scammers you have noone but yourself to blame. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1890	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:22:00 - [34] - Quote lllS3V3Nlll wrote: Q: How big you think the player base size is needed for Dust 514 to be sustainable so it can keep been developed? The few isk Dust 514 makes .... probably not even inoff to pay the electricity bill for the servers, CCP choice makes perfect sense, dust can't continue to be developed, they have maxxed out the PS3. the move wasn't a matter of choice. what was a choice was to lie to us for a year about being laser focused on ps3 dev when they full well knew they'd reached the limit of whats possible. "welp, I think the keynote can be considered a PR disaster at this point." Ko6 scout,
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 604	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:23:00 - [35] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Beeeees wrote: Pliny Eldritch wrote: This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two As a matter of fact PS4/Xbone spec hardware were obsolete more than a year before launch. Just sayan. PS3 and XBox 360 consoles had many aspects of their hardware outdated by the time they were released, too. They still managed to produce games which looked as good as their PC equivalents At half the resolution they could be played on PC. And people NEVER got the cell figured out, unless they came from a black hole research project. Google it, seriously. And please dont confuse console exclusives with something that can only be done on consoles. The latter simply doesnt exist. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5275	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:50:00 - [36] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Beeeees wrote: Pliny Eldritch wrote: This statement is only usually true after the aforementioned console is out for a year or two As a matter of fact PS4/Xbone spec hardware were obsolete more than a year before launch. Just sayan. PS3 and XBox 360 consoles had many aspects of their hardware outdated by the time they were released, too. They still managed to produce games which looked as good as their PC equivalents At half the resolution they could be played on PC. And people NEVER got the cell figured out, unless they came from a black hole research project. Google it, seriously. And please dont confuse console exclusives with something that can only be done on consoles. The latter simply doesnt exist. Console exclusives at the right point in the console's life cycle look and run better than comparable PC games released at the same time while those PC games are running on the hardware that was available at that time. Many of those games look and run better now than they did on release, and sometimes it's simply because they scale with upgrades to your PC, which the console doesn't have the option of doing. The fact is that a console gives you a limited window of advantage over PC gamers, but for the most part, the advantage is in cost. A solid gaming PC will usually (not always) cost more than a console, and making sure it REMAINS a solid gaming PC will cost a LOT more than making sure your gaming console remains viable over the next 5 years.
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 604	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:52:00 - [37] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Console exclusives at the right point in the console's life cycle look and run better than comparable PC games released at the same time while those PC games are running on the hardware that was available at that time. Many of those games look and run better now than they did on release, and sometimes it's simply because they scale with upgrades to your PC, which the console doesn't have the option of doing. The fact is that a console gives you a limited window of advantage over PC gamers, but for the most part, the advantage is in cost. A solid gaming PC will usually (not always) cost more than a console, and making sure it REMAINS a solid gaming PC will cost a LOT more than making sure your gaming console remains viable over the next 5 years. No. I wont even bother explaining why everything you said is wrong. Educate yourself. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly


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