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Orin the Freak
The Solecism of Limitation
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:32:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:Dude... all you people talking about 10k kills for full SP are just... wow. Special.
First off, if you pay attention and comprehend the posts, the cap is 500,000 WP. You will effectively be getting 150wp per kill, which will add up to your 500,000 WP for the cap... Then, after the cap, you'll still be getting 150wp per kill, but up to the maximum of 1000 (1500 with a booster). Only if CCP is making this event work like no other event ever. The 500k SP is *bonus* SP, as stated, which means it's aquired through the bonus SP from the kills, which is only 50. The 2x weekly cap will be the only thing effected by the rest of the 100WP (50 x 2) from the kill. So CCP either botched it's description, made this event work like no other it's done before, or you're the one who's special. Only two of those have any real chance of being the right answer.
Pretty sure I'm the one who's special -_-
After plenty of re-reading and debate amongst friends, I'm with you. Either CCP derp'd the explanation, or they are doing something completely different than they've ever done, which is silly to change at this point. no way am I grinding 10k kills for a measly 500k SP (of which I'll probably get 100,000 anyway, since I plan on getting 2000 kills for the maximum cash payout) |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
567
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:17:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:deezy dabest wrote:But seriously WHAT THE **** were you thinking making the cap 10k kills. You really would have been better off just saying there is no cap to let people feel like they were getting some leg up by grinding. Why do people feel like they have to hit every cap? Just play the game. Enjoy it. The cap prevents exploiters from abusing the offer too much. Relax. Chill. The point of caps is for them to be hit. Why tell me the maximum I'm allowed to earn if it's impossible for me to earn it? It's like a government passing a law that says factory owners can't force their employees to work more than 26 hours a day. It restricts nothing. This cap caps nothing. Also, you're completely wrong: In this case, it actually greatly encourages exploiters and rewards them MORE than in previous events- for example, in the Commando event, if I got 750 kills as a commando legitimately, and someone boosted their way to 4000 commando kills, we both received the same reward of 750k SP. In this event, no legitimate player can ever hope to cap, so exploiters can actually get much larger rewards than any legitimate player.
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Trained Skills
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2262
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:12:00 -
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Artemis Kaiba wrote:50 extra SP per kill to a max of 500000. So we are expected to make 10000 kills in one week ?
*5000 kills; apparently the full kill WP count
We already got through this a few times. You're supposed to make a kill every 2 minutes starting at downtime. Straight. No time for breaks, school / work / university, sleep, eating or other silly things. You actually don't even have time for daily downtimes.
So well, even if it actually is 10.000 kills it doesn't matter, because even 5000 kills is physically impossible. Unless you do nothing else but exploiting of course. Maybe CCP wants to find exploiters? Cap out that event and you get banned?
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Scrub Zero
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:45:00 -
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First: Thanks CCP for the event.
Secondly: what a BUNCH of crying little babies...
You clowns have NO problem buying a booster but can't shell out a couple bucks to support a FREE GAME (that you play).
I could care less about the SP. I have everything I need.
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
6911
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:48:00 -
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So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do.
CCP Logibro // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
261
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:55:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Yeah boosters are going to run rampant, because it's literally impossible to cap any other way. I will NOT be activating an Omega booster for this. The last triple SP event was grindy enough with all the glaring vehicle/AV imbalances and how easy it is to farm kills safely in your indestructable tank. I'm sorry. I'll be watching Fanfest, but I will not be ground up by tanks looking for easy kills while our AV is utterly ineffective at curtailing their use. No, I don't mean SP boosting items. I mean 2-3 person teams going onto Oceania and doing the kill-revive-kill-revive cycle ad nauseum to rake in hundreds of kills per "match".
just like they do with the tank damage points.
seen a friendly rail tank fighting a red one all match long. they had over 5,000 wp at the end of the match, no deaths. They were just farming each other.
This needs to be addressed.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2776
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:05:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do.
One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things:
1) Killing OF infantry
2) Killing BY infantry.
Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
985
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:06:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. Thanks, this is an improvement, though for future events it should really be at least 500SP for the bonus per kill if you're putting the cap that high. Very few players would seriously attempt 2,000 kills in a week. It's not really possible for people working 9-5 and with any kind of social life/family. But as I say, it's better than it was. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
6914
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:20:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2777
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:22:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of
KHAAAANNNNN!!!!
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3528
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:24:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of KHAAAANNNNN!!!!
TAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2400
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of KHAAAANNNNN!!!! TAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Nerdier than thou
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3139
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:42:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of KHAAAANNNNN!!!!
Looks like my 73k Soma is coming out of the shed xD
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2400
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:48:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do. One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry. Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match. Of KHAAAANNNNN!!!! Looks like my 73k Soma is coming out of the shed xD Nah. The SP rewards are too small to matter, so I'm not going to bother with the event- I'm just going to spam double damage modded Sicas. There's going to be so much prey.
Nerdier than thou
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Zombie Supreme
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
134
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:04:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote: One last clarification: What is meant by infantry kills? It can mean one of two things: 1) Killing OF infantry 2) Killing BY infantry.
Choice 1 includes tanks killing infantry, choice #2 does not. Please let us know which is correct.... if it's #1, I'm out for the week, I have zero interest in being farmed by the 6 proto blaster tanks that will be in every single match.
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Here is a question I am surprised no one asked. Lets pretend I am a tanker. I buy a origin pack a put an Origin Suit on, I then go kill things with my tank. Do I get the standard SP per kill 250 or the higher sp rate per kill (400)? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2432
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:16:00 -
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well at 50sp per kill this event would of resulted in less sp gain then trying to earn 500ksp off of post cap sp gain.
at 250 sp I still won't hit that mark ( 2000 is crazy even for my sp grinding ass ), but it will result in a large chunk of extra sp which i'm happy with. |
Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:27:00 -
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So before it was 1 kill per 1 minute for 7 straight days.
Now it is 1 kill per 5 minutes for 7 straight days.
CCP do you even math?
First off, only those like duna or milkman who have an unhealthy obsession with this game will come close to capping.
Secondly, this type of massive totals just helps to further alienate your noobs. Seriously, they have no chance of getting even decent rewards out of this.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
217
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:30:00 -
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well since everyone wants to call down tanks I'll call down my trollav bomb truck
Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Galxis Dunzaf
Arrogance. Caps and Mercs
17
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:31:00 -
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Is the bonus 500000 sp awarded at the end of the event? |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
945
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:44:00 -
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I'm guessing the cap won't be reset tomorrow right? Need to hold off playing till the double SP kicks in.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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Galxis Dunzaf
Arrogance. Caps and Mercs
18
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:07:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I'm guessing the cap won't be reset tomorrow right? Need to hold off playing till the double SP kicks in. The double xp already kicked in
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
945
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:07:00 -
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Galxis Dunzaf wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I'm guessing the cap won't be reset tomorrow right? Need to hold off playing till the double SP kicks in. The double xp already kicked in
Ahh, cheers dude.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
376
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:39:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:So a small change
We've change the flat SP bonus per kill amount from 50 to 250 SP, and 100 to 400. This does not change the standard 2x SP earning for base earnings or either the weekly cap or the bonus cap.
So, just to clarify for everyone:
2x SP earned from all actions, weekly cap is doubled. This is affected by boosters exactly as a normal double SP event.
Additionally, for every kill you will earn an additional 250 SP and 5,000 ISK, or 400 SP and 7,500ISK if you are using either of the Origin Suits. This is capped at 500,000 SP and 10mil ISK. This additional SP and ISK is not affected by boosters.
All of the event pages and descriptions will be updated to match this. If anything is still unclear, please post your issue and I'll see what I can do.
Just curious was this suppose to be the original numbers?
Either way thanks for the change and the update. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1514
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:17:00 -
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Are you seriously going to be ignoring logistics again. I am really getting pissed off about this ccp. I will be hunting you all down at fanfest and giving you a headache about this.
BEWARE i will be hiding on the pub crawl cloaked in a veil of alcoholic humour then BAM metaphorical shotgun will be drawn
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Ralden Caster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:30:00 -
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I have an idea to pitch:
Instead of making 'Origin' suits have these bonuses, why not make any STANDARD suit have the bonus instead? It would still be symbolic because everyone has their beginnings as a standard runner, and a lot of people would be made happy.
Minmatar Dropship.
Uprising 1.7.
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Waruiko DUST
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
155
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:55:00 -
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300 kills a day... I can do it but only because i'm A) home sick and B) already have 42 mill SP
If blood and sweat don't teach them perhaps time will
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
391
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:12:00 -
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So....... What the total SP that can be gained from non-boosted.. and what is the sp gained from boosted.
and we have double cap and a additional extra SP that has nothing to do with the double cap?
Or it's easier to get the double cap because of the additional SP per kill?
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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JONAHBENHUR
home of the forgotten
29
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Posted - 2014.05.01 04:22:00 -
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how is it different to spend aur to get bonusskills with boosters as opposed to using an aur suit ? if ya dont want to pay to support a game. you can not complain when the game doesnt go your way
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
376
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Posted - 2014.05.01 06:28:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:So....... What the total SP that can be gained from non-boosted.. and what is the sp gained from boosted.
and we have double cap and a additional extra SP that has nothing to do with the double cap?
Or it's easier to get the double cap because of the additional SP per kill?
The bonus is in addition to the doubled cap making it a little better event than it seems like at first glance now that the SP per kill has been fixed. |
Mex-0
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:26:00 -
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Well, looks like CCP finally gave me a reason to use my 'Origin' Logistics M-1.
Caldari Scout + Combat Rifle + Cloak = Bandit. Looking for a good corp to fund proto people
Weekend Warrior
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