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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:20:00 -
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Been playing the game regularly since December and I currently run 2 types of suits...
-Minmitar logi (80% of the time) -Caldari Scout (20% of time)
When I run the logi, I usually have either my six kin or core focused repper out and I use it to support my team-mates while they do the killing. I make reviving downed team-mates my priority and I'll only break out my assault rifle when I'm playing alone or when I'm forced to due to an enemy flanking our position and engaging me directly. The end result of this style of play is that I mostly end up having a KDR under 1 and I score a shitload of WPs.
When I run the Scout, I basically just focus on killing enemies and end up having a KDR above 1 and I score an average amount of WPs.
So my lifetime KDR is under 1, yet I feel like I contribute more to the team as a logi then as a scout.
Question to the community... How do you perceive logis who focus on supporting their team (especially heavies) as opposed to being slayer logis? Should logis strive to be slayers? Kill, kill, kill, then rep whoever is left standing after the fire fight. Or should logis keep the repper on the big boys and make sure they can mow down the opposition without worrying about their armor?
How do you kill that which has no life?
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:27:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:Been playing the game regularly since December and I currently run 2 types of suits...
-Minmitar logi (80% of the time) -Caldari Scout (20% of time)
When I run the logi, I usually have either my six kin or core focused repper out and I use it to support my team-mates while they do the killing. I make reviving downed team-mates my priority and I'll only break out my assault rifle when I'm playing alone or when I'm forced to due to an enemy flanking our position and engaging me directly. The end result of this style of play is that I mostly end up having a KDR under 1 and I score a shitload of WPs.
When I run the Scout, I basically just focus on killing enemies and end up having a KDR above 1 and I score an average amount of WPs.
So my lifetime KDR is under 1, yet I feel like I contribute more to the team as a logi then as a scout.
Question to the community... How do you perceive logis who focus on supporting their team (especially heavies) as opposed to being slayer logis? Should logis strive to be slayers? Kill, kill, kill, then rep whoever is left standing after the fire fight. Or should logis keep the repper on the big boys and make sure they can mow down the opposition without worrying about their armor?
If your K/D is above one you are doing well as a logi. Try to use cover a bit more.
If your heavy is chasing after people in a way that is getting you killed, tell him to ease up a bit. If you can't talk to him, leave him and find a better heavy. Heavys and logis have to be aware of each other and work together. Run back to back to keep an eye one each other, use a mass driver to help disperse a group before your heavy moves in, or a long range weapon to pick a couple off before you get in range. Its not all about the rep all the time. Sometimes a gun is just better.
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
304
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:30:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:Been playing the game regularly since December and I currently run 2 types of suits...
-Minmitar logi (80% of the time) -Caldari Scout (20% of time)
When I run the logi, I usually have either my six kin or core focused repper out and I use it to support my team-mates while they do the killing. I make reviving downed team-mates my priority and I'll only break out my assault rifle when I'm playing alone or when I'm forced to due to an enemy flanking our position and engaging me directly. The end result of this style of play is that I mostly end up having a KDR under 1 and I score a shitload of WPs.
When I run the Scout, I basically just focus on killing enemies and end up having a KDR above 1 and I score an average amount of WPs.
So my lifetime KDR is under 1, yet I feel like I contribute more to the team as a logi then as a scout.
Question to the community... How do you perceive logis who focus on supporting their team (especially heavies) as opposed to being slayer logis? Should logis strive to be slayers? Kill, kill, kill, then rep whoever is left standing after the fire fight. Or should logis keep the repper on the big boys and make sure they can mow down the opposition without worrying about their armor?
KDR is irrelevant when it comes to logis. Some of the best logis I know have less than 1 KDRs. A better measurement for logis is WP to death ratio. You should play your logi in whatever style suits you best.
That said, I very much consider myself a support logi. I'd never fire a round if I could avoid it, but somehow I've ended up with a 1.39 or so KDR. So it's not impossible to be a rep 1st logi and still go positive.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
931
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:34:00 -
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mostly the community does not value non killing players, though they may try to make you think otherwise .
I personally love playing the way you described, my weapon is my last resort, I use equipment almost exclusively.
That said, I manage a 1.5 KDR so you can interpret that number how you like
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
36
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:36:00 -
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When I started playing Dust, I started off as a Logi (this was before racial suits so there was only one logi) and my KD/R was horrible. But thats how I liked it. I was a support logi. Reptool, Injector, Nanohives. My weapon was only there if my Heavy died or I was separated.
Now that there are different races, the role has changed, however when I run my MinLogi, I stick to the first role I did: Support, with reptool injector and hives. And my KD/R on my MinLogi is still horrible.
For people saying that having a KD/R above 1 is 'doing well' as a logi, they obviously have been Logis since the different suits that came out and have been and have been running Kill Logis. I do not believe that these logis are true logis. A logi that does well can earn 2k+ WP in a 50 man ambush.
KD/R does not and should not matter to LogiBros, only WPs.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4348
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:39:00 -
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The only logi that can be considered as acceptable to get a KD of 1+ in a match is the amarr logi, it's the assault oriented logi so I believe that it's acceptable to do slightly more killing with an amarr logi.
If you are a true logi, than my hats off to ya, respect.
If you're one of those murder logis who just use logis as beefed up assaults......i blame you for causing us logis to lose our armour rep bonus.....
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Spike Slania
Horizons' Edge
60
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:40:00 -
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If I want a logi I don't look at k/d. Half the time I tell them to run cheap stuff if they want to try to follow my heavy since it's a suicidal 7k isk Sentinel. 1.7 Logi's where one of the most important things for corps to have, now it's becoming a warzone between Sentinels trying to keep Logis alive from the new Scout mechanic. Because what will the enemy target first, the weaker guy who is healing the stronger guy or try their luck on the stronger suit? I lost several logis to scouts trying to isolate me.
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Ander Thedas
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
588
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:40:00 -
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You're doing a service to your team and to the game in general. Logis are out of fashion right now, and as a result most people feel the lack of support. I can't tell you how often I had to call in a LAV to drive myself back to the home point supply depot to restock on ammo because no one wanted to bring out a nanohive on their fit. I wouldn't worry about KDR. Unless you're trying to get into the top 10 corps out there no one is looking at it besides you. I was a Logi from 1.3 - 1.7 and specced out in 1.8 due to me feeling like my role had been marginalized. But I've always missed it. Keep at it. If you've found your role don't let the stats change your mind. You're doing well, soldier.
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
277
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:41:00 -
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I prefer the logi to focus on a support role... Cause you know that's what they're there for. Slayer logis are just a joke.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
635
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:42:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:When I started playing Dust, I started off as a Logi (this was before racial suits so there was only one logi) and my KD/R was horrible. But thats how I liked it. I was a support logi. Reptool, Injector, Nanohives. My weapon was only there if my Heavy died or I was separated.
Now that there are different races, the role has changed, however when I run my MinLogi, I stick to the first role I did: Support, with reptool injector and hives. And my KD/R on my MinLogi is still horrible.
For people saying that having a KD/R above 1 is 'doing well' as a logi, they obviously have been Logis since the different suits that came out and have been and have been running Kill Logis. I do not believe that these logis are true logis. A logi that does well can earn 2k+ WP in a 50 man ambush.
KD/R does not and should not matter to LogiBros, only WPs.
Beta logi with a 1.3 K/D who regularly scores 2k+ plus a fifty man ambush. Played with only a mass driver until the ScR came out (still the only two infantry weapons ive specced.) I run needle, rep, and link/hive on every one of my logi suits.
Maybe you should take some advice from my first post as well...
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:45:00 -
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I have a feeling that a lot of people will tell you that WPs are more important than KDs for logis. Those people are what you call:
*ahem*
War Point Whores
Logis need gun game too. Sometimes support means killing.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3557
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:51:00 -
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If you are thinking longterm you have to be able to kill as a logi. There's room for perhaps 1 super support logi in a 16v16 PC battle. The best logis on the great PC teams have KDRs of 2+ most of the time.
KDR not mattering for a logi is one of the dumbest things that has ever been uttered on these forums. And that talk is what has gimped the logi suits and nerfed the crap out of all the equipment.
Trust me, if you envision PC in your future you simple HAVE to be able to kill. It really comes down to knowing when to have your rep tool out and when to have your gun out. With all the scouts that are running around you'd be better suited having your gun out watching your heavy's six. If he needs reps turn around and get your rep tool out.
I run around as a heavy and I'll take a dude with his gun out over a rep tool any day. I love the reps, but I'll ask for them or expect them after an engagement.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3557
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:53:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Been playing the game regularly since December and I currently run 2 types of suits...
-Minmitar logi (80% of the time) -Caldari Scout (20% of time)
When I run the logi, I usually have either my six kin or core focused repper out and I use it to support my team-mates while they do the killing. I make reviving downed team-mates my priority and I'll only break out my assault rifle when I'm playing alone or when I'm forced to due to an enemy flanking our position and engaging me directly. The end result of this style of play is that I mostly end up having a KDR under 1 and I score a shitload of WPs.
When I run the Scout, I basically just focus on killing enemies and end up having a KDR above 1 and I score an average amount of WPs.
So my lifetime KDR is under 1, yet I feel like I contribute more to the team as a logi then as a scout.
Question to the community... How do you perceive logis who focus on supporting their team (especially heavies) as opposed to being slayer logis? Should logis strive to be slayers? Kill, kill, kill, then rep whoever is left standing after the fire fight. Or should logis keep the repper on the big boys and make sure they can mow down the opposition without worrying about their armor?
If your K/D is above one you are doing well as a logi. Try to use cover a bit more. If your heavy is chasing after people in a way that is getting you killed, tell him to ease up a bit. If you can't talk to him, leave him and find a better heavy. Heavys and logis have to be aware of each other and work together. Run back to back to keep an eye one each other, use a mass driver to help disperse a group before your heavy moves in, or a long range weapon to pick a couple off before you get in range. Its not all about the rep all the time. Sometimes a gun is just better. Solid advice here
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
38
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:54:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:When I started playing Dust, I started off as a Logi (this was before racial suits so there was only one logi) and my KD/R was horrible. But thats how I liked it. I was a support logi. Reptool, Injector, Nanohives. My weapon was only there if my Heavy died or I was separated.
Now that there are different races, the role has changed, however when I run my MinLogi, I stick to the first role I did: Support, with reptool injector and hives. And my KD/R on my MinLogi is still horrible.
For people saying that having a KD/R above 1 is 'doing well' as a logi, they obviously have been Logis since the different suits that came out and have been and have been running Kill Logis. I do not believe that these logis are true logis. A logi that does well can earn 2k+ WP in a 50 man ambush.
KD/R does not and should not matter to LogiBros, only WPs.
Beta logi with a 1.3 K/D who regularly scores 2k+ plus a fifty man ambush. Played with only a mass driver until the ScR came out (still the only two infantry weapons ive specced.) I run needle, rep, and link/hive on every one of my logi suits. Maybe you should take some advice from my first post as well...
So just because you have a positive KD/R doesn't mean I should take your advice. Also back then the Mass Driver was a bit OP.
As I said before, KD/R isn't important to support logis. We are (as someone said before) War Point Whores. So why should I bother killing?
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Cheydinhal Guard
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:57:00 -
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When I started logi-ing back in like 1.4 (?) as CalLogi my KD/R was terrible. I always prioritized killing before supporting, even with my terribad gungame. I got better over time, as does everyone. I still prefer to be in the frontlines with my gun out prepared to rep or rez than behind a heavy for the entirety of the match, but I support a lot more than before. Now my KD/R is 2.03. I hope this doen't make me a slayer logi
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
741
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:57:00 -
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KDR matters a lot less for support logis but if you can you need to stay alive. If you are one of the 1st to die then you can not help anyone else.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
638
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:00:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:When I started playing Dust, I started off as a Logi (this was before racial suits so there was only one logi) and my KD/R was horrible. But thats how I liked it. I was a support logi. Reptool, Injector, Nanohives. My weapon was only there if my Heavy died or I was separated.
Now that there are different races, the role has changed, however when I run my MinLogi, I stick to the first role I did: Support, with reptool injector and hives. And my KD/R on my MinLogi is still horrible.
For people saying that having a KD/R above 1 is 'doing well' as a logi, they obviously have been Logis since the different suits that came out and have been and have been running Kill Logis. I do not believe that these logis are true logis. A logi that does well can earn 2k+ WP in a 50 man ambush.
KD/R does not and should not matter to LogiBros, only WPs.
Beta logi with a 1.3 K/D who regularly scores 2k+ plus a fifty man ambush. Played with only a mass driver until the ScR came out (still the only two infantry weapons ive specced.) I run needle, rep, and link/hive on every one of my logi suits. Maybe you should take some advice from my first post as well... So just because you have a positive KD/R doesn't mean I should take your advice. Also back then the Mass Driver was a bit OP. As I said before, KD/R isn't important to support logis. We are (as someone said before) War Point Whores. So why should I bother killing? The MD has been through more buffs and nerfs than any weapon in this game so dont give me the "it was OP" line. Even at its best, it was circumstancial.
OP asked for advice, I gave it. Even got a couple likes out of it. If you don't want to take it that's your choice.
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES Proficiency V.
177
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:04:00 -
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Not a logi... (Commando), but the logi(s) I do have for me always stay behind me as best they can while I'm using my AscR to mow down everyone else. The only time I tell them to pull out their weapons (I'm usually the Squad Leader) is when the area is clear of anything that doesn't pose a huge threat. I also have my logis to the hacking while I cover them, since if I hacked they'd be really vulnerable.
Less Than three logis.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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Glantix Karmic-Snow
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:14:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:The only logi that can be considered as acceptable to get a KD of 1+ in a match is the amarr logi, it's the assault oriented logi so I believe that it's acceptable to do slightly more killing with an amarr logi.
If you are a true logi, than my hats off to ya, respect.
If you're one of those murder logis who just use logis as beefed up assaults......i blame you for causing us logis to lose our armour rep bonus.....
With an excess amount of module slots, only 3 equipment, and a Racial bonus to deployable equipment, I feel that the CaLogi is equally as deserving of being considered more of an Assault Logi. Especially ones like me who only run Nanohives and nothing else.
I don't care if you say I'm doing it wrong or that I am not a LogiBro. My job is clear, make sure my team is stocked up on ammo. This involves making sure my hives are in a good position, and always keeping one on me in case a squad member needs ammo but can't get to one my hives quickly. Aside from this though, I have nothing else to do but kill, or at least grant support fire.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:20:00 -
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I tend to run near a 5 kdr as a scout/gallogi since open beta. I do have a much lower kdr for PC though because i tend to be repper/scanners/uplinks and die doing it. I tend to use my cal scout as repper because its just better than a minmatar logi. Never had a instance in pubs or pc that I can say my heavy would have lived if i had the minmatar logi bonus.
logi and assaults really need a bit more love from ccp. lets hope we get some from fanfest
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akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
59
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:24:00 -
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I run ADV Minnie logi with one of the 2 proto gun variants
got a 1.0 kdr but I focus on repping people.. needling the ones that have fallen and giving ammo.
I do pull the gun when its right to.. guy flanking us that I see, fire suppress while heavies are reloading etc.
kd/r means nothing to me, this is not COD or BO2 or MW#. I'm not 15 and could care less.
I look to max out my WP for SP capping. i'll let the younger folks or the people who care get the high kdr.
because without decent logi support and preferably some squads.. you are going to loose the match.
and someday loosing the match will matter more then how many kills you got while loosing the game. When PC 2.? or FW 2.? or whatever other mode that is actually persistent and matters then the KD/R point will become moot.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2759
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:33:00 -
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Really it's not so much that your KDR shouldn't matter as a logi, it's more so that you shouldn't die a lot.
My KDR is around 1 and slowly creeping up, but it's slow going because I average maybe 4-5 kills at most a battle when really playing logi. Having a KDR below 1 as a logi is fine IMO, if you are not dying a lot.
Example: If you consistently pull a lot of WP but go 1/2 every time, your KDR is crap at 0.5 but you are overall a benefit to the team assuming they perform well with your support. If instead you are going 8/16, you are dying entirely too much and probably a net negative.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Amarr victor!
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
641
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:36:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Really it's not so much that your KDR shouldn't matter as a logi, it's more so that you shouldn't die a lot.
My KDR is around 1 and slowly creeping up, but it's slow going because I average maybe 4-5 kills at most a battle when really playing logi. Having a KDR below 1 as a logi is fine IMO, if you are not dying a lot.
Example: If you consistently pull a lot of WP but go 1/2 every time, your KDR is crap at 0.5 but you are overall a benefit to the team assuming they perform well with your support. If instead you are going 8/16, you are dying entirely too much and probably a net negative. Thank you for saying what I didn't put into words well. My K/D maybe above one, but it's usually because I didn't die, not because I did a lot of killing.
Edited for grammatical errors
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2760
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:38:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Really it's not so much that your KDR shouldn't matter as a logi, it's more so that you shouldn't die a lot.
My KDR is around 1 and slowly creeping up, but it's slow going because I average maybe 4-5 kills at most a battle when really playing logi. Having a KDR below 1 as a logi is fine IMO, if you are not dying a lot.
Example: If you consistently pull a lot of WP but go 1/2 every time, your KDR is crap at 0.5 but you are overall a benefit to the team assuming they perform well with your support. If instead you are going 8/16, you are dying entirely too much and probably a net negative. Thank you for saying what I didn't put into words well. My K/D maybe above one, but it's usually because I didn't die, not because I did a lot of killing. Edited for grammatical errors
You're welcome. Though I might put my LR against your MD in the who's had the biggest nerf/buff cycle!
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Amarr victor!
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1356
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:40:00 -
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If you can be a good support logi - always there with the right equipment to support your squad when they need it - and get a good KDR then that is fantastic. I've seen players that can do this, and they are worth their weight in gold. I'm certainly not at that level myself though.
However, If, as a logi, you let your running & gunning get in the way of your logi-work then you are a poor logi.
My advice would be to concentrate on being the best support logi you can when running in a squad, and work on getting kills when the support isn't required.
The other half of KDR, the deaths, is something you should be looking to keep to an absolute minimum anyway. A dead logi isn't supporting their team at all. This is my big weakness, tbh. I leeroy in with my rep tool, injector or hives when I really shouldn't sometimes, purely through being over-eager to help my squad mates. It ends up being counterproductive.
When I see a player on the leaderboard with 2 kills, 1 death and 2000 WP then I think "that's a good logi".
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
641
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:45:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:P14GU3 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Really it's not so much that your KDR shouldn't matter as a logi, it's more so that you shouldn't die a lot.
My KDR is around 1 and slowly creeping up, but it's slow going because I average maybe 4-5 kills at most a battle when really playing logi. Having a KDR below 1 as a logi is fine IMO, if you are not dying a lot.
Example: If you consistently pull a lot of WP but go 1/2 every time, your KDR is crap at 0.5 but you are overall a benefit to the team assuming they perform well with your support. If instead you are going 8/16, you are dying entirely too much and probably a net negative. Thank you for saying what I didn't put into words well. My K/D maybe above one, but it's usually because I didn't die, not because I did a lot of killing. Edited for grammatical errors You're welcome. Though I might put my LR against your MD in the who's had the biggest nerf/buff cycle! Lol. Can we just call it a tie?
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4353
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:45:00 -
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Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:The only logi that can be considered as acceptable to get a KD of 1+ in a match is the amarr logi, it's the assault oriented logi so I believe that it's acceptable to do slightly more killing with an amarr logi.
If you are a true logi, than my hats off to ya, respect.
If you're one of those murder logis who just use logis as beefed up assaults......i blame you for causing us logis to lose our armour rep bonus..... With an excess amount of module slots, only 3 equipment, and a Racial bonus to deployable equipment, I feel that the CaLogi is equally as deserving of being considered more of an Assault Logi. Especially ones like me who only run Nanohives and nothing else. I don't care if you say I'm doing it wrong or that I am not a LogiBro. My job is clear, make sure my team is stocked up on ammo. This involves making sure my hives are in a good position, and always keeping one on me in case a squad member needs ammo but can't get to one my hives quickly. Aside from this though, I have nothing else to do but kill, or at least grant support fire. Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Haha the callogi is in a tough situation, it was the go to murder logi for the longest time (from 1.0 - 1.7) I believe that the callogi is more of a skirmisher type logi, it's sort of the counterpart to the amarr logi.
Amarr logi is like the most assault oriented, slower, but has the sidearm slot, wereas callogi is the second most assault oriented, high mobility, very high regen.
If it came down to holding down the point, id pick the amarr logi, but for aggressive attacking on multiple points, callogi is probably he best for that.
If you truly logi, than again, my hats off to you, if not, then......
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Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:01:00 -
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KDR is meaningless to a logi- just make sure you save more clones than you lose from dying.
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Glantix Karmic-Snow
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:10:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:The only logi that can be considered as acceptable to get a KD of 1+ in a match is the amarr logi, it's the assault oriented logi so I believe that it's acceptable to do slightly more killing with an amarr logi.
If you are a true logi, than my hats off to ya, respect.
If you're one of those murder logis who just use logis as beefed up assaults......i blame you for causing us logis to lose our armour rep bonus..... With an excess amount of module slots, only 3 equipment, and a Racial bonus to deployable equipment, I feel that the CaLogi is equally as deserving of being considered more of an Assault Logi. Especially ones like me who only run Nanohives and nothing else. I don't care if you say I'm doing it wrong or that I am not a LogiBro. My job is clear, make sure my team is stocked up on ammo. This involves making sure my hives are in a good position, and always keeping one on me in case a squad member needs ammo but can't get to one my hives quickly. Aside from this though, I have nothing else to do but kill, or at least grant support fire. Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Haha the callogi is in a tough situation, it was the go to murder logi for the longest time (from 1.0 - 1.7) I believe that the callogi is more of a skirmisher type logi, it's sort of the counterpart to the amarr logi. Amarr logi is like the most assault oriented, slower, but has the sidearm slot, wereas callogi is the second most assault oriented, high mobility, very high regen. If it came down to holding down the point, id pick the amarr logi, but for aggressive attacking on multiple points, callogi is probably he best for that. If you truly logi, than again, my hats off to you, if not, then......
Couldn't have said it better myself.
As for if I'm a true Logi, I can at least say I do not use damage mods. I don't use the rep tool of injector, so I am not a LogiBro, but I do support by dropping nanohives where needed(A whole 3 hives, yay for next-to-no skill points). I also find myself using my AV nades a lot, and I have to say, with nanohives even the basic ones can severely damage or kill a tank. But most of the time I am trying to get kills with my Rail Rifle......
Does this mean I should not be considered a true Logi?
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:15:00 -
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Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:The only logi that can be considered as acceptable to get a KD of 1+ in a match is the amarr logi, it's the assault oriented logi so I believe that it's acceptable to do slightly more killing with an amarr logi.
If you are a true logi, than my hats off to ya, respect.
If you're one of those murder logis who just use logis as beefed up assaults......i blame you for causing us logis to lose our armour rep bonus..... With an excess amount of module slots, only 3 equipment, and a Racial bonus to deployable equipment, I feel that the CaLogi is equally as deserving of being considered more of an Assault Logi. Especially ones like me who only run Nanohives and nothing else. I don't care if you say I'm doing it wrong or that I am not a LogiBro. My job is clear, make sure my team is stocked up on ammo. This involves making sure my hives are in a good position, and always keeping one on me in case a squad member needs ammo but can't get to one my hives quickly. Aside from this though, I have nothing else to do but kill, or at least grant support fire. Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Haha the callogi is in a tough situation, it was the go to murder logi for the longest time (from 1.0 - 1.7) I believe that the callogi is more of a skirmisher type logi, it's sort of the counterpart to the amarr logi. Amarr logi is like the most assault oriented, slower, but has the sidearm slot, wereas callogi is the second most assault oriented, high mobility, very high regen. If it came down to holding down the point, id pick the amarr logi, but for aggressive attacking on multiple points, callogi is probably he best for that. If you truly logi, than again, my hats off to you, if not, then...... Couldn't have said it better myself. As for if I'm a true Logi, I can at least say I do not use damage mods. I don't use the rep tool of injector, so I am not a LogiBro, but I do support by dropping nanohives where needed(A whole 3 hives, yay for next-to-no skill points). I also find myself using my AV nades a lot, and I have to say, with nanohives even the basic ones can severely damage or kill a tank. But most of the time I am trying to get kills with my Rail Rifle...... Does this mean I should not be considered a true Logi? Sincerely, Glantix / Snow No. And I say this purely because you said you do not have good hives. If you have put more points into your weapon than your support gear, i cannot call you a truelogi. Also, you have 3 slots and get a bonus to needle as well. You really should strive to get a proto needle. At least Adv with some healy hives.
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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