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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:38:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Yeah boosters are going to run rampant, because it's literally impossible to cap any other way. I will NOT be activating an Omega booster for this. The last triple SP event was grindy enough with all the glaring vehicle/AV imbalances and how easy it is to farm kills safely in your indestructable tank. I'm sorry. I'll be watching Fanfest, but I will not be ground up by tanks looking for easy kills while our AV is utterly ineffective at curtailing their use.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2257
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:44:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Yeah boosters are going to run rampant, because it's literally impossible to cap any other way. I will NOT be activating an Omega booster for this. The last triple SP event was grindy enough with all the glaring vehicle/AV imbalances and how easy it is to farm kills safely in your indestructable tank. I'm sorry. I'll be watching Fanfest, but I will not be ground up by tanks looking for easy kills while our AV is utterly ineffective at curtailing their use. No, I don't mean SP boosting items. I mean 2-3 person teams going onto Oceania and doing the kill-revive-kill-revive cycle ad nauseum to rake in hundreds of kills per "match".
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
378
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:51:00 -
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So... Omega boosters will work for this event then? Just making sure. I could use another million SP.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
564
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:02:00 -
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Yo LogiBro... can we get some clarification? 10,000 kills (in a week) for an extra 500K SP?!
Impossible, as someone else said, is most definitely the only word to describe this goal.
For some people 70+ kph is easy enough ;) but not for most of the playerbase. I won't have the time to play all day everyday and even with hitting those high kph rates I would come nowhere near to achieving the full bonus for this event :/
Even the 2,000 kills for the 10mil ISK will only be doable if you spend an awful lot of time on DUST this week.
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
460
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:06:00 -
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CCP Troll wrote:Dust Community wrote:We don't like grind CCP WTF You noobs HTFU and run Spambush! But Please Mr. CCP 10k kills in a week? Not even Milkman or Duna will be able to do that!
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emtbraincase
Falconpunch Hatesurfers
121
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:23:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:
If others are fine with it good for them,me personly i wont support this slow progression method to pay to win items. This just proves to me the free 2 play model is unworkable and heavily flawed without strong sponsorship.
Steady your hand, Amarrian. These AURUM users can still die like the rest of us, and if you're still as good with that SCR as you were when you blapped my face with them back when the LP store just came and out everyone was obsessed with FW, then you simply have to kill them before they get any kills, and as such get no bonus SP. Just to reiterate, you need to earn kills to get this 500k bonus SP! The doubled SP cap can be earned on any action, but the extra 500k is ONLY on kills, that's how I read it in Logibro's post and unless I am corrected that's how I'll continue to see it. Which means if we all gang-up on these 'Origin' suits and kill 'em, then steal their kills when we're on the same team, nothing for them. Hardly pay-to-win. edit: and no offense buddy but you're talking about pay-to-win when you're sitting in the join-to-win DUST alliance. edit2: sorry couldn't resist the jab. Still missing the point. Iv always had the rule if ARU gear has an advanatage over std gear i will stop playing dust a lot of old vet communty had this redline too. At some point you have to draw a line. This is mine because its only a small step to go "due to the sucess of the orgin suits they shall keep their event advantage, which in this case is faster isk and d Sp gain" And so on as i said once i clamed down this will be fine for most but not for me. Dust514 has given me little reason to keep playing. It has now given me a reason to stop playing Be sure to let the pod door hit your ass on the way out. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12843
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:55:00 -
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I don't see a problem with incentivising AUR suits as well as normal stuff. There's a normal event too, guys.
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
657
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:58:00 -
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CCP shouldn't have revealed the cap. Pretty sure 10k kills was meant as a hard cap last resort to prevent a users from making 100000000000 sp.
Basically they don't intend anyone to hit the cap, think of it as just 50 sp extra per every kill, no cap. The cap isn't there to be grinded, it's just there as a fail safe. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2732
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:12:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:CCP shouldn't have revealed the cap. Pretty sure 10k kills was meant as a hard cap last resort to prevent a users from making 100000000000 sp.
Basically they don't intend anyone to hit the cap, think of it as just 50 sp extra per every kill, no cap. The cap isn't there to be grinded, it's just there as a fail safe.
Don't underestimate the greed and dedication of people boosting on the oceania server.
Hey, how about a side event: For every booster you catch (with a picture of the leaderboard), you get 1000 bonus SP!
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8108
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:15:00 -
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When you say "Infantry kills," do you mean killing infantry or killing as infantry? So vehicle users would be left out?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2246
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:29:00 -
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After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week.
According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP.
So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort.
I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
916
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:38:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week. According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP. So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort. I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working. Either that or CCP will give us connected battlefields with strike fighters capable of carpet-bombing. It'll be easy to buzz a battlefield area where 1000s of mercs are fighting and carpet-bomb the area. Mmmmm.....carpet bombs.....
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
374
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:40:00 -
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- please make it so the kill bonus doesn't apply to vehicle --> infantry kills -- because this will surely scare off new players, and possibly some vets too :(
- please don't do these grindy events any more -- coz this sort of event doesn't excite me any more. the last one i didn't even cap out on, hard as I tried.
- please don't do events that encourage proto usage -- because I won't even bother for the first few days until the top / rich players have capped out with their proto stuff
The events where a specific type of suit or weapon were required were interesting, even though they still encouraged proto. Please come up with a way to encourage something else. Or have a linear bonus for lower tiers killing higher tiers.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2266
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:52:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week. According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP. So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort. I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working. That would be so juicy. I really, really hope that's the fanfest announcement, but I doubt it.
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
33
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:53:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:iliel wrote:I don't understand how people got to 10k kills. The SP side of the event involves a double weekly cap - - just like any other double or triple SP event.
As for the isk, without the pack, one needs to get 2k kills to cap 10mil isk. With origin suits, one needs about 1,350 kills.
I think confusion arises from the following questions:
1) Is the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill part of the 500k weekly cap? 2) If the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill is not part of the 500k weekly cap, then what is the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill?
A clear and precise answer would be appreciated. No, you're misunderstanding. It's double the weekly cap (around 400k) in normal SP (gained from WP and time in match), plus another 500k in event bonus SP (like the Commando/Sidearm event) for infantry kills, at a rate of 50 per kill, or 100 for origin suits. 500,000 / 50 = 10,000 kills to reach the event bonus SP cap.
Oh, well then . . . I guess I won't be getting anywhere near the 500k sp. That or one of the other posters here is right: PvE on April 30. And, if that's so, then 10k kills will be a blast! |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1159
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:33:00 -
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Will vehicle kills count for the bonus SP?
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lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
197
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:47:00 -
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iliel wrote:Awry Barux wrote:iliel wrote:I don't understand how people got to 10k kills. The SP side of the event involves a double weekly cap - - just like any other double or triple SP event.
As for the isk, without the pack, one needs to get 2k kills to cap 10mil isk. With origin suits, one needs about 1,350 kills.
I think confusion arises from the following questions:
1) Is the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill part of the 500k weekly cap? 2) If the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill is not part of the 500k weekly cap, then what is the cap for the bonus 50 sp per kill?
A clear and precise answer would be appreciated. No, you're misunderstanding. It's double the weekly cap (around 400k) in normal SP (gained from WP and time in match), plus another 500k in event bonus SP (like the Commando/Sidearm event) for infantry kills, at a rate of 50 per kill, or 100 for origin suits. 500,000 / 50 = 10,000 kills to reach the event bonus SP cap. Oh, well then . . . I guess I won't be getting anywhere near the 500k sp. That or one of the other posters here is right: PvE on April 30. And, if that's so, then 10k kills will be a blast!
I have extremely high doubts that PvE is going to be released for fanfest, I have more faith in....the entire Beatles band of those who are dead along with Mozart rising up from the grave, to give me breakfast in bed, while not only doing that but somehow convincing no less then ten super models to wash and wax my car, then ontop of that the president of America and Russia kissing on public tv and admiting they are long lost lovers, all in the same day and on my birthday. |
gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:56:00 -
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i understood it as stated
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1313
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:02:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:
- Earn bonus 500,000 SP and extra ISK per character! Every infantry kill will give you an extra 50 SP and an additional 5,000
Just to clarify this part. Before we cap out on the double weekly bonus SP, we will get the usual SP, which is: 50/60/75 WP multiplied by the end of match WP-to-SP conversion(affecting WP from kills only - no hacking, logistuff WP) plus this additional 50 SP (100 SP in origin suit), right? And, once the weekly cap is reached (1 WP= 1 SP), we will only be getting as much as 50/60/75 SP + 50 SP (100 SP) counting towards the infantry kill cap, correct? No. It effectively functions as a normal double SP event (so for all actions that give SP) plus a extra bonus per kill, with the extra bonus per kill having a separate cap. But you are correct for once you hit the cap. Thw bonus sp, what's the cap? As our regular cap is 500k
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RockNrolla Ayatollah
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
26
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Posted - 2014.04.28 20:47:00 -
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I am excited!!! more free stuff!! And I am ok with dropping two or five bucks for aurum to get the extra bonus because I understand that goes to pay the developers that work on improving a game we all play for FREE!!!
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
732
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:45:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Iv said my peace. Its not the event itself its the very idea of giving a stright up avantatge to a suit i didnt like it with bossters but decided it was a side effect of the event. This is a concues point.
But disagree with me this is not russia if u think im overreacting fine, simple means the communty is happy to pay for event advanatages etc. Its been a slow creep and this is were a get off. Best of +º Luck with ccp with fanfest maybe i will see somthing i like but i doubt it.
Not sure why people are arguing with steadyhand about this. He has always been against anything that allows people to use RL money to gain an advantage.
Maybe he accepted boosters and aurum but it doesn't mean he has to accept everything. He has already explained that this is his personal redline and not some stand against CCP or Capitalism so what is the point with going on about it.
Personally this is not one of my redlines, though CCP skirted it with BPO's and how they were removed, and I guess most players do have some form of a redline as well.
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
1972
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Posted - 2014.04.28 22:01:00 -
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Seems like someone didn't really do the math on this one.
50 SP per kill? Could we at least make it 500 SP? Getting 10k kills in less than a week is borderline impossible. To do that, you'd have to get 1 kill / minute, 24 hours straight for 7 days non-stop.
Now, 500 SP per kill would mean 1,000 kills which is definitely doable. Please CCP, be a little bit more rational here...
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
437
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Posted - 2014.04.28 22:14:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok... so we need 10000 Kills to get the full bonus SP? Or did I get something wrong?
I think it's 5000 (+50sp or 100sp a kill) unless you use an origin suit then its about 3300 or ( +100sp or 150sp) a kill. Just don't quote me on this, as you never know with CCP
Either way, it's to long a grind and shan't bother with this.
It will be ok if you're a tanker otherwise just play like you normally do and be happy that you'll scratch the surface if this.
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives
145
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Posted - 2014.04.28 22:41:00 -
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When i think i can go back to my life: BOOM! EVENT!!! I love these things, but sadly i won't be around all week and no way i'm gonna cap the 10.000 kills. I'll still fight to get that weekly SP cap with a booster, but that will be the event for me.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2249
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:28:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week. According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP. So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort. I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working. That would be so juicy. I really, really hope that's the fanfest announcement, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too. It's probably more like we actually get our full WP to that cap... heck: Even if it isn't intended to be like this, knowing CCPs scripts this is probably how it will turn out in the end. Either that or it will decrease our SP.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2248
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:29:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2249
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:34:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok... so we need 10000 Kills to get the full bonus SP? Or did I get something wrong? I think it's 5000 (+50sp or 100sp a kill) unless you use an origin suit then its about 3300 or ( +100sp or 150sp) a kill. Just don't quote me on this, as you never know with CCP Either way, it's to long a grind and shan't bother with this. It will be ok if you're a tanker otherwise just play like you normally do and be happy that you'll scratch the surface if this.
Long grind is good, try impossible.
5.000 kills -> 714 kills / day -> 30 kills / hour -> 1 kill every 2 minutes. And we're talking 1 kill every 2 minutes straight. No downtime, no break, no eating, no sleeping, no working.
It's basically impossible to cap that event.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2288
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Posted - 2014.04.29 00:12:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Heavenly Daughter wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok... so we need 10000 Kills to get the full bonus SP? Or did I get something wrong? I think it's 5000 (+50sp or 100sp a kill) unless you use an origin suit then its about 3300 or ( +100sp or 150sp) a kill. Just don't quote me on this, as you never know with CCP Either way, it's to long a grind and shan't bother with this. It will be ok if you're a tanker otherwise just play like you normally do and be happy that you'll scratch the surface if this. Long grind is good, try impossible. 5.000 kills -> 714 kills / day -> 30 kills / hour -> 1 kill every 2 minutes. And we're talking 1 kill every 2 minutes straight through 168 hours. No downtime, no break, no eating, no sleeping, no working. It's basically impossible to cap that event. Not even a tanker is able to accomplish this. You're assuming someone uses Origin suits for the entirety of those kills. Quoting myself from a GD topic about this event:
Awry Barux wrote:Justicar Karnellia wrote:Yeah agreed, 10,000 kills is a bit too much in a week... I mean.. I think i have like 50,000 kills tops in my lifetime and that's over a year of Dust... capping almost every single week... getting a fifth of that in just a week? I don't see how that's possible... Even with aurum suits you'd be looking at 5000 kills... and god knows how many aurum suits you'd lose....
Hmm... well, let's try to figure it out. 40 suits per pack, 20 Assault C-1 and 20 Logistics M-1. Assuming you're decently good at the game and cherry-pick your matches pretty hard (i.e. leaving whenever you see an organized enemy squad), let's say you can put up a consistent 3.0 K/D, since you're in STD gear using whatever shitfit CCP came up with. 5000 kills / 3.0 K/D = 1,667 deaths (rounded up). 1667 deaths / 40 suits/pack = 42 packs (rounded up). 42 packs * $4.99 per pack = $209.58 On a scale from 1 to nope... noooooooope. Not doing that. Bad event is bad. Transparently milking us for all we're worth. If you want SP, you're infinitely better off spending your money on passive/active boosters.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9867
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:00:00 -
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Ohhhhh this had such potential...but yet again we are fed a generic SP event with no explanation as to why we are gaining bonus SP or what this Operation even means?
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4030
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:18:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:A very biased event in favour of those who use the Aurum Suits ,
No more biased than boosters themselves are.
No.
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