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Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 822	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:42:00 - [1] - Quote So.. what if CPM1 consists of all Blue Donut people? Don't you think that would be harmful to the game? well.. I have a feeling that since said azure pastry controls a large majority of the most active and ... vocal DUST players, that it won't be hard to set up a system in which, if it comes to a vote, they will have the majority. Seems fishy to me.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12991	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote To my knowledge there are only two candidates from DNS running. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2264	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:45:00 - [3] - Quote Bear in mind, the blue donut may be the most vocal, but they are a very very small number. It's important that you reach out to as many people as possible and convince them to vote (regardless of who they vote for), so that a larger portion of the community is represented. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10051	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:47:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: To my knowledge there are only two candidates from DNS running. Syveven Reed and Zatara Rought are the only two I know of Luk Manag, the glorious individual who made me what I am today! LvL 10 Forum Warrior you scrubs!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7565	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:51:00 - [5] - Quote Well considering how the CPM has no actual power in terms of development, no it wouldn't be harmful for the game. Two votes on the CPM won't mean anything, as it would still require votes from other CPM members as well. The only way for the a CPM member to do something significantly harmful to the game is if CCP allowed them to, in which case the blame would rest on CCP's shoulders. Most of the active & vocal players? Would you like to elaborate with something factual? Or can I dismiss this as propaganda? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13233	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:52:00 - [6] - Quote I just feel in my belly that CPM1 is going to do far more harm than good. This game is still way too young to throw it to the wolves via "public" voting, when there are CLEARLY systems in place via the playerbase to influence the votes as they see fit. It just has bad juju written all over it. My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10051	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:56:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Well considering how the CPM has no actual power in terms of development, no it wouldn't be harmful for the game. Two votes on the CPM won't mean anything, as it would still require votes from other CPM members as well. The only way for the a CPM member to do something significantly harmful to the game is if CCP allowed them to, in which case the blame would rest on CCP's shoulders. Most of the active & vocal players? Would you like to elaborate with something factual? GTFO with your propaganda. Thats actually very debatable, while correct that they had no direct development power or authority their job was to communicate the approximate community wide thoughts and suggestions..... and yet for the most part the greater powers as they could be called are very dismissive of many community wide suggestions. While I can appreciate that these representatives stand out from their compatriots...... a community will have certain reservations against any group put into power, or raised up in some way, as they might perceive it. More so if a large proportion of those all happen to be connected by alliance....... DO we remember the out rage surrounding the CRONOS brigade? Issue being the field is not very wide and contestants are not as varied as we might hope. Luk Manag, the glorious individual who made me what I am today! LvL 10 Forum Warrior you scrubs!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12991	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:56:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: To my knowledge there are only two candidates from DNS running. Syveven Reed and Zatara Rought are the only two I know of I would say that Syeven Reed has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Zatara has a chance but it probably depends on just how blinded by DNS hate people are. Also, I'd like to ask, OP - why do you think that having a candidate from DNS on the CPM would be a terrible thing? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10051	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:00:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: To my knowledge there are only two candidates from DNS running. Syveven Reed and Zatara Rought are the only two I know of I would say that Syeven Reed has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Zatara has a chance but it probably depends on just how blinded by DNS hate people are. Also, I'd like to ask, OP - why do you think that having a candidate from DNS on the CPM would be a terrible thing? Its actually a very positive thing. Every ground that has come to and perhaps you could say "won the endgame" would need a place to represent that particular community, and aid in the development and expansion of that end game. But equally so a candidate needs to be elected based on their qualifications and community contributions rather than where they come from. I find Zatara an interesting applicant, still haven't made up my mind yet. Luk Manag, the glorious individual who made me what I am today! LvL 10 Forum Warrior you scrubs!
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 88	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:03:00 - [10] - Quote They may be exploiting the game, but it's only because CCP refused to put a fix in motion several months ago. Sure, I want some honest homers in the CPM for sanity's sake, but I'd also like to see people that understand how to put a **** mechanic through the ringer and report it. We all know who the assholes are and the naught chances they have to win a seat. The guy from the Hamburger train.

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7567	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:07:00 - [11] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: They may be exploiting the game, but it's only because CCP refused to put a fix in motion several months ago. Sure, I want some honest homers in the CPM for sanity's sake, but I'd also like to see people that understand how to put a **** mechanic through the ringer and report it. We all know who the assholes are and the naught chances they have to win a seat. I understand the mechanics behind Planetary Conquest are not that great, but please refrain from using terms such as exploitation. That would imply that they've violated a rule/regulation specifically set forth by CCP, and needs DEV moderation (ie, banning). Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 823	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:13:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: To my knowledge there are only two candidates from DNS running. Syveven Reed and Zatara Rought are the only two I know of I would say that Syeven Reed has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Zatara has a chance but it probably depends on just how blinded by DNS hate people are. Also, I'd like to ask, OP - why do you think that having a candidate from DNS on the CPM would be a terrible thing? Did I say it would be a terrible thing? I just asked people if they thought it would be harmful. I'm more concerned about a large group like that's ability to sway such an important part of the direction DUST goes. Not saying any of the candidates are crooked, but it is certainly not outside the realm of possibility for a CPM to take NDA intel and share it with close corp mates, or at the very least, using said intel to sway decisions made in PC, Market manipulation (when it becomes viable) etc. so I'd like honest people in there. but just like in a presidential election, that is probably asking too much. At any rate, I don't mind if Zatara gets in, since I've known him for a while from the PFBHz days, and he seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders. Personally, I feel all aspects of the game should be covered. We need someone with up-to-date PC experience, as well as someone who doesn't hold any districts, but has fought in PC, to look objectively at the formers ideas. We need someone who despirately wants PvE, and a crafting system. We need someone who wants more vehicles, and someone who wants fewer vehicles. we need an all out slayer, and a logi guy who can't pull above a 1.0 KDR. We need balance in the CPM, and the way the public image of DNS is going is that they are mostly greedy PC carebears who are constantly looking out for numero uno. I know not every single member of DNS is like that, but truthfully, in order to hold a PC district right now, it's almost assured you're just interested in personal gain. Get most of the best players in the game (or at least, best slayers), and scare off anyone from even attempting to take a district, since it's pretty much a waste of ISK to attempt to do so. Then blue up with anyone who is a possible threat. sounds just like what happened in EVE with the CFC. and that turned out just great, didn't it? I'm not new to this game. I've been playing since the first round of beta, and quite frankly, I am rather distraught with the way this game has gone south. Such insignificant changes to the broader gameplay (no changes of scenery, no more cover, balances/nerfs that lead to massive imbalances, etc.) All I can say is, I hope CPM1 helps CCP to see that this game is in serious trouble (if they can't see that themselves) and that the only way to dig it out is key changes, and to balance using a scale, not a hammer.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2453	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:51:00 - [13] - Quote dust players voting is just a bad idea. Most people running for cpm1 are terrible and shouldn't even be allowed to the play the game. I dont care what corp/alliances players come from as long as they do a good job for the game and community. Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 794	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:56:00 - [14] - Quote if i knew what it entailed id most likely run but depending on what ccp shows at fanfest tomorrow with dust im done and my accounts going to sit for the next ten years and ill see what ccp has to show then. the previous one hasnt gotten anything done at all which is very unfortunate for you all. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10062	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:04:00 - [15] - Quote I want more vehicles....well just Amarr vehicles...so I also want less vehicles down with Minmatar crap. I shall claim two spots in the CPM, worth two votes and be twice as corrupt as anyone else! Luk Manag, the glorious individual who made me what I am today! LvL 10 Forum Warrior you scrubs!
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3766	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:20:00 - [16] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bear in mind, the blue donut may be the most vocal, but they are a very very small number. Then how are we a donut?
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 79	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:20:00 - [17] - Quote The OP is implicitly telling you not to vote for any CPM candidates that have anything to do with DNS. FEAR! ANGER!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7572	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:26:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Then how are we a donut? Hmm.. Heaven's Lost Property Fatal Absolution Ahrrendee Mercenaries TeamPlayers Escrow Removal And Acquisition The Rainbow Effect Ancient Exiles Nyain San G0DS AM0NG MEN Die Valkyrja Dem Durtty Boyz Capital Acquisition LLC Dirt Nap Squad Yeah we definitely are are a very, very, small number Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10067	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:45:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Then how are we a donut? Hmm.. Heaven's Lost Property Fatal Absolution Ahrrendee Mercenaries TeamPlayers Escrow Removal And Acquisition The Rainbow Effect Ancient Exiles Nyain San G0DS AM0NG MEN Die Valkyrja Dem Durtty Boyz Capital Acquisition LLC Dirt Nap Squad Yeah we definitely are are a very, very, small number Well you see the mouth of AE goes right up next to Kains....... And then FA gets right up on in there followed by Nyain and TP....... you all form one lovely artistic circle. Luk Manag, the glorious individual who made me what I am today! LvL 10 Forum Warrior you scrubs!
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 282	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:45:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Well considering how the CPM has no actual power in terms of development, no it wouldn't be harmful for the game. Two votes on the CPM won't mean anything, as it would still require votes from other CPM members as well. The only way for the a CPM member to do something significantly harmful to the game is if CCP allowed them to, in which case the blame would rest on CCP's shoulders. Most of the active & vocal players? Would you like to elaborate with something factual? Or can I dismiss this as propaganda? Mathematics DNS has 1982 players in its alliance Dust has 5,000 players look around the forums and start counting how many posts are by DNS MCRMI Recruiting

Princess Abi-Hime Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 1348	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:47:00 - [21] - Quote If that were to happen the blame would rest completely in everyone outside DNS's hands. The Metalhead Mercenary
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 282	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:49:00 - [22] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Bear in mind, the blue donut may be the most vocal, but they are a very very small number. Then how are we a donut? MMMMM Donuts EDIT: on left go to district ownership... where it shows DNS having 98.37% of Molden Heath MCRMI Recruiting
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 267	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:49:00 - [23] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Atiim wrote: Well considering how the CPM has no actual power in terms of development, no it wouldn't be harmful for the game. Two votes on the CPM won't mean anything, as it would still require votes from other CPM members as well. The only way for the a CPM member to do something significantly harmful to the game is if CCP allowed them to, in which case the blame would rest on CCP's shoulders. Most of the active & vocal players? Would you like to elaborate with something factual? Or can I dismiss this as propaganda? Mathematics DNS has 1982 players in its alliance Dust has 5,000 players look around the forums and start counting how many posts are by DNS Uhh, those are EVE players too. Also, just because DUST has 5000 active players doesn't mean they have 5000 players all together. Also, also, not all 1500 or so DNS dust guys are active. Director of G0DS Tanker, Logi, Heavy, and Scout... at your service!
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 282	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:52:00 - [24] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Enji Elric wrote: Atiim wrote: Well considering how the CPM has no actual power in terms of development, no it wouldn't be harmful for the game. Two votes on the CPM won't mean anything, as it would still require votes from other CPM members as well. The only way for the a CPM member to do something significantly harmful to the game is if CCP allowed them to, in which case the blame would rest on CCP's shoulders. Most of the active & vocal players? Would you like to elaborate with something factual? Or can I dismiss this as propaganda? Mathematics DNS has 1982 players in its alliance Dust has 5,000 players look around the forums and start counting how many posts are by DNS Uhh, those are EVE players too. Also, just because DUST has 5000 active players doesn't mean they have 5000 players all together. Also, also, not all 1500 or so DNS dust guys are active. I can agree only a little bit with you dude because I understand that AE CA and NS are more prevelant but yes the largest alliance with the most people would by rationality equal the larger voice and yes I understand your point of dust not having 5000 altogether but the numbers show that dust has on average only 5k users currently as i edit this post there are 4,052 online MCRMI Recruiting
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7572	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:53:00 - [25] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Mathematics DNS has 1982 players in its alliance Dust has 5,000 players look around the forums and start counting how many posts are by DNS Great. Now subtract that 1,982 players by the amount of players who are actual DUST 514 Players, and then by those who are actually active. With that logic, just about every corp in the game is vocal. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 282	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:56:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Enji Elric wrote: Mathematics DNS has 1982 players in its alliance Dust has 5,000 players look around the forums and start counting how many posts are by DNS Great. Now subtract that 1,982 players by the amount of players who are actual DUST 514 Players, and then by those who are actually active. With that logic, just about every corp in the game is vocal. not neccessarily my corp is down to only 25 including our pilots because inactive players got the axe MCRMI Recruiting
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 2096	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:57:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Then how are we a donut? Hmm.. Heaven's Lost Property Fatal Absolution Ahrrendee Mercenaries TeamPlayers Escrow Removal And Acquisition The Rainbow Effect Ancient Exiles Nyain San G0DS AM0NG MEN Die Valkyrja Dem Durtty Boyz Capital Acquisition LLC Dirt Nap Squad Yeah we definitely are are a very, very, small number Himiko was just pointing out Soraya's contradiction which was that he called us a doughnut then said that were very, very few must I go into detail? ISK Donuts are delicious Q_Q Moar
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death Final Resolution. 3182	Posted - 2014.05.02 01:06:00 - [28] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Atiim wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Then how are we a donut? Hmm.. Heaven's Lost Property Fatal Absolution Ahrrendee Mercenaries TeamPlayers Escrow Removal And Acquisition The Rainbow Effect Ancient Exiles Nyain San G0DS AM0NG MEN Die Valkyrja Dem Durtty Boyz Capital Acquisition LLC Dirt Nap Squad Yeah we definitely are are a very, very, small number Himiko was just pointing out Soraya's contradiction which was that he called us a doughnut then said that were very, very few must I go into detail? You are a doughnut because you blued up MH. Must I go into detail? For the record, I actually don't care, but quit the spin. NEEDZ MOAR FULL RESPEC (y'happy, Dildo?) ak.0 // 4 LYFE
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 853	Posted - 2014.05.02 01:46:00 - [29] - Quote As long as you vote, it doesn't matter. If you vote then you can complain all you want. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1477	Posted - 2014.05.02 02:54:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: RYN0CER0S wrote: They may be exploiting the game, but it's only because CCP refused to put a fix in motion several months ago. Sure, I want some honest homers in the CPM for sanity's sake, but I'd also like to see people that understand how to put a **** mechanic through the ringer and report it. We all know who the assholes are and the naught chances they have to win a seat. I understand the mechanics behind Planetary Conquest are not that great, but please refrain from using terms such as exploitation. That would imply that they've violated a rule/regulation specifically set forth by CCP, and needs DEV moderation (ie, banning). honestly exploit means to use. Its one of those words like discrimination that always sounds bad. Crush them



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