honestly exploit means to use. Its one of those words like discrimination that always sounds bad.

Edit to earlier post
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Dirt_Nap_Squad. 1985 members
http://evewho.com/alli/Dirt%20Nap%20Squad. 583 are eve pilots
1402 are dust mercs

my point still stands largest alliance will have the loudest voice.
you remove your alliance tag from your posts but most of us still know who you are

Until you realise this is a not a democratic election. CCP expressly stated that they have final say in who joins the CPM.

Until you realize the entire process has been democratic
The voices aren't just CPM the voices are nerfing/buffing-shaping.

The CPM is just a relay

I just feel in my belly that CPM1 is going to do far more harm than good. This game is still way too young to throw it to the wolves via "public" voting, when there are CLEARLY systems in place via the playerbase to influence the votes as they see fit.

It just has bad juju written all over it.

Uhh, those are EVE players too.

Also, just because DUST has 5000 active players doesn't mean they have 5000 players all together.

Also, also, not all 1500 or so DNS dust guys are active.

You might want to check your numbers. wouldn't want you to look dumb on the forums

I understand the mechanics behind Planetary Conquest are not that great, but please refrain from using terms such as exploitation.

That would imply that they've violated a rule/regulation specifically set forth by CCP, and needs DEV moderation (ie, banning).

so you're saying ccp intended for molden heath to be controlled by one alliance who just farms isk out of it and then goes and crushes noobs in pub matches thanks to their infinite isk fountain?

no?

ok, then it's exploitation....

Hmm..

• Heaven's Lost Property
• Fatal Absolution
• Ahrrendee Mercenaries
• TeamPlayers
• Escrow Removal And Acquisition
• The Rainbow Effect
• Ancient Exiles
• Nyain San
• G0DS AM0NG MEN
• Die Valkyrja
• Dem Durtty Boyz
• Capital Acquisition LLC
• Dirt Nap Squad

Yeah we definitely are are a very, very, small number

so you're saying ccp intended for molden heath to be controlled by one alliance who just farms isk out of it and then goes and crushes noobs in pub matches thanks to their infinite isk fountain?

no?

ok, then it's exploitation....

They designed the mechanics.
It has been shown several times throughout DUST's history that it is possible to attain a huge degree of MH control and CCP have never intervened.
DNS is only the third group to dominate MH.

So are you saying that it is violating rules laid down by CCP for gain? Because that would actually be exploitation, and nobody is doing that.

I asked this in another thread and since I didn't see you on it, I'll ask you here.

What do you want us(DNS) to do? For months on end we fought each for the land grab. Either for our own land(s) or being hired be other corps and fighting against each other for someone elses land(s). This went on and on and was still going on up until we all went under the same umbrella. What would you do? Keep fighting the same 16-24 guys every night?

Tell me/us right here; what do you want from DNS? Just say it, don't be shy. I am curious of your thoughts and will be respectful of them.

I'll wait.

I think DNS should be the dust version of eve's RVB....I wouldn't have any problem with how much isk they make if they used a portion of it to fund events, and train noobs, I think you all should work with dust university for the training part, having your vets give lectures and classes there as well as a few districts for training purposes.

I think you all should stop pubstomping, until the game grows to point where the population can handle it, right now it just drives new players away who don't understand whats going on.

and instead of the tiresome brag and troll threads you all shite on other players with, I think you all should flood the forums with threads to ccp to fix this crap and how, since some of your alliance are some of the smartest and skilled in dust with a deep knowledge of its mechanics...

I'm dreaming, I know... but you asked, now troll away.....

I'm not trolling, I want to know. Personally, I help smaller corps. Won't go into details, but I help out the new guys along with a few people in my Corp.

Calling us exploiters though. I don't get it. We don't fight each other, that is not exploitation any way you slice it.

As far as pub stomping goes, I don't see a difference tbh. The matches are the same to me.

You want us(DNS) to give districts for "training purposes". See, this is where I have issue. Someone always wants something. How bout earn a district? That is what is wrong with kids today. Everyone thinks they deserve a participation ribbon. Sorry buddy, it doesn't work like this.

You bash us for doing what we do yet if the shoes were on your feet, you would do the same thing. I know, I know, you will reply with that you would not. This game is about dominating your opponents, why do anything less?

It is up to CCP to fix the game, especially pub matches. Their needs to be tiered levels. Basic/Adv/Proto rooms. When/if that were to happen though, people would cry because a 40 million SP Merc fitted himself out in basic gear and stomped out the room. It's never ending.

There is no way to make anyone happy unless DNS just gave the districts up on a first come first serve basis, restricted to playing FW with basic gear, had all our ISK taken away and only allowed 8 guys from the same alliance in any match at any given time.

Good luck with all of that. I guess you guys can continue QQ'ing because if it is up to me, you won't ever get a piece of land to call your own and their damn sure won't be any place to "learn PC" while farming ISK LOL

Oh, and to add. You want threads to stop from us, quit poking us. Every 3 minutes there is a new hate DNS thread in some part of the forums. Couldn't even read the CPM candidates threads with all the hate there. This is just amazing to me.