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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1304
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:35:00 -
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You make mad WP's and ISK
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
782
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:38:00 -
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WP and ISK won't matter while AV still feels ineffective.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4525
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:38:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge.
Damn you Saga II!!!!!
AV sucks, buff plz.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:39:00 -
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If you have been playing this game for a few months and don't have any form of av, your a fail at this game.
Stop liking my posts! Your killing me!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!!
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AngelflamesP
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:40:00 -
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Here is my reason. I skilled into Adv Swarms and i have proto forge gun with prof. 3 .... first off you have to shoot all and reload about 2 times with swarms just to kill a madrugar because its Total Hp is 5200 :P my next reason... my forge gun was a beauty and still is but tanks move too fast.. the moment i let my first shot off the tank is already on the other side of the map either 1 out of my range or behind cover and that goes for swarms too the moment they get hit they drive backwards or fowards so fast and there is so many collidable objects in a map that your swarms hit them instead of the target because they track after it.... honestly i would run AV all the time I used to be AV and Logi but i find it difficult now adays but you are right it does give mad WP and ISk just hard to do when you have to use all ur ammo to kill a tank :3 :P :) |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1304
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:43:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz.
.... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:46:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies.
He killed me in my missile Gunny :(
Over the course of a whole game, but still.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1306
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:49:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies. He killed me in my missile Gunny :( Over the course of a whole game, but still.
from that match
killboard
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
424
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:49:00 -
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i picked up a forge gun. its not so bad, if im not shooting vehicles im one hitting kids off a roof.. not as good as my scr or lr but im sure the rage is 10x as hard when they get ohko'd
my roof campers all use av grenades, too. it wont really kill anything but it makes your squaded tanks think their tanks pro when you show up and start throwing avs in the fight.
my scouts got res too. like putting those on the backs of shiny toys or onto lav driver seats.
plus you know, double dmg mod sicas. im probably the worst tanker in dust so its funny when things die.
Primus sucks.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4527
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:49:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies. Caldari Heavy I take it?
Otherwise, I don't believe you.
Actually, even then, I don't believe you. Are you using the officer gear or something?
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
623
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:50:00 -
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Cal-sent + Ishukone Assault Forge Gun = WP who're
The forums are more reliable than my spais :(
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4527
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:50:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies. He killed me in my missile Gunny :( Over the course of a whole game, but still. from that match +1 For Templar Suit.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
3023
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:58:00 -
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I recently got proto swarms from adv, prof 2, ammo 3 and reload speed 2. I tend to get a LOT of wp from vehicle damage but hardly any kills. People like kills - they look good and are the only thing that people see of others on the EOM screen.
Often these days I don't have much time to play, so I jump in ambushes solo when I can and knowing there will probably be some vehicles in play, I'll wait until I see the RDV coming in on the map, then deploy in my 70k isk AV scout suit. It has zero tank, 2 complex damage mods, proto swarms, proto kincat and proto range amp with REs, adv nanohive and AV nades with the adv breach scrambler pistol for infantry trying to chase me down.
Even the worst pilots are difficult to kill solo. I think I should be able to kill poorly skilled mlt tanks/dropships solo with that sort of set up. Standard tanks and dropships I don't stand a chance against solo. That's not a huge deal for me but when I have at most one other teammate helping me out, we should be able to take down one of those SOBs together - nope, still barely get close. Then we get mown down by infantry who have been alerted to our presence by giant white lines in the sky pointing us out.
Balance gripes aside, I am glad to still be getting the occasional +75wp for vehicle damage but I reckon that the main reason people don't do it is that you don't get kills with AV. Even if you manage one or two lucky vehicle kills, you'd get more going anti-infantry, even if your team still ends up losing because there's a tank and ADS mopping the battleground with your bodies stuck to the front of their turrets.
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BIind Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
141
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:00:00 -
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I speced proto swarm with proficiency 3. I can barley blow up an lav with them. I find I almost always die when I try to use the swarms. I just re's. With any luck the tank stops to get a few kills and I can get some re's on the back. If it sees me first then It's tank surfing time.
I posted a thread last week of all the math for a triple reped maddy vs a pro swarms with 3 complex damage mods proficiency 5 and rapid reload 5. I came to the conclusion that it would blow up on the 12th volley. Someone posted and said that the shield would of reped twice in the encounter and that it would actually take 15 volleys. Mind you this is with the sitting stationary taking no evasive action what so ever. It would actually blow up from being unmanned before it would blow from a single swarmer.
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:06:00 -
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I am using ADV swarms with great success. Never try to solo a vehicle with infantry. If you want to solo vehicles use vehicles.
This will help the game
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mordiby
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
94
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:11:00 -
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Yes complain about tanks, don't run AV. People that run AV, complain about tanks. Oh the agony of tri reps.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7392
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:19:00 -
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Which is negated because you have to run PRO Weapons and Modules to be worth a damn.
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1364
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:22:00 -
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3 remotes, 2 lai dai and swarms. sod rep tanks and dps math its about that instant gank
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
624
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Which is negated because you have to run PRO Weapons and Modules to be worth a damn.
While true, having a bpo lav makes it substantially more profitable.
Tanks nearly always shoot the lavs first.
So then by the time they're done, I've usually got them under half health.
Blasters though. ... annoying.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
3024
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:38:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:3 remotes, 2 lai dai and swarms. sod rep tanks and dps math its about that instant gank Just that any tanker worth his salt will never let you get/stay close enough to get 3 REs on him and acceleration is so damn fast you'll never catch him once he starts off.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7395
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:41:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies. Caldari Heavy I take it? Otherwise, I don't believe you. Actually, even then, I don't believe you. Are you using the officer gear or something? It's not possible with a Breach or Normal FG, and I've done math proving that you have to be mentally ******** to die to the Assault FG.
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
120
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:49:00 -
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I don't run av because I don't need it, I can just cloak and wait for the tanks to leave the area. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1310
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:You make mad WP's and ISK Cant even kill an LAV with a forge. Damn you Saga II!!!!! AV sucks, buff plz. .... really? I'm solo killing rep tanked maddies. Caldari Heavy I take it? Otherwise, I don't believe you. Actually, even then, I don't believe you. Are you using the officer gear or something? It's not possible with a Breach or Normal FG, and I've done math proving that you have to be mentally ******** to die to the Assault FG.
AFG is best forge gun
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:53:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:If you have been playing this game for a few months and don't have any form of av, your a fail at this game. My alt has like 8 or 9 million SP and it only has standard AV grenades (which I don't even use) because I wanted standard locus grenades.
I just know how to avoid tanks; so far I've yet to be killed by a blaster tank
Funny enough, I've been killed by rail tanks at like 20 meters a handful amount of times.
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BIind Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
142
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:54:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:I don't run av because I don't need it, I can just cloak and wait for the tanks to leave the area.
You should try the re's.. Nothing is more satisfying than blowing up an op tank with the push of a button. I'm actually thinking of taking of the hives on my swarm fit for the re's.. but I think I could just run packed av's; throw the nades then pop the re's. Then I could still keep my regular light weapon to defend myself.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:55:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote: AFG is best forge gun
Yeah if your fighting a tanker who's reaction time is about 26x slower than the average human.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1364
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:56:00 -
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no one runs AV because a MLT railtank is cheaper and more effective.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1310
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote: AFG is best forge gun
Yeah if your fighting a tanker who's reaction time is about 26x slower than the average human.
lol, guess you can add
Duna Takihiro Spkr And a few other tankers
Because iv killed each of them with my afg
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2242
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:58:00 -
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I prefer my Proto Swarms. Just enough damage or DPS or whatever the qualifier is to gain the 75 WP reward. Reload, let the guy's shields regenerate, launch another clip +75 WP. I had proto hives with me and spent the whole match doing this. Never killed the tank once, ended up with five thousand and a few hundred War Points. 2 kills, from LAVs, 3 deaths, because Large Blasters have longer range than swarms.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7397
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:59:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Atiim wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote: AFG is best forge gun
Yeah if your fighting a tanker who's reaction time is about 26x slower than the average human. lol, guess you can add Duna Takihiro Spkr And a few other tankers Because iv killed each of them with my afg I've already put them on the special list a while ago.
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